In post 1650, Sando wrote:Given that every player has done something that doesn't really make sense as AP partner we have to give credit to that person and we can't explain all actions as being wolf motivated. So we have to look at the preponderance of evidence.
In post 1650, Sando wrote:The evidence against you is your play around APs claim yesterday. You didn't join the AP wagon which would be either thoughtful town or wolf, since town+mafia are going to want confirmed wolf killed. That leaves this particular tell as pointing towards you, Ruby and myself. I know I'm not scum, and I think I'm particularly anti-wolf, and between you and Ruby I think Ruby expressed a better grasp of the dynamics yesterday, indicating it's more likely thoughtful town from them.
I was the first fucking person on the wagon
I was pushing it *before* the seer outed the guilty. I chided the seer for *not* joining the wagon I was pushing. How is that partner indicative? The *only* reason why I left the wagon was because it was L-1 and NM was off it and tw didn't want the day to end yet (you have a lot of experience with NM lolhammering, right? Does Noir ring any bells?).
You're telling me that I'm a partner because of my play around AP's claim in very broad terms. How exactly is any of the above partner-indicative? Not only that, you're misrepresenting what actually happened (saying that I didn't join the wagon when I *started it*) and are broadly pushing a narrative but can't explain how my behavior actually matches the narrative you're pushing. You're ignoring the fact that you're narrative has little relationship to what I've actually done this game.
The most charitable way I can view you misrepping me like this is that you literally haven't been reading the game ... but you haven't displayed ignorance like this about the gamestate before, which makes it kinda hard to believe that this is what's happening here.
I've found the 'dumb or scum' tell works fairly decently on players that don't seem dumb in a general sense tbh.
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1653 is incredibly survivalistic. Also there's 8 players right now; of the 7 players other than yourself, three of them are scum. Why would you proxy your vote to popular vote when 3/7 of the game besides yourself are scum?
Instead of defending yourself and trying to find ways to make people more likely to keep you alive, why aren't you looking for scum right now?
VOTE: uglyduck
I'm kinda ambivalent wrt voting ud or sando, but ud has a vote on him so I'll vote there for now. I strongly believe that there are associatives between the two of them.