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Post Post #4075 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 4073, OnTheMark wrote:It is either an investigative or it isn’t yes?
The role as a whole or the quest for that day?

If you believe the role as a whole is either an investigative or a non-investigative, I'm going to say you are incorrect in that assumption. A JOAT (Jack of All Trades) can include investigative and non-investigative actions. Jungle's role fits that description.

Now if you are talking about just the quest for the day, yes, ok. That's fine. That still doesn't mean "Jungle is a forever cop". What it means is "Jungle has a cop for that day's quest."

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Post Post #4076 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:44 am

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In post 4074, OnTheMark wrote:If it is an investigative then you have a continuously copping quest giver which breaks the rule of mafia.
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If it isn’t an investigative why not give it to Kaede?
Give what to Kaede? The quest? You're asking me why Jungle gave it to us and not Kaede? Or something else?

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Post Post #4077 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:44 am

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In post 4074, OnTheMark wrote:If it isn’t an investigative why not give it to Kaede?
1) We don't know what the quest is so making assumptions about who it should go to is dumb (with that said, Jungle should claim what the quest was)

2) Kaede has a good chance of dying (Not saying Ouroboros was a better pick, but still)
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Post Post #4078 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:46 am

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In post 4075, Impossibear wrote:
In post 4073, OnTheMark wrote:It is either an investigative or it isn’t yes?
The role as a whole or the quest for that day?

If you believe the role as a whole is either an investigative or a non-investigative, I'm going to say you are incorrect in that assumption. A JOAT (Jack of All Trades) can include investigative and non-investigative actions. Jungle's role fits that description.

Now if you are talking about just the quest for the day, yes, ok. That's fine. That still doesn't mean "Jungle is a forever cop". What it means is "Jungle has a cop for that day's quest."

ETL
I am talking about today and it’s ramifications going forward.

We have a confirmed town tracker flipped that may or may not be impacted by scum.

We have a claimed slow cop.
We have a claimed daycop on day one.
We have Kaede’s ability
We have Maria R who claimed an investigative on Dunnstral.

Do you see the issue?
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Post Post #4079 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:47 am

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In post 4077, Dunnstral wrote:Jungle should claim what the quest was)
Agree.
Dunnstral wrote:2) Kaede has a good chance of dying (Not saying Ouroboros was a better pick, but still)
Same for N1. IC is generally the first kill if there is an IC in the game. This is the only reason I can think of that we got it instead.

But if someone wants Person A's reasoning for their decision, asking Persons B, C and X isn't going to achieve that.

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Post Post #4080 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:50 am

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yeah man, because day cop is the only investigative ability in the world of mafia, so me saying that he has an infinite day cop is the only possible explanation!</sarcasm>
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4081 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 4077, Dunnstral wrote:with that said, Jungle should claim what the quest was
I do agree with this tho.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4082 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:51 am

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RC is very prideful and stubborn, I don't think that he'd let anybody change his mind if he was set on something.

OTM... well, I mentioned earlier in the game that we spent around two months arguing in Undertale. He blocked me from getting any vigshots for the entire time he was in the game.
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Post Post #4083 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:52 am

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Sorry I'm responding to stuff a couple hours late, but I was in a huge hurry and didn't notice the PEdit

So there you go.
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Post Post #4084 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 8:57 am

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In post 4078, OnTheMark wrote:I am talking about today and it’s ramifications going forward.

We have a confirmed town tracker flipped that may or may not be impacted by scum.

We have a claimed slow cop.
We have a claimed daycop on day one.
We have Kaede’s ability
We have Maria R who claimed an investigative on Dunnstral.

Do you see the issue?
1) Tracker is gated.

2) Cop is gated.

3) Looks like Jungle doesn't know what the quest will be until he gives it or the night he can give it at the very least. I'm willing to bet the other quests are not necessarily all going to be investigative abilities.

4) Kaede's ability is ???? irrelevant here.

5) Maria R is ??? probably scum. Continues not to claim anything about the so-called Dunnstral "scout". We know nothing about it, and she continues to give no information about it. <<< Not a trustworthy "claim" at this point.

I understand that your problem with the setup thus far is that it seems unbalanced in that town has too many ways to "clear" other people. Not only can scum fuck with every single one of these, but town has to work really hard to get them to work properly - they need to not die/get lynched for at least 2 full days/nights, they need to recruit properly and track properly and hope the action isn't fucked with, blocked, or otherwise, they need to jump through hoops AND get the entire thread to follow along to complete the quest. GIF is probably also randing the JOAT abilities for Jungle from a preset list of options.

This is not unbalanced. If your aim is to try to find scum based on setup spec, please don't. There is still not enough information. We don't know what the scumteam has.

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Post Post #4085 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 9:26 am

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Jungle can be scum in a world where the quests are not really protown things at all. We only have his word that it was even a daycop in the first place.
If we ignore the quests and go
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by play, how do you read Jungle?
I'm not sure TBH. It's painful to read.
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Post Post #4086 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 9:44 am

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3.02
punreader (1):
MariaR
REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE (4):
OnTheMark, Impossibear, Kokichi Oma, projectmatt
projectmatt (2):
Ramcius, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
Ramcius (1):
Ankamius
MariaR (1):
wilky
OnTheMark (1):
Alchemist21
Alchemist21 (1):
Dunnstral

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punreader, davesaz, Kaede Akamatsu


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Post Post #4087 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:19 pm

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In post 3945, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3941, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:sure go ahead and policy lynch me, but dont pretend that you're actually hitting scum lol

anyway, my vote goes here:

VOTE: projectmatt
Lol yeah that’s not a thing.

Jungle is scum.

If he actually was concerned about being policy lynched Jungle would leave reads and try to help, not a snap shot.

Jungle Winkle Maria R and Dunnstral

#solvedIt
oh yes, of course, my last read was "projectmatt is scum", hope that helped!


anyway, the quest i gave to RChydra would make them BP for the rest of the game if the quest was fulfilled. i didn't give it to REAL MAN KAEDE because i thought scum would shoot him and he would die tonight. funnily enough it was the opposite

of course, since the quest is more broken you can expect the quest requirements to be more retarded as well
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Post Post #4088 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:21 pm

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evil titus is still being evil titus. sad but town.
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Post Post #4089 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:23 pm

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if it means anything, evil titus is completely correct that if i, as scum, would shoot ETL first

but that would assume 2 things:

1. i am actually playing to win (lol)
2. i would off ETL (and RC) despite joining this game for the sole purpose of playing with them in the first place

and then

i would never shoot RChydra last night. even if my hypothetical teammates wanted him dead, i would veto it. or try to. whatever. i was sick anyway
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Post Post #4090 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:28 pm

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so is evil titus complaining about:

a) me being an "infinite daycop"?

or

b) me fucking up my daycop yesterday?


a) presumes my role is true. b) presumes my role is false.

you cant have both. seems like evil titus is voting us for both tho

it turns out evil titus is bad at logic
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Post Post #4091 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:29 pm

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Kaede is a she, REALMEN
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Post Post #4092 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:30 pm

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oh wait, shit.

evil titus is complaining that i am NOT an "infinite daycop"

well, no shit

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Post Post #4093 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:30 pm

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In post 4091, Ankamius wrote:Kaede is a she, REALMEN
i have upgraded Kaede into a REAL MAN
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Post Post #4094 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:31 pm

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right, my bad

when addressing REAL MEN i should use the pronoun HE instead of he

it is my mistake
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Post Post #4095 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:35 pm

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In post 4090, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:so is evil titus complaining about:

a) me being an "infinite daycop"?

or

b) me fucking up my daycop yesterday?


a) presumes my role is true. b) presumes my role is false.

you cant have both. seems like evil titus is voting us for both tho

it turns out evil titus is bad at logic
No, OTM thinks you have a crystal ball and can predict everything that happens and that's why you decided to shoot ETL while simoultanously giving them a quest because they would survive!
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4096 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:40 pm

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well, they are a long way to becoming a REAL MAN. cant blame them to think we have crystal balls and godlike powers

i mean, don't we? ;)
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Post Post #4097 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:46 pm

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REALMEN how caught up are you with the game
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Post Post #4098 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:49 pm

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In post 4097, Ankamius wrote:REALMEN how caught up are you with the game
i am up to date
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Post Post #4099 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 5:50 pm

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Where are your reads at?

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