Mini 579 - The Plagues of Egypt Mafia - Over

[lord_hur]

Please don't prod him, replace him!

Yes, I actually agree

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

Ok so I thought that my mention of a Jester might attract some attention with the view of trying to save guardian but if you look back I have been the one pointing out his bad play and lynch bait comments the most. I only wanted to check up about that sort of role to decide what would be the right thing to do.
My feelings are that scum has nothing much to gain by claiming miller and the only thing if Guardian is scum would be it weould make it a lot easier for his partners to bus him. I am actuly thinking it more likely that he is a miller than scum. I am happy to have him lynched today but I am realy not sure what this will reveal.
So I dont mind a L-1 vote on him now.

unvote

vote:Guardian

[Guardian]

unvote vote: Guardian

[b/]

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

unvote

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

hahaha wtf was that self hammer pitty you messed up your tags

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

does anyone believe me we have a jester?

[Guardian]

ffs. I'm not a jester.

I just thought I'd been enough of a distraction to the town that I should be lynched.

There goes my ending the harm I've done to this game.

unvote vote: Guardian

I'm really not a jester. I'm just a miller. Which, ironically, could be proved if someone cop investigated me... Which shouldn't happen, since the whole point of my claiming was to prevent such an eventuality.

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

You have already proven yourself untrustworthy and I dont like the way in which you have played this miller role. You previously mention people not to vote for you because you are not a jester but you feel happy to self hammer.

I'm fairly sure I'm at lynch -2.

I also urge no one to vote me, but not for fear I'm a jester.

Whatever you may fear, I'm not a jester.

That was egging someone to vote for you so you could self hammer.
A miller only has to worry about being investigated and as of yet I have no reason to believe there to be a cop in this game. Your tactic of claiming so early is seriously bad if you are miller. You are a pro town role with only a minor issue. To cause all this controversy about it reeks of wanting to get lynched.

[lord_hur]

does anyone believe me we have a jester?

Yes. I said it before and say it again now, and post 377 if proof in my eyes.

ONLY a jester would do that.

[HackerHuck]

Jesters are pretty darn rare and I sure would hope that self-voting invalidates their win condition.

Guardian, I don't like how you keep trying to portray my vote on you as one that is based on your supposed millership. I had voted you prior to that and your claim has only cemented my vote. My comments were all related to how millers are bad news for the town. If you can tell me one good thing the miller does for the town, then I will admit I'm wrong (but I still won't pull my vote).

I've seen scum claim miller as often as I've seen town do it. It's not going to get you off the hook in my eyes.


I don't like how TVOD reacted by pushing the jester angle, but I'm not sure if it should be chalked up to newbishness.

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

I have a good feeling Guardian is a Jester I will admit a Jesus Jester is not quite on the time frame of reference for this game. If anyone wishes to hammer to find out the truth it is there but I am not going to be voting for Guardian any time soon.

[lord_hur]

I have a good feeling Guardian is a Jester I will admit a Jesus Jester is not quite on the time frame of reference for this game. If anyone wishes to hammer to find out the truth it is there but I am not going to be voting for Guardian any time soon.

What is a Jesus Jester ?

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

I mentioned earlier about Guardian being some christ jester role, as it was sort of in the ball park of the whole biblical thing but realise that was a little later than mosses.

[Singing Librarian]

tvod, what, in your opinion *is* a Christ Jester or Jesus Jester ? That's the problem I'm having, and it looks the same for lord_hur. Not the historical likelihood of the role (several thousand years out), but what you think it is.

When I read the overnight postings, I thought 'what!?' to both Guardian's self vote and your quite vote and unvote.

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

Big

question to people.....
Are you suspicious of me for bringing up the Guardian Jester possibility and my handling of the situation?
I am getting some vibes from people they are trying to set me back up as a lynch candidate for these things.

I mention the Jesus/Jester role as anyone with any ideas about Christianity will be aware that is was Gods will to have his son (Christ) die. This is totaly compatible with a Jester role.
Geez I thought people knew some thing about Jesus considering he has over 1 billion followers.

[Mr Stoofer]

I am not suspicious of you for bringing up the possibility of Guardian as a Jester.

However, I am positive that Guardian is not a Jester, because Jester's cannot self-vote (that would be contrary to the whole point of a Jester).

We just lynched ourselves some scum people!

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

Where is it written Jesters can not self vote.
And if that is so why would Guardians self vote be more indicitive of scum than say a miller?

[Singing Librarian]

We just lynched ourselves some scum people!

I don't think we have. tvod unvoted before Guardian bolded his vote. Grrr.

Big question to people.....
Are you suspicious of me for bringing up the Guardian Jester possibility and my handling of the situation?
I am getting some vibes from people they are trying to set me back up as a lynch candidate for these things.

I have never stopped finding you scummy. I unvoted in order to try to clear my mind, as I know that the fact that I sometimes find you difficult to follow may well be contributing to that. But I still have my eye on you.

Geez I thought people knew some thing about Jesus considering he has over 1 billion followers.

Yep, and I'm one of them in that strange thing we call real life, which might be why I wanted to clear up the time discrepancy between the Hebrews in Egypt and the New Testament. Thank you for explaining, though. There were a number of things that you could have meant, so it was good to know.

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

I am completely lost on this situation right now. If anyone agrees that a jester is not likely for Guardian and he is either a miller or scum then sure go for the hammer. But I must say Guardian your play if miller has been shit! If you are miller you dont play by drawing attention to yourself and wtf was all those snap posts about. Your best play is to try and draw the scums nk. Perhaps that was the idea by the playing cop early on. Actualy I think it very likely Guardian could in fact be a miller. I read recently a certain mod likes millers a lot.
Meh lynch him or not I am happy either way.

[Mr Stoofer]

Actualy I think it very likely Guardian could in fact be a miller.

Then why haven't you re-voted for him?

[lord_hur]

However, I am positive that Guardian is not a Jester, because Jester's cannot self-vote (that would be contrary to the whole point of a Jester).

It does make sense, but I didn't see this on the wiki :

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jester

And I don't have enough experience to know about it otherwise...

[Mr Stoofer]

If undo has included a Jester who can self vote and who wins if lynched on Day 1, I will personally kill him.

[lord_hur]

Actualy I think it very likely Guardian could in fact be a miller.

Then why haven't you re-voted for him?

Err I don't get it. Why would we want to hammer a miller ? If (big IF) he's confirmed, a miller's still town right ? Wouldn't we be better off lynching someone who has a chance of being scum ?

[Mr Stoofer]

No I don't get it either. I wonder what I actually meant to say? I can't for the life of me remember!

[thevampireofdusseldorf]

Well all things considered about this very annoying Guardian situation I would be happy for a stoofer lynching instead.