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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 1646, skitter30 wrote:Ok, again, explain why you think I'm the wolf here. Like, how does my behavior actually match up with what you think wolves would have been doing throughout the game?
Given that every player has done something that doesn't really make sense as AP partner we have to give credit to that person and we can't explain all actions as being wolf motivated. So we have to look at the preponderance of evidence.

The evidence against you is your play around APs claim yesterday. You didn't join the AP wagon which would be either thoughtful town or wolf, since town+mafia are going to want confirmed wolf killed. That leaves this particular tell as pointing towards you, Ruby and myself. I know I'm not scum, and I think I'm particularly anti-wolf, and between you and Ruby I think Ruby expressed a better grasp of the dynamics yesterday, indicating it's more likely thoughtful town from them.

There's other indicators that also apply to others, but I'd like more people to post before I muddy those waters.

You're right though, early(er) pressure on AP is not WW indicative, but I'm also aware that distancing exists in this game.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:16 pm

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I don't get wolf!skitter. He pushed AP earlier. Like a lot. The only reason he wasn't on the wagon was that he unvoted to prolong discussion and hunt for the other wolf...
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:30 pm

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Just lynch the obv scum
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:35 pm

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So at this point i am accepting everyone is gonna end up seeing a Town flip on me at some point - and as it sounds if it is not today, it will be tomorrow.
So i have an idea that will hopefully negate my influence during the day as well as generate info for further days.

Either we elect someone to proxy my vote and i will vote there or i guess it could be a majority “i think UD should vote x” thing.
I’m not WW so that isn’t relevant.
If i am town then it doesn’t matter bc i would vote where i thought WW anyways.
If i am mafia i would of course aim for WW anyways, but this gives town players remaining the chance of controlling my vote to vote for my eliegied partner if we miss WW.

The downside to this is that i know i am town so i am letting 2 mafia and 1 WW controll my vote in a sense, but assuming mafia still is looking for ww today it’s not that important.

Whateves - that’s my thought. I guess my request is to lynch me tomorrow so my vote can matter for one more day.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:36 pm

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So scum omg
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:56 pm

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@Not_Mafia who's the other wolf?
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:57 pm

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Dunno
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:16 pm

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In post 1656, Not_Mafia wrote:Dunno
but you are 100% sure I am skum?
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:35 am

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But you're like 90% Mafia-scum.

Obvious attempt to discredit reasonable statement is obvious. Not_Mafia is probably not Mafia (at least not w/ UD)

Also I've decided that 'Fuggo' etc is a bit too aggro to use with a newcomer to the site. UglyDuck, we want to keep you around and do not intend any actual condescension. New folks are the lifeblood of the community, and just because you are transparently scum this game doesn't mean we don't like you :D
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:21 pm

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Pine wrote:But you're like 90% Mafia-scum.

Obvious attempt to discredit reasonable statement is obvious. Not_Mafia is probably not Mafia (at least not w/ UD)

Also I've decided that 'Fuggo' etc is a bit too aggro to use with a newcomer to the site. UglyDuck, we want to keep you around and do not intend any actual condescension. New folks are the lifeblood of the community, and just because you are transparently scum this game doesn't mean we don't like you :D
its ok I take no offense to fuggo, just a nick name I am fine with it :P

Also i am not trying to discredit anything right now. I am attempting to have a player who says nothing of value state something "black and white" so that it can be reviewed after my flip.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:52 pm

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VOTE COUNT - 3.1
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Not Voting

, skitter30, , ceejayvinoya, RubyRed, UglyDuck, Not_Mafia, Fumuki

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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:52 pm

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In post 1643, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Fuggers

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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:53 pm

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You're not accepted
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:05 pm

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Your avatar isn't accepted

Down with Whitney
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:09 pm

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Your mum is not accepted

Whitney takes you down, you don't take Whitney down
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:35 pm

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What happened to the capslock bandit?
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:53 pm

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does literally no one other than the cow want to comment on my idea like literally at all?
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:54 pm

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I just used "like" and 2x "literally" and I am ashamed of myself. Also I am a little drunk. But also also - really... no one wants to mull that over?
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:00 pm

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Pass

drunkposting is good though
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:17 pm

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In post 1666, UglyDuck wrote:does literally no one other than the cow want to comment on my idea like literally at all?
It's a terrible idea and is more likely to come from scum.

I see no reason why town would bother putting forward such a plan, and just not scumhunt like a regular town.

Besides if you're scum, I don't think you'll bother helping us out anyway on finding the last wolf, because it says on the rules that if wolf and mafia are on a tie, mafia wins. Plus, nightless will make this hard for your team. You're probably aiming for a town lynch.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:33 pm

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In post 1650, Sando wrote:Given that every player has done something that doesn't really make sense as AP partner we have to give credit to that person and we can't explain all actions as being wolf motivated. So we have to look at the preponderance of evidence.
In post 1650, Sando wrote:The evidence against you is your play around APs claim yesterday. You didn't join the AP wagon which would be either thoughtful town or wolf, since town+mafia are going to want confirmed wolf killed. That leaves this particular tell as pointing towards you, Ruby and myself. I know I'm not scum, and I think I'm particularly anti-wolf, and between you and Ruby I think Ruby expressed a better grasp of the dynamics yesterday, indicating it's more likely thoughtful town from them.
I was the first fucking person on the wagon :facepalm:

I was pushing it *before* the seer outed the guilty. I chided the seer for *not* joining the wagon I was pushing. How is that partner indicative? The *only* reason why I left the wagon was because it was L-1 and NM was off it and tw didn't want the day to end yet (you have a lot of experience with NM lolhammering, right? Does Noir ring any bells?).

You're telling me that I'm a partner because of my play around AP's claim in very broad terms. How exactly is any of the above partner-indicative? Not only that, you're misrepresenting what actually happened (saying that I didn't join the wagon when I *started it*) and are broadly pushing a narrative but can't explain how my behavior actually matches the narrative you're pushing. You're ignoring the fact that you're narrative has little relationship to what I've actually done this game.

The most charitable way I can view you misrepping me like this is that you literally haven't been reading the game ... but you haven't displayed ignorance like this about the gamestate before, which makes it kinda hard to believe that this is what's happening here.

I've found the 'dumb or scum' tell works fairly decently on players that don't seem dumb in a general sense tbh.

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is incredibly survivalistic. Also there's 8 players right now; of the 7 players other than yourself, three of them are scum. Why would you proxy your vote to popular vote when 3/7 of the game besides yourself are scum?

Instead of defending yourself and trying to find ways to make people more likely to keep you alive, why aren't you looking for scum right now?

VOTE: uglyduck

I'm kinda ambivalent wrt voting ud or sando, but ud has a vote on him so I'll vote there for now. I strongly believe that there are associatives between the two of them.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:48 pm

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In post 1666, UglyDuck wrote:does literally no one other than the cow want to comment on my idea like literally at all?
Oh right, terrible idea. You're not wolf and both mafia and town are motivated to hunt for wolf right now. By abrogating your responsibility all you're doing is harming towns ability to mafia-hunt using your associations, hence CJ is correct that it's more like to come from scum.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:50 pm

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In post 1670, skitter30 wrote:The most charitable way I can view you misrepping me like this is that you literally haven't been reading the game ... but you haven't displayed ignorance like this about the gamestate before, which makes it kinda hard to believe that this is what's happening here.

I've found the 'dumb or scum' tell works fairly decently on players that don't seem dumb in a general sense tbh.
Aaaaaand yet you follow this by voting the person arguably least likely to be the last wolf alive...
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:54 pm

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a) you're voting for someone on the basis that you think she's a wolf but can't describe how without grossly misrepping her

b) I think the wolf is pine or nm. I don't think that there's much interest in wagoning either right now
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:07 pm

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In post 1673, skitter30 wrote:a) you're voting for someone on the basis that you think she's a wolf but can't describe how without grossly misrepping her

b) I think the wolf is pine or nm. I don't think that there's much interest in wagoning either right now

So why are you voting for me...?

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