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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:31 pm

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no you being scum with beeboy doesn't make sense. pls dont try to connect dots where there are none, ill tell you when there's an associative.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:34 pm

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In post 1650, Nosferatu wrote:no you being scum with beeboy doesn't make sense. pls dont try to connect dots where there are none, ill tell you when there's an associative.
There's 3 scumflips and you don't have an associative argument for Scum-Me?

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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 1643, beeboy wrote:I think we lynch GIF cause he is a vengeful claim.
Actually, we would be lynching
GiF
D5, because roles will recycle.

Nevermind, maybe
GiF's
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 1647, Taly wrote:
Nos
, the entire composition of your "notes" against me are 100% scum-motivated.

1)
You NEVER mentioned me as a potential scumread to you prior.
2)
I'm an obvious NK target in one of your lists, but since you're too busy wanting to kill off
Wisdom
, I'm easiest to be mislynchbait due to WIFOM.
3)
Your reasons against me are mediocre, at best.
4)
You never voted the other 2 flipped scum,
Wheme/YT
, and you quickly voted on the
Toranga
when it become popular... you have associatives to them. Blatant ones.
5)
Which leads me to the final point, where's associative of ME being scum with
Toranga/Wheme/YT
?
1. Prior to what? The notes? I re-read the game. I also had gif as townier than kidamn before.
2. I added you as a nk target because others town read you. I don't understand what you're saying for the rest.
3. I acknowledge there's some truth to that. I by no means strongly scumread you.
4. Well that just doesn't have anything to do with the notes. Tora was a policy lynch, anyone arguing otherwise is lying to themselves, I voted there pretty obviously because I was told to. I don't remember being there for wheme's lynch, and I wasn't needed to lynch YT. The idea that as scum I wouldn't bus the shit out of them is weird. Looking off the wagon for obvscum is counter-intuitive.
5. I haven't looked for any scum associatives.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 4:39 pm

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the gifs are really unwarranted.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 5:22 pm

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In post 1645, Taly wrote:It's not that deep.
You just said "it's not deep immediately" after implying that I didn't go deep enough. You did this by asking if I had read all of your reasons, as if I hadn't looked through all of them which implies that I missed a reason that adds further depth for your reason. I assume that you had a PT with beeboy when you kidnapped him based on the fact that you returned with a soulread on him. Townreading someone isn't any particular reason to remove them from the thread into your own shared neighborhood. From my perspective it makes no sense to abduct a town read that is in no danger whatsoever when that could have been used on either a. a potential mislynch that you're confident is town or b. someone that you place a priority on sorting early on in the game. From my point view, you simply abducted beeboy based on a miller claim, which is a dumb reason. Not for a townread, just for abducting. The use of your role in this case doesn't seem pro-town or pro-scum to me, just a waste.
Taly wrote:There's 3 scumflips and you don't have an associative argument for Scum-Me?
2/3 were lynched because they lurked.
Taly wrote:Talking about my alignment partially based on RVS stuff is irrelevant at this point in the game.
It doesn't have anything to do with your alignment. I don't know how you reached this conclusion. I was talking about your reasons for abducting beeboy, which were apparently partially based in RVS. Interested in how you figured this had anything to do with your alignment.
Taly wrote: ....So.... the only case against Katsuki was weak?

The only BULLETED case against Katsuki was weak?

Actually, maybe the only bulleted case in this game, weak?

Care to tell me why?
You act like the bullets (it was an ordered list) give it validity.
Case wrote:1) Sxumclaimed and I honestly believe it
2) literally useless.
3) Voted Screen, didn't vote Toranga, nd wanted 2 lynches.
4) Upon not gaining the "correct" information, they didn't want a 2nd lynch AFTER VOTING FOR IT. Backtracking and giving wxcuses for poor decisions is not a Town mindset.
1. This is trivial.
2. Role info indicates otherwise.
3. He voted for option 1 after switching from option 2 under the stipulation that a flip would be provided immediately after the lynch. One is a much better position than the other.
4. This is the same as 3. While I value 2 lynches over 1, the argument can easily be made that knowing the flip is what makes the 2nd lynch advantageous, otherwise you had 2 D1 flips instead of D1 and D2. The idea that it's a poor excuse and a backtrack is short-sighted.

Why did you think it was damning? Didn't it hit you that it was weak when no one followed up on it? Curious why this gives you a strong reaction.
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Nosferatsu wrote:The hype over keychain's last reads is a little bit ??? considering that based on those reads, I really doubt that's what he got lynched over.
Have you read the game?
Lynched, killed. Don't imply that I haven't read the game because I used a wrong word. Contextual clues make it obvious what I was trying to say. Discrediting me is unnecessary. Unless you're going to tell me that you couldn't see that I meant nightkill cause I used the wrong word?
Taly wrote: Ummm.....

Because town-town working together destroys scum?
You must misunderstand my point. I'm saying that your post makes it seem as if you are trying to seem as if you care about game solving and town cohesion but the enthusiasm does not feel genuine and thus the whole tone of the post reads as fake, which is scum indicative to me.
Taly wrote:Also, answers to these questions are VERY handy in referencing later for better refined reads. Your argument of me "fake-helping" isn't valid at all because I genuinely worked toward siding with someone I was feeling more likely to be town progressively.
Those questions don't help Wisdom with his reads. He's been playing long enough to consider what information he gains from each flip. This is what I mean when I say the tone of the post reads as fake, the "help" that you are providing does not seem like actual help. It looks like unnecessary words that you say to make it look like you are helping when in reality your involvement did not do anything. It's like Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark. His involvement was not truly significant to the ending of the plot, it would have happened anyway.
Taly wrote:Yeah, I was salty that my vote was boiled down to a sheep to Wisdom because that was a MISREP.
To me it doesn't read as a misrep. You doubled down on a stronger read to a weaker one because of the influence of another player. That's the definition of a sheep to me.
Taly wrote:"Haha! This townpool is GREAT because I KNOW ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN IT, ARE TOWN, AS A FACT!"
Or more likely, it aligns closely with the readlist within this same post. What scum advantage do I gain from complimenting your reads yesterday-- in my notes-- in this game state?
Taly wrote:You are not allowed to cast transparent suspicion on beeboy, that shit's unacceptable.

My...bad...? I'm not allowed to scumread someone? Why?
Taly wrote:And well, maybe I am buddying with people, because I'm trying to figure out who's town and who's scum?

Maybe if YOU tried doing that, you wouldn't have only lynched ONE scum this game.

Oh, wait - I meant bussed the PL that was Toranga, right?
Buddying isn't required to find scum. Your tone is unwarranted. I didn't catch scum because I haven't been playing the game. That's half the reason anyone scumreads me.

And tora was a policy lynch. I invite you to convince me otherwise.
Taly wrote:1) Because Wisdom was near conftown to me based off play and him actually thinking like a sensible person. Plus, I figured my push on Katsuki wasn't the best in terms of case structure, and I had a gut feeling that I was pushing town.
2) GiF... I don't know at this point, honestly. *shrug* I'll look at him if your scumflip won't win town the game.
3) Um... You could be associated to YT because you literally said he was town for no reason and you never entertained him being scum? 1508 and 1511
4) acryon is probably town due to PoE at this point, but regardless, you're flipping scum and it's happening now.
5) beeboy is still one of my strongest townreads, I really can't think of a reality where he is scum at this point.
1. Would you say your case was... weak?
2. It's likely that there's 5 scum. You should look.
3. That's literally not even remotely what's there. Read those posts again?
4. What do you think of his play.
5. Ok. I misinterpreted your post in then.

Just so I'm clear can you elaborate on your meaning when you said:
3) I need beeboy to do something so I can prevent my reads from becoming null.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 6:32 pm

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is nos rly claiming railgun lol

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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 6:34 pm

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We could also just anime massclaim tbh
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Thu May 31, 2018 10:16 pm

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:27 am

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In post 1656, Katsuki wrote:is nos rly claiming railgun lol

VOTE: NOS
What's wrong with claiming railgun?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:42 am

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lynch gif and have him shoot nos and taly lmao

re:nos
anything u expected of me is too much my son

my other default option is acryon but that is a little boring
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:46 am

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or just murder me i would like that
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:52 am

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sure

VOTE: purr

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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:00 am

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bye beeboy :(
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:18 am

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In post 1663, Purrcocet wrote:bye beeboy :(
what the fuck does that mean
Purrcocet wrote:lynch gif and have him shoot nos and taly lmao

re:nos
anything u expected of me is too much my son

my other default option is acryon but that is a little boring
please reread the thread... :facepalm:

I already said
GiF
gets his venge D5 when roles recycle...

Can you do anything beyond saying "lets kill the 1v1 off entirely while i don't provide any other option!"
Wisdom wrote:sure

VOTE: purr

gif tomorrow to make use of vengekills
I'm going to trust you're figuring out the last scum if there's 5 people?

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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:19 am

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So what now?
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:19 am

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Is there some anticlaim mechanism?
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:24 am

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I've claimed my anime since my first post
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:44 am

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In post 1615, Wisdom wrote:I delayed nos
We have no kill
Do the math

VOTE: nos gg
Was very excited to see this and that I was probably right on Nos, but then this:
In post 1623, Taly wrote:
In post 1621, Nosferatu wrote:sigh

VOTE: taly
Are you sad that I protected your NK target from your shot last night? :(
Nos is town. Look at those claims. Leaving the thread open at night is 100% town. Gunsmith read makes total sense. I was an obvious check at that point and makes sense why Nos seemed to (with some hesitation) treat me as town afterward despite the town turning on me. Also, if you are going to fakeclaim that you were gunsmith don't you fake-check someone else that didn't get mild heat as recently as yesterday?

We don't have a kill because someone targeted Wisdom. Wisdom is town. Taly is town for the protect.

Scum HAS to be in:
-Misaka Network
-Katsuki
-Beeboy
-GiF
-KidAmn
-Creature
-Purrcocet

Misaka
and
Katsuki
are both town to me based on roles claimed. Credible enough for now.
GiF
has offered to be vengeful lynched tomorrow, so I think we do that no matter what. Town or eats the rope tomorrow.
KidAmn
is locktown. I am probably fine losing a game to scum!KidAmn because man this was some confident play if so.
Creature
I am very unsure on, but I am still fine trusting others for now regarding the exceptionally strong meta-read.
Purrc
could be scum, but I think Nos has a very good analysis on the slot. Hasn't really done anything, but at the same time I don't get particularly strong scum-vibes.
Beeboy
has done
nothing
. Says he's gonna read up in --does nothing. Openly admits he is not going to even try to play the game in and . I actually have no clue how anyone looks at this ISO and can call it town outside of some personal bias from playing with him before. This is just not town. There is talk, but no content. There is no effort to solve the game even on an very basic level.

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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:50 am

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how is
nos
town

also
acryon
, its pretty clear who the 2 people that targeted
Wisdom
last night was

or at least 1 of them, because they claimed it...
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:50 am

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i suggest a meta rework if
nos
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:55 am

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also, if im scum, why the fuck would i NOT NK someone solely to BS a protect-working claim? we still have 10 people FFS

:igmeou: and its not like i was the most townread person OR necessarily scumread either - so i dont understand the connection of anyone saying im scum at this point.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:00 am

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VOTE: beeboy
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:01 am

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Game's ending today with beeboy, wanna see?
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:01 am

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In post 1671, Taly wrote:also, if im scum, why the fuck would i NOT NK someone solely to BS a protect-working claim? we still have 10 people FFS

:igmeou: and its not like i was the most townread person OR necessarily scumread either - so i dont understand the connection of anyone saying im scum at this point.
and before the whole WIFOM-inducing, dumb counterargument comes out of
"
Taly's
faking a protect to conftown himself!!"


i hardly give a fuck if people scumread me, just as long as im not mislynched

and im not saying
"im town for protecting someone!"


im saying
Nos
is scum because she probably shot
Wisdom

Creature wrote:VOTE: beeboy
explain?
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