Newbie 1868 - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.05

Not_Mafia (2) -

ceejayvinoya, Marshmallow Marshall

Tarkus (1) -

ejjinami

Marshmallow Marshall (1) -

Crimson97

ceejayvinoya (1) -

bacy

Crimson97 (1) -

Not_Mafia

Not Voting (2) -

Tarkus, Rockeater

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2018-06-09 01:45:00).

[Not_Mafia]

Not_Mafia (2) -

ceejayvinoya, Marshmallow Marshall

Outrageous

The worst votes cast since the 651,972 cast for Roy Moore

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Not_Mafia (2) -

ceejayvinoya, Marshmallow Marshall

Outrageous

The worst votes cast since the 651,972 cast for Roy Moore

Then give your thoughts, for god's sake.

[Rockeater]

One day time zones and work will kill me at one of those, and I will try to find an avatar.

@rockeater did you seriously consider my 533? What's your opinion on that? Did you seriously think it could be used against bacy?

@rockeater heeeeyyyyy

Oh god, I had literally forgot that guy's existence... Rockeater, mind to give us your reads? You're kinda AFK atm.

My main three suspects are You, ceejay, his actions do get me suspicious of him, You, ejjnami post didn't get me more suspicious but gave it better reason and N_M, but I suspect him because his really short posts look wired, if he gives an actual explanation once he would probably be less suspect

[Rockeater]

And about post 626, as I said before, she was on the right on that case no matter if she was a scum or not, she could have been genuine even if she was a scum.
And she did vote you in the forth post in a row after two hours without your response, so your point there is p weak, but even if she did vote you in that post, she had enough reason to do so I don't see how you could have claimed she was mafia.

[Rockeater]

One day time zones and work will kill me at one of those, and I will try to find an avatar.

@rockeater did you seriously consider my 533? What's your opinion on that? Did you seriously think it could be used against bacy?

@rockeater heeeeyyyyy

Oh god, I had literally forgot that guy's existence... Rockeater, mind to give us your reads? You're kinda AFK atm.

My main three suspects are You, ceejay, his actions do get me suspicious of him, You, ejjnami post didn't get me more suspicious but gave it better reason and N_M, but I suspect him because his really short posts look wired, if he gives an actual explanation once he would probably be less suspect

Well, I'm not sure both mafia are here but I am almost certain at least one is

[ejjinami]

First off

4th here! @Not_Mafia, what's your plan. I mean, it gets annoying after some point. We're trying to find scums and you're just sitting there OMGUSing people.
[…]
Why are you posting filler posts? What about you start actually giving us something to work with instead of shitposting?
[…]
About N_M, I'm ready to push for a policy lynch because his play hurts town anyway. If he's scum he dies and it's great, if he's town he'll probably start posting good stuff. VOTE: Not_Mafia

im like idk the third person who has asked this but you're gonna have to explain this at some point ya know..you probably get a lot of free d1 lynch passes i get that must be nice and all but like cmon it does get to the point where it's just too much

I'm okay with a lynch in {Crimson97, bacy} today.

i could potentially be fine with policy lynching this if it doesn't get any better

{Crimson, bacy}
{ejji}
{Tarkus} - Null
{Not_Mafia, Rockeater}

VOTE: Not_Mafia
[…]
Calling all townies. Let's lynch this guy^

Are you really okay with letting him live past d2?

god... don’t make me overuse the VCA. Like, you’re really tempting me rn.

[ejjinami]

…...and wow :I

VOTE: MM
The amount of “carefulness” and “defensive responses” in his last posts was just fricking amazing. I think I can wait with tark for a bit, like, I'm slacking with the read on him anyways

[ejjinami]

I'm okay with a lynch in {Crimson97, bacy} today.

tho I don't get his defense of bacy, who was scumreading him day 1. Maybe Crimson really is town...

Why do you scumread bacy? I don't get it. I think she's the only player who really screams town to me. I think defending her is kinda NAI though (scum whiteknighting exists). But why do you have a scumread?

This feels either like shade or a meek interaction. -_- Or extreme carefulness, like in the other posts.

@rockeater did you seriously consider my 533? What's your opinion on that? Did you seriously think it could be used against bacy?

@rockeater heeeeyyyyy

Oh god, I had literally forgot that guy's existence... Rockeater, mind to give us your reads? You're kinda AFK atm.

And tbh same here.
The “You’re kinda AFK atm.” feels like an explanation for questioning rock, cuz “oh no! they could scumread me if my actions aren’t clear!!!” It makes me feel like he's anxious to do stuff cuz he is afraid of how will people react to it

Why do you scumread bacy? I don't get it. I think she's the only player who really screams town to me. I think defending her is kinda NAI though (scum whiteknighting exists). But why do you have a scumread?

that's only one of the posts but why do i keep getting a feeling you're buddying me, i dont like it

what's your read on ceejay?

Are you claiming scum, since I would be wrong by townreading you?

His actions seem townish, but I get some... fake, forced vibe from it. Null-to-townish read.

how would i by saying you're buddying me even remotely be close to 'claiming scum' and saying you're wrong about townreading me? how did you even get to that, from where? i specifically said that this is only one of the posts that i got this feeling from, i chose it because it was the most recent post of yours at the time that gave me that feeling..

Then you're saying that if I say what I think, I buddy you?

Ugh… this is defensive as hell. This whole conversation is defensive as hell.
@MM how do you feel about bacy’s “buddying” posts?

[ejjinami]

About N_M, I'm ready to push for a policy lynch because

his play hurts town anyway

. If he's scum he dies and it's great, if he's town he'll probably start posting good stuff. VOTE: Not_Mafia

i literally just said

that

, this is honestly just getting funny lol

LOL really... well lol I'm currently playing another FM game on another site, so I'm not paying super hard attention, sorry lol...

………..sorry for being a dick and all, but that really looks like he's terribly concerned about how people see him. :/

take a deep breath, get off computer/phone/idk, clear your head for 15 minutes then come back to this




..look at your reaction


it has to be at least one of you two if it's not a team

I don't see how I'm scummy on that... I mean, I am just exposing my thoughts. Apparently, exposing his thoughts is not a good thing on this forum. Very strange site meta.

………..And tbh, this feels like he’s afraid to talk back to “his confident townread”. -_-
Like, god…..
Seriously, there are limits to how much can one “care about one’s appearance”. This is just straight out scummy, he might generally "want to look good", but NOT to that extent. Just no.

[Rockeater]

Tarkus didn't write anything in 5 days or so, doesn't he needs to be replaced.

[ceejayvinoya]

@MM how do you feel about bacy’s “buddying” posts?

What what I thought MM was the one who was buddying

[ceejayvinoya]

VOTE: MarshM

[ejjinami]

and btw, I did get the feeling you were buddying bacy. Or at least that your read on her is wrong.

Why do you scumread bacy? I don't get it. I think she's the only player who really screams town to me. I think defending her is kinda NAI though (scum whiteknighting exists). But why do you have a scumread?

Like, this might be personal, but I think I'm also doing all the shit that bacy is doing. Why are you more confident bacy would be unable to fake it than I?
Yeah, bacy is active and her responses have a "scumhunting" vibe to them, but reads based on that are often bullshit when it comes to players who generally post a lot. The fact you didn't really think of considering that makes the read kinda cheap imo.
Or you can call it buddying. Like, tbh there isn’t much of a difference imo.

[ejjinami]

Tarkus didn't write anything in 5 days or so, doesn't he needs to be replaced.

yeah

@MM how do you feel about bacy’s “buddying” posts?

What what I thought MM was the one who was buddying

yeah, that's what I meant :/ Kinda used the wrong word there

[ejjinami]

and tbh, don't vote anymore or NM might lol-hammer. that should be L-2 btw

[ejjinami]

To avoid useless long posts, I won't quote 574. But I'm having a hard time reading Crimson as town... How does all the stuff you just described make him town? I don't get it 0_0

If so, ask me questions. The read on Crimson is sth I think I can explain easily, so lol.

[ejjinami]

And ffs, cee’s flip-flops aren’t scum indicative. Like, tbh I have no idea what to expect form scum!him, but I do know what to expect from town!him. And the flip-flops are one of those things I’m absolutely confident in.


Situation from the previous game: A cop was lynched and mafia killed a guy who softed VT. I was stupidly yelling at everyone that it means there IS a 2-nd PR and we can trust a 2-nd PR claim. Somehow, half of the people sheeped me. Cee was strongly opposed

This kill most probably means were in setup 1C (no additional PR). I don't think scum would be dum enough to ignore the vanilla softclaim. (there were 3 posts like that, not gonna quote them all)
[…]
There's definitely scum in HWS/Red.

Not a long time later, after a Neapolitan claim from RedFlavor.

I'm not lynching the guy who claimed PR.

You can't make me.
[…]
(hard-defending the claim later)

Btw, I didn’t bold this, it was in bold originally.

Like, look at it and you’ll see what I mean about the flip-flops. Like, read the quotes a few times if it's not clear. Trust me, my scumread on cee in the previous game couldn’t have been any stronger than it was. I was absolutely convinced he was scum because “lol, he’s too stressed to scumread the PR claim after it appeared!!!”, but lol……. -_-

I might not know his scum meta, but you can believe me when I say flip-flopping with his reads is normal for him.
I’m in the middle of reading him rn and my read on him is definitely weaker than the one on MM.
And tbh I don’t really think the “reaction test” was scum motivated.

@rockeater did you seriously consider my 533? What's your opinion on that? Did you seriously think it could be used against bacy?

@rockeater heeeeyyyyy

Ahhh wtf you must now think I'm a special kind of idiot or something to think that up and go with it.

Whatever.

well yeah i think your special kind is scum, without that last part because cmon who do you think i am

*shrugs* let's let this go for a little bit.

What do you think of Not_Mafia?

Or at least those posts are good.

I really like the fact he continued “info-hunting” when people started yelling at him. It feels like he really wanted to get some info out of the reactions and just accepted the scumreads when they appeared.

Assuming the whole “bait” idea was a “run-away” reaction after realizing pushing on bacy is a bad idea, the “info hunt” he did later looks kinda impressive.
Honestly, if that was the thing, I would expect him to be more self-preservative, self-centered or sth like that. The “openness” is giving me town vibes.
Or at least, “it was all planned” vibes. That’s p much the same thing tbh.

I’m in the middle of writing a read on him and tbh as for now I don’t think I’m scumreading him enough to pair him with MM. Like, not with the MM&Inf interactions.

I’d lynch cee only after MM and tark tbh. Most prob before bacy and rock.

And I’m definitely not lynching NM anywhere soon, because there’s no freaking way I’ll jump on a wagon that looks like THAT.

[ejjinami]

*anytime soon

[Micc]

Searching for a replacement for Tarkus.

[ejjinami]

or wait. :/ I think I'm starting to see what bacy was saying about MM&cee's interactions…
I still think I'd like tark lynched first, but lol... :/

[ceejayvinoya]

Tbh I've been leaving Marsh alone because I thought he could be pr. I'd be perfectly fine with lynching him tho if he claims VT.

[Rockeater]

Have to disagree with you ejjinami on your ceejay read, theres a diffrent between what he did in your game and this one, esspacily with bacy where he done the reatreat only after a complete backfire where all else fialed, his questions to me look more like attempt to makke what he done before like a test and his question to bacy looks more like an attempt to shift focus to Not_Mafia

[ceejayvinoya]

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm okay with a lynch in {Crimson97, bacy} today.

tho I don't get his defense of bacy, who was scumreading him day 1. Maybe Crimson really is town...

Why do you scumread bacy? I don't get it. I think she's the only player who really screams town to me. I think defending her is kinda NAI though (scum whiteknighting exists). But why do you have a scumread?

This feels either like shade or a meek interaction. -_- Or extreme carefulness, like in the other posts.

@rockeater did you seriously consider my 533? What's your opinion on that? Did you seriously think it could be used against bacy?

@rockeater heeeeyyyyy

Oh god, I had literally forgot that guy's existence... Rockeater, mind to give us your reads? You're kinda AFK atm.

And tbh same here.
The “You’re kinda AFK atm.” feels like an explanation for questioning rock, cuz “oh no! they could scumread me if my actions aren’t clear!!!” It makes me feel like he's anxious to do stuff cuz he is afraid of how will people react to it

Why do you scumread bacy? I don't get it. I think she's the only player who really screams town to me. I think defending her is kinda NAI though (scum whiteknighting exists). But why do you have a scumread?

that's only one of the posts but why do i keep getting a feeling you're buddying me, i dont like it

what's your read on ceejay?

Are you claiming scum, since I would be wrong by townreading you?

His actions seem townish, but I get some... fake, forced vibe from it. Null-to-townish read.

how would i by saying you're buddying me even remotely be close to 'claiming scum' and saying you're wrong about townreading me? how did you even get to that, from where? i specifically said that this is only one of the posts that i got this feeling from, i chose it because it was the most recent post of yours at the time that gave me that feeling..

Then you're saying that if I say what I think, I buddy you?

Ugh… this is defensive as hell. This whole conversation is defensive as hell.
@MM how do you feel about bacy’s “buddying” posts?

In other words: You can't reply to someone scumreading you, because then you're defensive. You can't explain why you are suspecting someone, because else you're careful. What the actual fuck.

Bacy suspects me for... townreading her? Weird. It could mean she's not town... I still have a townread on her, but it's much lower.