Micro 800-A: Double Day Unlimited [Endgame]

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: not_mafia

[Not_Mafia]

Don’t fuck it up Dunn

[northsidegal]

A lynch has been achieved!

Day Two, Lynch Two

Votecount 2.10

CheekyTeeky (2):

Cogito Ergo Sum, Lycanfire

Cogito Ergo Sum (2):

Not_Mafia, CheekyTeeky

Lycanfire (1):

Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia (3):

Lycanfire, Cogito Ergo Sum, Dunnstral

Not Voting (0):

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-06-03 21:43:59)

Mod Notes:

Apologies for the delay.

[northsidegal]

Not_Mafia was lynched. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 2 begins now and ends in (expired on 2018-05-31 22:55:59).

[northsidegal]

Dunnstral was killed. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

[northsidegal]

Day Three, Lynch One

Votecount 3.0

Not Voting (3):

Cogito Ergo Sum, Lycanfire, CheekyTeeky

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-06-14 23:10:59)

Mod Notes:

[CheekyTeeky]

Well this is the one set-up I didn't want.

[CheekyTeeky]

At least you can both see how I'm conf town now. I think you both know that I would vote the other, and you both know that you would vote me so I can't discern who is scum based on who is left. Can whoever is town of the two of you please give some thoughts about who is left?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm inclined to believe of the two of you it's CES based on interactions with Plot/Ali. Unfortunately my interaction reads are bad af so I need help.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

At least you can both see how I'm conf town now.

I agree the nightkill points away from you (I was not looking forward to an endgame with you and Dunn) but you're definitely not conf town, the same way I wouldn't've been conftown in the Dunn-you-me endgame. If you think you should be conftown here, then why wouldn't you make the Dunnstralkill as scum?

Were you willing to hammer not_mafia Yesterday?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm conf town because of my play, the accuracy of my reads and because I left myself at L-1 without being hammered by two players who know me well. If I were scum I wouldn't have left Lycan/Dunn stay together so long, I also wouldn't have left you and Lycan with myself at Lylo after pushing you both hard yesterday trying to get one of you lynched.

CES talk to me about Lycans interactions with Plot/Ali. Do you think they were bussing when Plot left them at L-1 for so long?

[northsidegal]

Prodding Lycanfire.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

the accuracy of my reads

You seemed willing to hammer not_mafia in #918 and voted both me and Lycan. You did also give some lame reasons for town reading not_mafia but I don't see how you could think this is an argument in your favour.

because I left myself at L-1 without being hammered by two players who know me well

I appreciate you letting us vote for you?

CES talk to me about Lycans interactions with Plot/Ali. Do you think they were bussing when Plot left them at L-1 for so long?

Sure. Certainly on D1 there was the notion that there was at least one scum in Pine/Katyusha; Plot-that-is-scum-with-Katya can respond to that in various ways - bussing sounds like a perfectly reasonable response. Is this question based off of Plot's iso or off of reading the game?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sure. Certainly on D1 there was the notion that there was at least one scum in Pine/Katyusha; Plot-that-is-scum-with-Katya can respond to that in various ways - bussing sounds like a perfectly reasonable response. Is this question based off of Plot's iso or off of reading the game?

It was a combo of Plot/Ali ISO with VCA.

[CheekyTeeky]

I appreciate you letting us vote for you?

The point is that I didn't self-hammer and both people who townread me + are aware of my meta just flipped town.

Another point in my favour is Alis interactions with me prior to being lynched. So if it's not you CES then you have two periods of bussing to weigh up between Lycan and I to convince the other. I know I'm town, I want to believe Lycan is town who got hard buddied by you D1/D2 but I struggle with them leading all the lynches on town/not being on the Ali wagon. The fact they've pushed for me or NM is pretty bad too. So CES if you're town please give me something to read you off like reasons why I'm scum that don't involve some farfetched plan for LYLO weighed up against reasons for Lycan scum.

[Lycanfire]

Heyyy

[Lycanfire]

Okay so I did a reread

Both of your interactions with Plotinus' slot suck ass

Thanks guys

There were times when CES was unconcerned with Plotinus' survival. Though he was never at the forefront of reads.

Cheeky took this a step further and voted the slot. And voted before CES D2.

Cheeky asks CES for their read on Alisae's slot, gets no response.

Bonus: this might have been the planned lylo.

So: I'd like to lynch Cheeky on my already stated reasons
-her kneejerk when I floated her as scum with NM, how she fell over herself midsentence and said I was promoting her as scum with me when she definitely didn't meant that.
-inexplicable townread on NM
-I don't respect AtE, and the last person (I use this word loosely) to use it flipped scum


... But Rosa is susceptible to AtE. Too much. That's one of her biggest weaknesses, and I mentioned before how she wanted NM to flip scum so she wouldn't have to confront the possibility of scum!Cheeky.

Rosa doesn't like the feeling of being betrayed by somebody

. It ends up this way because she opens herself up being manipulated in the first place.

That said, though, she plainly hated Alisae's existance, and had to be talked into townreading CES. Pine and Singer wanted CES, and I think if we rewound back to D2 and put a town sticker on NM's head, Dunnstral was leaning town!Cheeky and would probably vote CES.

So yes. Cheeky deserves to get lynched here, but everybody besides me scumreads CES, and my reads have been shit this game. Despite Rosa's weakness, she at least tries to read AtE. That's different from me. I combat AtE to get something readable. Everything readable I got from Cheeky was crap. Like, a sewer system of crap. You're a fucking sewer system, Cheeky.

VOTE: CES

This vote is my own. Fuck everybody not alive in this game. Also, fuck both of you too.

End or conftown yourself.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm waiting for CES to respond. I'll give him 48 hours.

[Lycanfire]

Biggest kicker is that you removed morale from Pine's wagon D2 and put focus on Alisae while she was freaking out and spewing shit reads, then when you asked for his read on em, he flaked out until the next game day. Meanwhile Alisae was pretty happy to end day.

Also no trolling

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm straight up not trolling. You have no idea about me. I might be a bitch but I'm not a bad sport, I do not slow roll.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Disappointed, but not surprised. I figured this is what Lycanscum would do. Even pushing the silly manipulation narrative that Cheeky put forward.

Cheeky, if you just look at ISOs, you don't really see what's going on - you miss out on the big Pine-Katyusha dust-up that explains Plot's actions and when you suggest this theory of me manipulating Katya, you don't see that most of our interactions were me answering her questions.

Pine and Singer wanted CES

I think we both know that Pine and singer'd be voting you here.

I think the question you should ask yourself the following question: which of us two has been trying to read you and which one has been manipulating you?

[CheekyTeeky]

Pine-Katyusha dust-up that explains Plot's actions

What? Can you please elaborate on this? What actions does it explain?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I just meant what you talked about in #935, the fact that Plot went after Katya. Pine and Katya were doing a 1 vs 1 thing and Plotinus would've been hard-pressed not to pick a side; the fact that he went after his scum buddy in that situation doesn't surprise me.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

In fact, Plot didn't really have a choice in the matter as he'd already stated a strong townread on Pine in #141. Notably, Pine had just about started pushing Katya at this stage but Plotinus doesn't mention her and yet most of the posts she quotes in #234 in support of her Katyascumread predate #141.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah looking back at that interaction I can see how Plot had to scum read Kat who was already at L-1, it looked like he scum read her for town cred - at a weird time and when someone unvoted he put Kat to L-1. I need to recheck what happened after that because Kat obviously didn't end up getting hammered but I suspect it's the period where he lurked out and then Ali came in scum reading Dunn and myself.