Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[pinturicchio]

i know i'm not helping any case here but i played 2.5 days of a game once by straight up wholesale impersonating NSG's town meta so i'm wondering if i'd try to write some solid-ass townposts for her if we were scum together

okay so we gotta lynch someone and everyone thinks they themselves are a suboptimal lynch

i put out the call for reasons to townread ofrhz
i am disappointed with the lack of response

why should i townread ofrhz

Gutread, she (sorry ofrhz I always called you "he" in our previous games ) seems to be playing like Pick Your Poison; people wanting to lynch her on D1 is like a deja vu. Also her reaction to her wagon: in PYP her reaction was awful, she gained a policylynch status only for how she reacted; here, she was more "I don't know how to say it in english but like calm but that's not the word I'm looking for" after her wagon started to build. Do you think scum!ofrhz reacts better to her wagon that town!ofrhz? By Occam's razor, town!ofrhz learned how to react better to votes makes much more sense than scum!ofrhz reacts better than town!ofrhz.

(Also my gutreads are good)

[Mathdino]

oh i missed the "ofrhz is she" conversation whoops

i just noticed ofrhz having scum meta

nacho apparently read her by shitty logic and bad reads

in PYP ofrhz had decent reads but poor expression of them

i'm not sure i have a profile for how town vs scum ofrhz reacts to a wagon

OKAY TIME TO STOP BEING LAZYDINO
READING THE ISO NOW

[Mathdino]

okay yeah ofrhz is probably town, who the fuck is tunneling this slot

[ofrhz]

You did that in 2 mins?

[ruru]

The thing is ofrhz was pretty town to me for the first half of d1 in 721 and I'm not feeling the same towniness here

That's actually part of why I didn't want to say much about my vote, because my mental model of ofrhz is that she doesn't post well when under serious suspicion as town

So I didn't want to interfere with her natural obvtowning if she's actually town

[Mathdino]

VOTE: ofrhz
good thinkin tho!

I like where you're coming from, after extracting a bit more of your thought process.
tbh I think I'm being dumb with ofrhz. tonally she seems similar to our last game, but there's something awkward there.

also wagon motivation checks out

holy balls what is this vote

VOTE: the worst

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: ofrhz
good thinkin tho!

I like where you're coming from, after extracting a bit more of your thought process.
tbh I think I'm being dumb with ofrhz. tonally she seems similar to our last game, but there's something awkward there.

also wagon motivation checks out

holy balls what is this vote

VOTE: the worst

Aaaah here's the good ol' Dino I like

[Mathdino]

You did that in 2 mins?

yep

posts like 265 and 785 are good not-brain-dead pieces of reasoning

504 claiming that your meta this game is like night and day from your completed scum meta is a ballsy claim to make as scum

775 seems like a solid set of reads

i'm not really reading for how much i agree with you

like i have 2 methods of reading

1. critically read someone for their alignment
2. read someone's posts for the quality/accuracy of their reasoning

if i only have to do one then things go much quicker

[ofrhz]

I think HWS’s vote was worse than the worsts tbh

[Mathdino]

so let's just get this fuckin straight guys

pull up TW ISO and ctrl+f by "ofr"

so what we got is a soft defence of ofrhz throughout the entire first half of the day
- WHY ARE PEOPLE SCUMREADING OFRHZ HMMMM? (345)
- IDK OFRHZ KINDA SEEMS LIKE TOWN (317)
- STOP FLIP FLOPPING ON OFRHZ (306)

and then suddenly he's like "whelp NSG, blackstar and dino are on the wagon, maybe i'm stupid, WAGON HO!"
ignoring the fact that i was obviously just sheeping someone and didn't have a read on ofrhz myself

amusing sidenote, i missed 664 literally asking if people are ctrl+f'ing "ofrhz" in his ISO

regardless, it's opportunistic as fuck, ofrhz is known to be an easy D1 lynch

[ofrhz]

That's actually part of why I didn't want to say much about my vote, because my mental model of ofrhz is that she doesn't post well when under serious suspicion as town

So I didn't want to interfere with her natural obvtowning if she's actually town

I see what you mean but I feel like the reason why I naturally obvtown is also why I got mislynched so I’m trying to not spew dumb shit too much

[ruru]

504 claiming that your meta this game is like night and day from your completed scum meta is a ballsy claim to make as scum

Hmmmmmmmm

I hadn't looked at it from that angle

Actually I guess I misread a50 in a somewhat comparable situation in purgatory? (He vanity wagoned himself for heaven when he was very not-obvtown)

[pinturicchio]

so let's just get this fuckin straight guys

pull up TW ISO and ctrl+f by "ofr"

so what we got is a soft defence of ofrhz throughout the entire first half of the day
- WHY ARE PEOPLE SCUMREADING OFRHZ HMMMM? (345)
- IDK OFRHZ KINDA SEEMS LIKE TOWN (317)
- STOP FLIP FLOPPING ON OFRHZ (306)

and then suddenly he's like "whelp NSG, blackstar and dino are on the wagon, maybe i'm stupid, WAGON HO!"
ignoring the fact that i was obviously just sheeping someone and didn't have a read on ofrhz myself

amusing sidenote, i missed 664 literally asking if people are ctrl+f'ing "ofrhz" in his ISO

regardless, it's opportunistic as fuck, ofrhz is known to be an easy D1 lynch

Notice me, Dino Senpai

[Almost50]

Sharing is Caring D1 VC #15

the worst (3): HitAlt, jjh927, Mathdino,
jjh927 (2): northsidegal, the worst,
ofrhz (2): BlackStar, HeWhoSwims,
HeWhoSwims (2): davesaz, ofrhz,
Something_Smart (1): ruru,
davesaz (1): pinturicchio,

Not Voting: Something_Smart, Zoronos,

S_S V/LA till Tuesday

(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)

<insert some silly joke in here then LAUGH AT IT>

[Mathdino]

i'm not going to entertain a "the worst is scum because ofrhz is scum and TW is bussing/distancing her" theory when i'm not scumreading ofrhz in the first place lol

notable that TW has basically sheeped NSG onto 2 different people that he wasn't really even scumreading

[pinturicchio]

so let's just get this fuckin straight guys

pull up TW ISO and ctrl+f by "ofr"

so what we got is a soft defence of ofrhz throughout the entire first half of the day
- WHY ARE PEOPLE SCUMREADING OFRHZ HMMMM? (345)
- IDK OFRHZ KINDA SEEMS LIKE TOWN (317)
- STOP FLIP FLOPPING ON OFRHZ (306)

and then suddenly he's like "whelp NSG, blackstar and dino are on the wagon, maybe i'm stupid, WAGON HO!"
ignoring the fact that i was obviously just sheeping someone and didn't have a read on ofrhz myself

amusing sidenote, i missed 664 literally asking if people are ctrl+f'ing "ofrhz" in his ISO

regardless, it's opportunistic as fuck, ofrhz is known to be an easy D1 lynch

Notice me, Dino Senpai

Whoops fucked up the second post, here it is

[pinturicchio]

i'm not going to entertain a "the worst is scum because ofrhz is scum and TW is bussing/distancing her" theory when i'm not scumreading ofrhz in the first place lol

notable that TW has basically sheeped NSG onto 2 different people that he wasn't really even scumreading

No no, read the second post, the first one was for context

[Mathdino]

m'bad, 3 different people

my scumpool is something like

one of the worst/jjh
Smart (pending meta review)
HWS
pintu

core town is still {ruru, Zor, HitAlt} although i would really like to feel confident on ruru given that i didn't come up with that read and someone else did
NSG can probably be added to that for now

[pinturicchio]

<insert some silly joke in here then LAUGH AT IT>

<Laughing out loud intensifies>

[Mathdino]

pintu i missed your fairly decent case because it got drowned out by davesaz and ruru arguing for 2 pages about mafia theory and how to meta me when i'm literally not posting

[pinturicchio]

m'bad, 3 different people

my scumpool is something like

one of the worst/jjh
Smart (pending meta review)
HWS
pintu

core town is still {ruru, Zor, HitAlt} although i would really like to feel confident on ruru given that i didn't come up with that read and someone else did
NSG can probably be added to that for now

You're trusting me on town!ruru so you can scratch me out of that silly scumpool of yours

[pinturicchio]

pintu i missed your fairly decent case because it got drowned out by davesaz and ruru arguing for 2 pages about mafia theory and how to meta me when i'm literally not posting

Well, we came to almost the same conclusions based on the same info, so either I'm getting better at doing scumreads, or you got worse

[Something_Smart]

It felt obvious to me that you suspected me and felt like I had ulterior motives for my post and it was annoying that you didn't just say it outright. I remembered you dancing around the fact that you suspected me earlier, but I thought you did it more times than you actually had. So that combined with the fact that you're wrong made it feel like you were coming up with dumb reasons to suspect me. And I already explained what I was doing.

I don't doubt any of this, but the point of my questions wasn't to push a scumread on you nor was it indicating that I did scumread you. The point was to gain a little insight into why you might have said what you did in order to read you better.

I'm trying to engage with YOU. If I were set on pushing a scumread on you, I'd be engaging others in trying to change their read on you.

Also... if you thought I was coming up with silly reasons to push a scumread on you, what reasons did you think I had for doing that?

[Mathdino]

at some point y'all gonna have to accept that i did not read the majority of this game and it is a relatively good assumption that i have not read post #XYZ until i have explicitly said that i read it

i can trust you on town ruru without trusting your alignment
just like you're trusting me on town NSG without trusting my alignment

you having been scumbuddies with ruru is a pretty decent reason so i'll leave her as 3rd down on my townpool

but yeah i probably would have had different reads if i was present for more things lol

[Mathdino]

at some point y'all gonna have to accept that i did not read the majority of this game and it is a relatively good assumption that i have not read post #XYZ until i have explicitly said that i read it

caveat: i have now read the majority of this game just by reading the majority of the ISOs in this game

i was not however reading that much in real time outside of "find me some good reads to sheep"