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Post Post #4700 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:20 pm

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In post 4699, OnTheMark wrote:Dave and Jungle fuck :/
OnTheMark.

MariaR is mechanically confirmed to be pun.


We're talking, this is literally a Jingle-guilty all over again. She is, 100%, unambiguously, confirmed to be pun.

projectmatt had, and used, an action N2.
MariaR was the only member of the neighborhood aside from Ouroboros.
As per the mod, davesaz even if he were pun (he is) being added to the hood
does not influence the results of the night
.
The claimed results were that projectmatt did not action.

She is literally guiltied beyond guilt.

davesaz is indeed pun, and is indeed her partner, but there is no possible world where MariaR would be town.
Let me give an Alternative perspective.
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Post Post #4701 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:24 pm

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In post 4700, Punreader wrote:
In post 4699, OnTheMark wrote:Dave and Jungle fuck :/
OnTheMark.

MariaR is mechanically confirmed to be pun.


We're talking, this is literally a Jingle-guilty all over again. She is, 100%, unambiguously, confirmed to be pun.

projectmatt had, and used, an action N2.
MariaR was the only member of the neighborhood aside from Ouroboros.
As per the mod, davesaz even if he were pun (he is) being added to the hood
does not influence the results of the night
.
The claimed results were that projectmatt did not action.

She is literally guiltied beyond guilt.

davesaz is indeed pun, and is indeed her partner, but there is no possible world where MariaR would be town.
Guess I should have caught up then

VOTE: MariaR

Sorry brain is a bit of scrambled eggs. Behind on one of my meds.
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Post Post #4702 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 3747, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Abilities:
  • Recruit:
    During the night, you may recruit a player to your neighborhood. You can only invite up to two members. If for any reason one of your member dies, you may recruit again up to the maximum members.
  • Railroad:
    Recruiting a member awards you with 1-shot track for the neighborhood. This ability is a shared ability and the majority of the neighborhood must agree to a target. Recruiting the member of the
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    will permanently compromise this ability and you will get "no visit" result for all investigations, regardless of your target's actual actions.
In post 3773, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Someone asked for clarification. Deacon's neighbor track receives that the target did not visit anyone regardless of if the target actually visited someone when the neighborhood is compromised.
In post 4676, Alchemist21 wrote:
@MOD, Regarding this quoted role, if a member of the Institute were recruited on the same Night as a Track attempt, would that Night's Track attempt return a "no visit" result?
In post 4684, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4676, Alchemist21 wrote:@MOD, Regarding this quoted role, if a member of the Institute were recruited on the same Night as a Track attempt, would that Night's Track attempt return a "no visit" result?
The result will be compromised when the institute is already in the neighborhood.
In post 3750, MariaR wrote:I claim in the hood with rc
In post 3862, MariaR wrote:The target did not visit.
In post 3896, MariaR wrote:
In post 3894, Kokichi Oma wrote:They have no reason to lie, even as scum. If they say they did visit and you're lynched as town, they are confirmed scum. Which isn't a good trade off.
eh fair it was matt
In post 3936, projectmatt wrote:i confirm that i did not visit last night.
In post 4454, projectmatt wrote:my flavor is piper. i'm an odd night rolecop. my pm specifies that i can investigate on every other night, starting on n1.

nero cain did not submit an action on night one. (i've been trying to figure out why, tbh.)

i was unable to investigate tonight.

assuming i'm not lynched today, i am going to investigate tonight within impossibear's scumpool.
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projectmatt, Piper (
Institute Role Cop
), was lynched Day 3.
Piper
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    Your flavor is safe to claim as is.
  • I'm a reporter, dammit:
    During the night, you may learn your target's role.
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Post Post #4703 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:30 pm

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For the record, as our vig is dead, I intend to hide behind davesaz tonight.
I would strongly recommend OnTheMark block davesaz after a MariaR lynch.

Others should action as how they best see fit.
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Post Post #4704 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:40 pm

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kaede: Hmm, well you have a very solid point regarding punreader. I don't find it likely scum performs that kind of buss on one of their partners, further implicating one of their other partners. punreader would have to be an expertly scum player to pull all this off.

I will shift him to my town-leaning region.

right now
Town: Kaede, OnTheMark, Ankamius, davesaz
Town lean: Dunnstral, alchemist21, Kokichi, punreader
Nulltown: RMOJ, wilks
Scum: MariaR

Let me revisit some of the information on rmoj/wilks, because they would be my next choices for scum.
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Post Post #4705 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:50 pm

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In post 4703, Punreader wrote:For the record, as our vig is dead, I intend to hide behind davesaz tonight.
I would strongly recommend OnTheMark block davesaz after a MariaR lynch.

Others should action as how they best see fit.
...I kinda have a bad feeling about this.

Kaede ? Like I get it but my gut says no.
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Post Post #4706 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:51 pm

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my legs are killing me I'm back from new york
I bet Maria is scum this game
~Firebringer
Na Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~
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MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~
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Post Post #4707 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 4698, OnTheMark wrote:...legit frustrated.

Jungle is scum.

If we trigger the requirement Kaede = commuter = good so yay! Why would you not tell us?
it's okay, i dont intend to let a potential Jungle scum live long, Jungle has until both MariaR and dave are lynched and/or otherwise dead to have a working quest, no shenanigans, no hidden info, etc.
That is assuming that game hasnt ended after davesaz is lynched i will eventually look back at Jungle and even Kokichi, we have the advantage atm with 2 dead scum and 1 hard guilty on the other, let's not mindlessly kill, k?
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Post Post #4708 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:02 pm

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@Jungle: Why did you give me a commuting quest when I had stated yesterday that I had a targeting action, although i still need to ask GIF if this would interfere, but logic says that a commuting player cannot act.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4709 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:25 pm

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While being a commuter might be better than what my role currently does, it's not like Jungle had any way of knowing what my action did.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4710 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:03 pm

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What the heck are these quests? I'm confused by them; never played with quests before in a game.

Also, I definitely feel RMOJ as my next scum choice, once Maria flips scum. Shall I die at some point this night phase for whatever odd reason, do pursue him next day phase. It's unlikely scum would have 2 investigative roles unless town is stacked, so that puts wilky in the clear for now.

That means
Town: Kaede, OnTheMark, Ankamius, davesaz
Town lean: Dunnstral, alchemist21, kokichi oma, punreader, wilky
Scum lean: RMOJ
Scum: MariaR
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Post Post #4711 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 4696, Punreader wrote:As I had previously indicated, I hid behind Kokichi Oma.
Does this mean I'm clear?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #4712 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:15 pm

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Well at least we finally get to lynch obvious scum.

VOTE: Maria
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #4713 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:16 pm

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Kaito you get buddied by her too often, I'm no longer asking you your read on Maki
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Post Post #4714 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:28 pm

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I feel like something is wrong and have no words to explain.
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Post Post #4715 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:29 pm

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The something that is wrong is that you're not voting mafia.
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Post Post #4716 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:29 pm

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nevermind you are.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #4717 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:30 pm

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In post 4701, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 4700, Punreader wrote:
In post 4699, OnTheMark wrote:Dave and Jungle fuck :/
OnTheMark.

MariaR is mechanically confirmed to be pun.


We're talking, this is literally a Jingle-guilty all over again. She is, 100%, unambiguously, confirmed to be pun.

projectmatt had, and used, an action N2.
MariaR was the only member of the neighborhood aside from Ouroboros.
As per the mod, davesaz even if he were pun (he is) being added to the hood
does not influence the results of the night
.
The claimed results were that projectmatt did not action.

She is literally guiltied beyond guilt.

davesaz is indeed pun, and is indeed her partner, but there is no possible world where MariaR would be town.
Guess I should have caught up then

VOTE: MariaR

Sorry brain is a bit of scrambled eggs. Behind on one of my meds.
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Post Post #4718 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:32 pm

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Kaede what do you make of Punreader’s plan?

Is it possible Jungle is just derp!Town a long with Dave and punreader is last scum scared of me blocking punreader?

Assuming MariaR is scum how bad would it be if I blocked punreader?
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Post Post #4719 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:01 pm

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how bad depends on how many scum you think exist after MariaR's scumflip.
his plan fits with his reads tho.
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Post Post #4720 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:03 pm

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Regardless I think it's obvious now that scum shot impossibear N1, no? Im not sure why davesaz has a pseudo guilty on him anymore, but it doesnt hurt to try, if you think there's 1 scum left after the death of MariaR then if a kill happens when you roleblock someone there's a clear right there.
I generally dont care about plans at this point, because as long as my stronger townreads are town this is auto win.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4721 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:12 pm

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In post 4711, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 4696, Punreader wrote:As I had previously indicated, I hid behind Kokichi Oma.
Does this mean I'm clear?
No it doesnt, unfortunately. I still have my doubts of you being scum, but with this major advantage I can give myself some leeway.

On other news, just in case scum has a redirector or bus driver, until one flips i wont act at all during the night. Considering my ability is now known i wont have scum using it as a second kill. Sorry scum, you lost your chance, although tbh if i had been shot last night i would've taken scum out with me.
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Post Post #4722 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:15 pm

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Let's acknoweldge the following facts.

Impossibear flipped ONE SHOT bulletproof (not full bulletproof), it's in their role name.
Scum had an active Role Cop for 2 nights.
Impossibear died N3.

If impossibear's bulletproof was indeed unlimited, then scum would've needed a strongman to deal with it.
I think the conclusion of Scum shot impossibear N1, Scum rolecopped impossibear N2, Scum shot impossibear N3, is a pretty good posibility.

As such either Nero, MariaR or a possible 3rd unknown scum if dave is town, shot Impossibear since dave was roleblocked N1.

Basically what i mean is that the evidence against dave isnt as damning as before, that doesnt make him town, just less likely to be scum via mechanics.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #4723 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:16 pm

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Now also knownscum matt defended dave D2 pretty hard.
So It's entirely possible he's scum by association.
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Post Post #4724 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:18 pm

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If the game's not over after lynching MariaR and dave, i will acknowledge that Kokichi, Jungle and punreader shouldnt be treated as town as i stated before, punreader is supposed to be a good scum planner? that being said, i didnt like Ramcius, but matt was trying to lynch him pretty hard, and Ram is kinda lynchbaity, RC also said he's good at reading lynchbait and was townreading Ramcius, so i'd probably give him a townread for now, if among all those 5 we havent won then i seriously messed up somewhere.
Back to my old main for now

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