Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[Katyusha]

I'm starting with Ausuka, ircher, and taly as conftown. Simyk was here from reading along but she kind of dwindled into probtown but I think that was just rl impacting her

Janitor slot is almost always scum. Failing that it's Iconeum and we never lose going from Janitor to Iconeum as a result since we have enough town slots and we know that there's a roleblocker or scum cop in play. I know I'm town and A50's lolclaim prevents that slot from being scum - I agreed with simyk it's never in Mutant/Taly/Eddie regardless of reads for the rb slot.

Rest can be sorted out when I read for associations

[Katyusha]

^prevents that slot from being scum rb*

lmaoooooooooooooooooooo i dont know a50 that well but he would probably do that as scum

[Ausuka]

Wait people actually think Dave is scum RB? I thought that was a meme.

[Katyusha]

look if you asked me to explain the inner machinations of simyk's mind i would die before i had the chance to utter a single word

that slot's never rb

[Eddie Cane]

Nah, don't vote Janitor yet, if we wait a week the game will be mechanically solved.

lol

[Katyusha]

So yall mind if i soviet hammer

[Eddie Cane]

mutant, any opinion on puppies?

no dont vote lel

[Katyusha]

:kappa:

[Ausuka]

Dave is 10th on the draft... the claim means nothing, he's just, not RB to me. full stop.

[Ausuka]

So yall mind if i soviet hammer

I wanted hammer but like if it's a soviet hammer I could make an exception?

[Katyusha]

Dave is 10th on the draft... the claim means nothing, he's just, not RB to me. full stop.

actually from your pov this is the case since there's literally no possible team without duplicates or without you in it

for davesaz to be scum one of ico/me/janitor/i fuckign guess taly HAS to be the scum rb and i hope it's abundantly obvious me/davesaz are never scum together so always lynch in ico/janitor first

So yall mind if i soviet hammer

I wanted hammer but like if it's a soviet hammer I could make an exception?

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas

i'll go make it but wait for mutant then

[Taly]

I wouldn't hammer just yet.

I'm going through hell right now IRL, and it's affected my motivation in this game, since it has slowed and I've been wrong twice this game.

The gist of my thoughts:

Ircher

is confirmed Neighborizer and conftown to me, this read has only gotten stronger and became more solidified with his content and with gamesolving.
Also

Ircher

, this is in respond to your ISO of me 2305

1)

If anything, the point of my draft number is null; I LITERALLY stuck to a number prior to ANY role PM being sent.

2)

I occasionally unvote when I don't entirely know my reads and I want to observe, I often unvote in order to acquire a reaction that leads to me acquiring a read.

3)

I get that I can seem too heated in my words; but I don't really get angry.

4)

I felt the original reasons for

Math

in D1, suspecting

Janitor

, made little sense because it relied entirely on setup without much other evidence of in-game discussion beyond what I disagreed with at the time. With

Math

formulating a case and dying. I felt the

Janitor-scum

push/case/lynch was much more justified and I still feel that way now.

5)

If there's anything you don't know what to make of, then ask.

I'm less sure about

dave

at this point, but I think it's town-motivated for

mutant

to look at all angles here and not jump onto a lynch.

I still don't see the huge reason for

SIMYK

RB or even

SIMYK

as scum, and even then, I'd argue with no results -

Iconeum

is a much more likely person that's higher in the draft to be scum. SIMYK has been very active with responding to the players as well as doing what they can to promote town cohesion. I feel like with the

Math

and

Lalendra

flips, the case and idea against

Janitor

is much more valid and solidified, ESPECIALLY after

Janitor

providing very little aid to disucssion in this dayphase.

By interactions and associatives with my scumreads,

{Iconeum, Janitor}

, I really don't see

Ausuka

or

Eddie

as a potential third scum - alongside their gameplay, and with

Lovebird

flipping town and 6 being a popular number in this setup, I highly doubt

Ausuka

and

Eddie

are scum, and they're the few solid townreads I have.

[Katyusha]

m i n d m e l d

[Katyusha]

like thats basically where my head was following the game

[Eddie Cane]

eddie came

[Katyusha]

woah there buddy

[Katyusha]

but yeah i dont really want to put in effort until we get a flip unless someone has a specific question for me

close-reading 100 or so pages when i know that there's one scum in janitor/ico and it's like janitor 70% of the time makes trifling between which of eddie/davesaz/ico/janitor/mutant seems pointless until i have that flip for certain

[Ircher]

So assume I'm scum from my nr 1 position. Go look into the draft who is the next possible scum to choose something. Because if I'm scum cop, scum would also NEED to take the doc/RB slot because otherwise I can't claim being RB'd. That means scum effectively can't use the RB because that could compromise the claim. 2 PR's used for NO scum advantage, only town denial.

Wrong. They can roleblock whoever they like; it will be unlikely that they get caught in a lie.

[Ircher]

And so, there is RB scum (assuming town isn't blocking me) in Ircher or Saske.

How many times must it be said that

I CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT NEIGHBORIZER UNLESS YOU THINK BOTH TALY AND AUSUKA ARE SCUM THAT ARE LYING ABOUT BEING NEIGHBORIZED?

[Ircher]

Someone hammer Janitor. I'm done with this game.

agree with this sentiment

*agree*

[Katyusha]

if you're scum you absolutely can and should lie about things like that lol

plus with a jk there's plausible deniability that you were actually rb'd by a doc/rb slot, at worst you bait out the only threatening slot besides jk/tracker to your team. plus if the rolecop investigated you that makes the 1v1 vs the doc claim 100% easier to win

[Katyusha]

would anyone be shocked if ico+janitor were both scum

[Taly]

I'd rather

mutant

finish his analysis so we have more content to refer back to going into D4, but my read on

Janitor

is strong and solid, and the discussion so far hasn't wavered it.

[Ircher]

I will drop this though, from what I've looked into so far I'm pretty sure the scum team is Janitor, Saske slot and either Taly OR Ausuka. I will explain this and back up such a claim later during this day (day 3, nor irl) but if you want to discuss that instead of getting bored and complaining about the day not being over then feel free to do so :3

I'll discuss this during the night I guess when I get a chance.

@Katy
VOTE: Katy
So you think the scum team COULD be Ircher/Ausuka/Taly?

[Katyusha]

am i hallucinating