Maria's Anime Binge Game over!

[Taly]

it's gone in effect
whatever nos did last night, if anything, will happen tonight instead

yeah, thats what i meant

[Purrcocet]

death always evades me..,

[Nosferatu]

mood

[KidAmn]

Alright, catching up now...

I delayed nos
We have no kill
Do the math

VOTE: nos gg

I SAW SAD AF THAT I WASNT ON THAT SCUM WAGON

VOTE: Nosferatsu

BUT I SHALL REDEEM MYSELF.

ADELANTE!!!

Well, that seems damning.

bro im a double voter what are you even

sigh

VOTE: taly

*looks at Ur Name's roles*

So... explain how double voter being one of your roles in a rolemadness game proves you're town?

he's actually managed to be so transparent that I lose interest in reading.

Okay, this isn't seriously a part of my catchup, but I'm going to choose to take this as a compliment. Like, yes, I aim as town to be transparent, to scumhunt (and apparently to do so I just need to follow my gutreads more often) and to avoid doing what I did in world.createNew(Utopia everHope) again unless the situation calls for it or it would be particularly amusing.

That said, every single read Nos offers is utterly inoffensive apart from Taly - I genuinely struggle to see how anyone can call this slot scum given the amount of work they have put in to gamesolving, their claimed actions, and Nos' complaints about the slot read entirely non-genuine. The Keychain comments also indicate a complete lack of engagement in the game, or completely forgetting what kill was submitted by scum. Possibly both.

Ok so I protected nos last night.

Discuss.

I told you to discuss not outing your protect target

Not that it matters

If

Nos

' scumflip doesn't win us the game, this needs to be strung up.

2nd. If it wasn't such a widespread thing outside of a few players, and the Nos associatives with YT that Taly mentions didn't exist, I would be seriously diving deep on GIF for their drop-off in the last couple of days.

no you being scum with beeboy doesn't make sense. pls dont try to connect dots where there are none, ill tell you when there's an associative.

So you hard SR Taly (ignoring how ass-backward that is for now) and your next tier is GIF/Misaka/Beeb, but you don't have anything that you believe ties Beeb to Taly (your hardest scumread)? Do you have associatives for any of your current scumreads?

1655:

2/3 were lynched because they lurked.

Disagree. Tora got the rope for lolhammering and disappearing (arguably lurking, but the lolhammer is a policy thing for me). Wheme was playing against town meta, flipped on Srceen for no reason, and then flailed and didn't engage with lines of questioning. YT arguably was lynched because of the NSG lurktell, but their stated views also made little to no sense from a town perspective, or indeed from anyone who had actually read the game.

Lynched, killed. Don't imply that I haven't read the game because I used a wrong word. Contextual clues make it obvious what I was trying to say. Discrediting me is unnecessary. Unless you're going to tell me that you couldn't see that I meant nightkill cause I used the wrong word?

This doesn't really make me feel any better about it.

We could also just anime massclaim tbh

Not unwilling, but genuinely interested as to what you think this achieves.

I'm glad I'm not the only person getting a headache from all these interactions around the delayer.

Revised scumpool: Nos, Beeboy, Acryon, GIF (although if we lynch in this pool Acryon is never first choice due to Nos' claim - in the unlikely event that it's true, Acryon is 99.99% clear)
Taly is... well, I have the same strength of gut-feeling about them as I did about Wheme and Tora but in the other direction, and I'm willing to entertain that my gut is just better at Mafia than the rest of me, so I will almost certainly never vote this.
Misaka/Katsuki are theoretically basically clear but I don't have that same feel about them, and it's not entirely inconceivable that there's some dank gambit shit going on. Basically, town until something radically indicates otherwise.
Wisdom having so many claimed protectives pointed at him plus the lack of a kill mechanically indicates town (outside of delayer weird shit) and I have no real reason to scumread them.
Creature is still Creature, and will therefore remain an ineffable mystery to me for the rest of this game, and in all likelihood the rest of time.
Purrcocet is Purrcocet. I don't know if anyone else can read them, I can't.

[acryon]

@KidAmn:

What are your thoughts on beeboy specifically? And what do you think about my reasons for townreading Nos?

[Taly]

Townbloc

KidAmn
Wisdom
Taly
Misaka
Katsuki
Creature

Acryon

and

Purrcocet

are low-tier town.

The difference is,

Acryon

is RISING in townread to me, and

Purrcocet

is STAGNATING, and slightly LOWERING as a potential partner, but I don't know yet.

Nos

and

GiF

can't be scum together, otherwise they're gamethrowing, or playing dangerously.

Assuming we have 5p scumteam, there's 2 scum left, and I'm really thinking

beeboy

could flip scum here.

Part of the reason I kidnapped/hooded him was because I wanted to KNOW about his roles, and at least formulate a town-plan with him. But he never really spoke much with me anyway.

((Because I felt there was a high chance for me to get mislynched D2 or NKed N2... sounds dumb in hindsight, but that's what I thought.

So I used my role D2/N2 that completely destroys ALL daytalk upon my death. Figured I could fuck scum with it, but assuming

Beeboy

is scum, and daytalk doesn't matter anyway with 4 scum lynched, I'm pretty happy with this vote.

Plus, seeing that other town had hooding roles in this game too; I really don't care for this role that much because it could hurt town as well as scum.

*shrug*

))

So here's where I'm at:

beeboy > GIF > Nos > Purr

Do not stop lynching/killing in this order until we hit town.

(

GIF's

either scum or giving town 2 free kills, so assuming he's town; then here are my shot recommendations based off the information in the thread so far.)

~

With 1 lynch happening right now, 2 NKs possibly happening tonight and 1 N5, and with

GiF

getting lynched venging 2 people, that's

SEVEN PEOPLE DEAD

.

There's 11 people left in this game.

I highly doubt the 4 people who survive to D6 and the massacre that's about to ensue on the playerlist will have scum in them.

Right now, we just need to solidify as a town and crowdsource reads/thoughts/associations for the most likely remaining scum.

[Taly]

And yeah, the numbers I used above do not take into account other roles.

But that's the path of the gamestate at this point.

[Creature]

Nos and GiF can't be scum together, otherwise they're gamethrowing, or playing dangerously.

Yeah, because there's likely only one scum left.

[Creature]

But he never really spoke much with me anyway.

Ta-da

[Creature]

Do not stop lynching/killing in this order until we hit town.

lol?

[Taly]

Nos and GiF can't be scum together, otherwise they're gamethrowing, or playing dangerously.

Yeah, because there's likely only one scum left.

Possible. I'm just speaking alternatives.

But he never really spoke much with me anyway.

Ta-da

These posts are what make me very comfortable with you being town,

Creature

[Taly]

Do not stop lynching/killing in this order until we hit town.

lol?

I'm meaning, if there's 2 scum left and we don't win.

[Taly]

[Purrcocet]

if i were scum these would not be my night kill choices lol

[Taly]

Fair point.

And I think it's pretty likely we endgame this dayphase.

[Purrcocet]

also the keychain misread is one of the deepest regrets of my life besides my life

[Taly]

also the keychain misread is one of the deepest regrets of my life besides my life

[Purrcocet]

beeboy, gonna be mad if ur scum
kidamn and i are mortal enemies but at least i knoe hes town i think

[Purrcocet]

i appreciate the gifs taly

=^•_•^=

[KidAmn]

@KidAmn:

What are your thoughts on beeboy specifically? And what do you think about my reasons for townreading Nos?

Question 1: 24 posts by Day 4, even with being pulled out for the vast majority of D1, is ridiculous and an anti-town way to play. Their input has been largely parroted from other players or just prod dodging/unrelated to the game. The majority of their (minimal) original thought was around the YT lynch:

It's funny how GIF has to play because he doesn't have a large set of excuses (my current on is strategical) to not post.

Toranaga's ISO is pure anti spew.

Oh i remember playing with YT

VOTE: acryon

Ima wait on YT to play the game before I give an opinion

You know even if you think NSG is scum. Which she probably was.
Your supposed to let the slot catch up and spew first.

In which they poked at GIF, voted you, and avoided having a strong opinion on YT until the lynch was inevitable, at which point they dabbed on in for the hammer. The act of hammering isn't necessarily scummy, but the way they vacillated around the periphery on YT/NSG until it was time to hammer is questionable at best.

As for your reasons: none of what Nos has claimed screams impossibility, but nothing Nos has actually done in thread has given me much reason to believe them. Claiming an innocent result on someone isn't hard, taking responsibility for the thread being open N1 isn't hard (and, at pains of repeating myself, Ur Name's roles should be indicating to people that there are very likely to be some very unusual mixes of alignment/role in this game). I think you're being swayed by Nos' clearing you, and it may be causing you to lose your way. I agree with Taly, FWIW: now that you're actually making an effort to gamesolve, I'm happy enough to take you out of my personal scumpool for now.

If Beeboy is going to be the lynch over Nos, that's not a problem for me, and I agree with Taly's list to work through - not sure I agree on 100% inflexibility on it, but presumably Taly would agree that if things change, things change, and it's definitely the best place to be looking right now, and our best chance to close out this game is to be as one. I have some trouble believing the entire scumlist (assuming 4 scum which I agree with Creature is probably more likely) are inactives/lurkers/shitposters, which is the only thing giving me the slightest pause on Beeboy/Purrcocet, but it happens.

PEdit: also yes, regardless of what I think of Purr, I agree the gif game is strong.

[Taly]

i appreciate the gifs taly

=^•_•^=

As Sailor Taly, I may NOT be the strongest towny in the bloc.

But I AM the most entertaining!

[acryon]

In which they poked at GIF, voted you, and avoided having a strong opinion on YT until the lynch was inevitable, at which point they dabbed on in for the hammer. The act of hammering isn't necessarily scummy, but the way they vacillated around the periphery on YT/NSG until it was time to hammer is questionable at best.

As for your reasons: none of what Nos has claimed screams impossibility, but nothing Nos has actually done in thread has given me much reason to believe them. Claiming an innocent result on someone isn't hard, taking responsibility for the thread being open N1 isn't hard (and, at pains of repeating myself, Ur Name's roles should be indicating to people that there are very likely to be some very unusual mixes of alignment/role in this game). I think you're being swayed by Nos' clearing you, and it may be causing you to lose your way. I agree with Taly, FWIW: now that you're actually making an effort to gamesolve, I'm happy enough to take you out of my personal scumpool for now.

Possible, but if someone were to fakeclaim gunsmith, I just don't think you ever "clear" someone like me. If people believe you, then you've "cleared" someone who was scumread by multiple people and if you're going to try to make an ally by clearing them, why do it with someone who has so little town-pull? It's just very hard to believe scum fakeclaims like he did and fakes me as the check.

[Taly]

In which they poked at GIF, voted you, and avoided having a strong opinion on YT until the lynch was inevitable, at which point they dabbed on in for the hammer. The act of hammering isn't necessarily scummy, but the way they vacillated around the periphery on YT/NSG until it was time to hammer is questionable at best.

I'd like to note that this type of play is VERY normal for scum.

It's like softdistancing/softbussing until there's no other option.

Also, I will say - partially from experience - scum likes to "wait" for their partners to do stuff that makes them less scummy in the eyes of town, so they reserve judgment.

Personally, I ALWAYS try to reserve some judgment when a replacement comes into the thread; but I don't stop trying to figure out the slot, though.

This is just making me think

beeboy

is scum even more.

[Taly]

;(

beeboy

stole my hammer too

the meanie face

[KidAmn]

In which they poked at GIF, voted you, and avoided having a strong opinion on YT until the lynch was inevitable, at which point they dabbed on in for the hammer. The act of hammering isn't necessarily scummy, but the way they vacillated around the periphery on YT/NSG until it was time to hammer is questionable at best.

As for your reasons: none of what Nos has claimed screams impossibility, but nothing Nos has actually done in thread has given me much reason to believe them. Claiming an innocent result on someone isn't hard, taking responsibility for the thread being open N1 isn't hard (and, at pains of repeating myself, Ur Name's roles should be indicating to people that there are very likely to be some very unusual mixes of alignment/role in this game). I think you're being swayed by Nos' clearing you, and it may be causing you to lose your way. I agree with Taly, FWIW: now that you're actually making an effort to gamesolve, I'm happy enough to take you out of my personal scumpool for now.

Possible, but if someone were to fakeclaim gunsmith, I just don't think you ever "clear" someone like me. If people believe you, then you've "cleared" someone who was scumread by multiple people and if you're going to try to make an ally by clearing them, why do it with someone who has so little town-pull? It's just very hard to believe scum fakeclaims like he did and fakes me as the check.

That's a reasonable point. However, there's an element of WIFOM (on a grander scale) to picking your fake clear if you're doing that as scum, and going for someone *too* widely townread could lead to you being disproven by an errant watcher/tracker in the wrong place at the right time. Also, as I said, I think there's a danger to getting too fixed on the claim in a game like this over the posting and what that says about the person.