Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[TehBrawlGuy]

the overwhelming majority on creature wagon does seem pretty weird if he's town tbh

i still don't understand why tpfkap/renais lynch aren't on the table and why this playerlist is completely OK with the level of bullshit in the thread. realtalk if it continues to be this awful I might just /out

[NicoRobin]

kk

[Randomnamechange]

aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin

[Randomnamechange]

the three players who were removed had the highest post count in the game
while i think it probs was a scum ability, they might not have chosen who to do it on

[Vartsun]

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.

Cool... engaged players all leave, and people just continue to state the obvious.

The only thing that keeps me from saying this ISN'T scum, is that it's possible this was a self-caused ability. Which I think would mostly come from town in this scenario.

I have a townish general read of the people here; so I can't see scum doing this to themselves, especially since neither one of them were in any danger of being lynched or wagoned with the present game.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Ugh... this gamestate.

the overwhelming majority on creature wagon does seem pretty weird if he's town tbh

i still don't understand why tpfkap/renais lynch aren't on the table and why this playerlist is completely OK with the level of bullshit in the thread. realtalk if it continues to be this awful I might just /out

I've never been OK with the level of bullshit in this thread.
I've never said "no" to a

tgkfap or renais

lynch, and I've voiced that they're my other two strong scumreads presently besides

Creature

.
If you're going to /out, at least be useful and talk to me on why

Creature

isn't a good lynch.

It's not hard to read him. He's made no stances in this game, and he's actively playing null. This is how

Creature

-antitown operates.

kk

OK - how's the apathy doing for yeah? Bet it's helping you fulfill your wincon.

aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin

So... 27 pages and you don't have many reads much at all?

And why are you saying

"

creature

could be scum but"

, if he's lynchbaity, then why aren't you discussing the wagon on him?

the three players who were removed had the highest post count in the game
while i think it probs was a scum ability, they might not have chosen who to do it on

I don't get the purpose of this post. You're parroting the fact that

the worst

,

Sajj

, and

reality

contributed the most

((which I would argue is not 100% true))

- but then you're stating that the ability was PROBABLY made by scum.

In essence, you make no conclusion or anything that someone gamesolving could work with.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.22:

Creature (3): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral
The Worst (2): Shoshin, Reality Check
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
Shoshin (1): TPFKAP
WhemeStar (1): ArcAngel9
Reality Check (1): The Worst
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
NicoRobin (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: Nancy Drew 39, NicoRobin, Creature, Scioness Sajj, Princess of Renais

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end at 7 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes.

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.27:

Creature (5): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral, TPFKAP, Nancy Drew 39
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
Shoshin (0):
WhemeStar (0):
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: NicoRobin, Creature, Princess of Renais, Shoshin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).

Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within

{the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}

If

Creature

were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.

A lot of

the worst's

,

reality's

, and

Sajj's

interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.

So now I'm little worried about the

Creature

wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe

Nancy

before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.

Wheme

was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for

Joral

... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the

tgkfap

vote much like the rest of their posts.

Okay, I just ISOd my last town game with Creature on MU. I had subbed in late to that game and had never fully read the entire thread. But comparing his ISO in that game with this one, there really is no contest. Keep in mind that this game has a 2 week d1 and the game on MU had only 48 hrs and he did a helluva a lot more solving in those 2 days, than he has done here in an entire week.

UNVOTE: Rennais

VOTE: Creature

So are you thinking he's scum off meta as well, now? Or in-game thoughts? What changed?

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

I'm going to post GIFs of kitties to entice people TO DO SOMETHING.

~ Taly

[Vartsun]

Who do we Lynch? NicoRobin, Princess of Reinais, TehBrawlGuy or someone from my wagon?

"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!

VOTE: NicoRobin

Mental note to investigate this post-flip, I mean, if people actually want to play Mafia and lynch this.

Though I'm trying to figure out what it means that Jareth took the 3 people with the most posts...

Who?

VOTE: Joral

Idc anymore not unvoting this

Can you explain this? I thought you were seeing the light,

Wheme

I am in Lebannon.

If you're going to post random flavor that adds nothing to actually figuring out the game, then at least explain what it means.

~ Taly

[Randomnamechange]

i have more reads
no one bothered to ask me about themthe questions about creature make 0 sense
i wasnt saying they contributed the most
i was saying htey had the most posts
and the ability posssibly removed the three highest posters rather than 3 players of the choice of whoever activated the ability
try reading the posts you are commenting on
shittier posting isnt any better than lurking tbh

[Creature]

Sorry, cat posts aren't what I need.

[Creature]

"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!

The ones I haven't included are sort of townreads and didn't say I was fine lynching any from my wagon.

[joral]

Though I'm trying to figure out what it means that Jareth took the 3 people with the most posts...

Who?

~ Taly

Good God, maybe I should give this up. It was a reference to whatever the hell that event was. Jareth... the goblin king from the movie...

[Randomnamechange]

from tHE BOOK BY KATE MOSS

[NicoRobin]

We've been thrown in the fire, we've been lost in the flame, but we will rise from the ashes again

[Nancy Drew 39]

"Yay! Because in a game filling with apathy, let's just throw HALF THE PLAYERLIST as a lynch, and then cast transparent suspicion on my wagon! WHEEEEEEE!!!

The ones I haven't included are sort of townreads and didn't say I was fine lynching any from my wagon.

And . . . those townreads are . . . ? Care to share with the rest of the class? Also, any scumreads, would also be really swell. kthanx.

[Nancy Drew 39]

We've been thrown in the fire, we've been lost in the flame, but we will rise from the ashes again

Thank you Dr. Phil.

[Randomnamechange]

i will fight all of you s2g

[joral]

from tHE BOOK BY KATE MOSS

My apologies, I was not aware there was a book.

[joral]

Wheme's latest vote on me is post 666. Confirmed proof wheme is evil.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.22:

Creature (3): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral
The Worst (2): Shoshin, Reality Check
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
Shoshin (1): TPFKAP
WhemeStar (1): ArcAngel9
Reality Check (1): The Worst
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
NicoRobin (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: Nancy Drew 39, NicoRobin, Creature, Scioness Sajj, Princess of Renais

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end at 7 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes.

The Goblin King has begun to sing!

Reality Check, The Worst, Scioness Sajj have been sent to the Underground.

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.27:

Creature (5): WhemeStar, Vartsun, Joral, TPFKAP, Nancy Drew 39
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
ArcAngel9 (1): Randomidget
Shoshin (0):
WhemeStar (0):
TPFKAP (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: NicoRobin, Creature, Princess of Renais, Shoshin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).

Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within

{the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}

If

Creature

were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.

A lot of

the worst's

,

reality's

, and

Sajj's

interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.

So now I'm little worried about the

Creature

wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe

Nancy

before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.

Wheme

was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for

Joral

... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the

tgkfap

vote much like the rest of their posts.

Okay, I just ISOd my last town game with Creature on MU. I had subbed in late to that game and had never fully read the entire thread. But comparing his ISO in that game with this one, there really is no contest. Keep in mind that this game has a 2 week d1 and the game on MU had only 48 hrs and he did a helluva a lot more solving in those 2 days, than he has done here in an entire week.

UNVOTE: Rennais

VOTE: Creature

So are you thinking he's scum off meta as well, now? Or in-game thoughts? What changed?

~ Taly

The game I played with Creature was an anonymous game, so when I was actually playing the game, I had no idea I was playing with Creature. If I had, I’d have never mistakenly voted for him. I remembered that Creature hadn’t really done anything useful until d4 and his play here - unlike his typical games I’ve played with him, weren’t exactly identical to the games I’ve played with him as scum, so I decided to ISO his posts in that game to determine if my initial recollection that he didn’t do anyhing useful until d4 was really accurate. I found it wasn’t - especially when compared and contrasted with this one. The most significant difference was that in that MU game I ISOd, Creature was making a sincere and earnest effort to sort reads - something he has shown extreme reluctance to do here.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Wheme's latest vote on me is post 666. Confirmed proof wheme is evil.

LOL I noticed that too. Maybe Wheme is Jareth?

[joral]

Taly, here's my problem. My vote on creature is basically a gut thing. Something "feels" off, but I can't say "in Post x, line y, Creature said z" which points to it. I'm not heavily committed for that reason.

Renais is the result of hooking a dice roller up to a dictionary, and I would vote her just to get it to stop, except for the fear of flipping town. I'd have said Nico for active lurking, since Nico's posts still have not included value.

And yeah. The pointless antagonism from Wheme is having a negative effect on me and my interest in this game, I will admit.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Taly, here's my problem. My vote on creature is basically a gut thing. Something "feels" off, but I can't say "in Post x, line y, Creature said z" which points to it. I'm not heavily committed for that reason.

Renais is the result of hooking a dice roller up to a dictionary, and I would vote her just to get it to stop, except for the fear of flipping town.

I'd have said Nico for active lurking, since Nico's posts still have not included value.

And yeah. The pointless antagonism from Wheme is having a negative effect on me and my interest in this game, I will admit.

Unless you want her alive to lategame/endgame, you gotta bite the bullet and do it. There's no guarantee we have a killing role to deal with her, and if we do lynch her, it's way better to do it early, both if she's Town and if she's Scum. If you don't think she's going to post AI content, then you gain nothing on your ability to read her by waiting.

If she's Town: Better to burn the mislynch D1 when we have the least info to go off of anyway, rather than on a day like D4 when we presumably all have good scumtargets. Killing her early also removes the distraction and debate of PLing her vs. lynching the scummiest players.

If she's Scum: We'd have to lynch her to win anyway, and we get a flipped Scum player to draw reads off of D1.

Like, I can get on board with Creature being Scum, but my ability to read him is only going to get better as the game goes on, and it's not for the players like Renais that are posting osusnly fluff. Plus, the fact that I'm the only person on her despite a lot of lukewarm suspicion absolutely reads to me like the scumteam is protecting her.

[Randomnamechange]

sounds gucci to me
VOTE: princess of renais