SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Srceenplay]

someone who isn't me, give me your thoughts on 307

I’m rethinking my read on him now because of it.

I’m rerethinking

[Srceenplay]

someone who isn't me, give me your thoughts on 307

I’m rethinking my read on him now because of it.

Where's the direction of your read going? What makes you rethink that?

I actually think

DV

brought up valid points in 307 on

TGB

, and I agree with the reasons behind his read there.

~

DV

, now that my tunnel on

TBG and PP

has temporarily calmed down; what was your

original

plan?

Change of plan. The time is actually now! (Plans to do something else ended up falling through)

And what about

TBG

made you change that thought process?

DV was solid low points for me.
When I first read through it looked like some time and thought was put into that big post. So maybe I was wrong.
Now after rereading it I get more of a blah feeling. It felt like it was stretching and forcing point.

[Srceenplay]

it.

Answered ^

[Srceenplay]

How do I know scum doesn't want to give someone an all 0?

And why are you voting based on who gets votes by others? What if it was one of your poorly articulated townreads? Your posting is noncomittal and easy to flow with.

I feel like you don't get the point I'm making.

Say at the end of the day, the players that are generally suspected are A, B, and C, and each gets very low ranking points. If they're close enough, Scum can decide which of the three they want to save, and give that player higher ranking points, thereby choosing which set of {A, B} {B, C} {A, C} dies and flips. Hell, if the field's close enough, they could boost all three, and we might see a {D, E} flip, which is obviously awful. I would much rather we just all agree, to, say, give {A, C} 0s and ensure they flip. Now do you see why a mass 0-ing limits the power of what Scum can do by coordinating their own rankings? Scum absolutely are going to coordinate amongst themselves - it's naive to think otherwise. That's why we need to coordinate amongst the Town to limit their influence.

I'm ranking based on votes because I feel the loss of personal agency is worth giving votes a tangible value. Votes were worthless before I did that, and now they have a tangible value in controlling my rankings. If more players did that, votes would become more important, and we could use that to scumhunt/gamesolve/whatever. Enough players do it, and we have a psuedolynch.

Also, there's no reason to call my townreads "poorly articulated" there unless you're trying to be condescending or grandstand, and neither is helpful or necessary.

I’m not sure of the math but someone can figure it out, right?

Even if we all agree on who to give zeros to. Say we pick scum. If scum gave themselves 10 instead of zeros will that put them over the 1’s and 2’s?

[Pine]

Yeah EP was suuuuuuuper drunk in the Fox Discord last night, and let slip that Taly is Town. They also suggested we revisit voting Penguin off the island.

I dunno. Maybe I should report them to listmod for gamethrowing?

[Srceenplay]

Trying to chainsaw a lynch. You think the post is SvT but don't make a solid stance on what one is what gives you options I dislike that. You basically spent the whole post explaining why it

could

be TvS but never took a stance on what one you think it is giving town the option to jump in and do the work for you

He is giving thoughts and feels.
Doesn’t know how to explain them but puts them out there.
Instead of helping him sort them you attack him for being open with his thoughts.

Brawl is now for sure above 5 for me.

[Srceenplay]

I've decided that I am enough of a negatively utility at this point that I'm going to claim.

I'm Shadoweh. Conditional Ascetic Townie with the passive that no actions from someone ranked lower than me can affect me, including night kills. This is why I suspected Punreader's BP claim.

Since I'm likely to be ranked low...claiming seemed to be beneficial.

Sounds like an awesome pro town ability.
Do you feel like you have done what you can to be universally town read?

[Srceenplay]

Trying to chainsaw a lynch. You think the post is SvT but don't make a solid stance on what one is what gives you options I dislike that. You basically spent the whole post explaining why it

could

be TvS but never took a stance on what one you think it is giving town the option to jump in and do the work for you

i liked the vagueness and feel the complete opposite. i'd thought his earlier posts pointed to what you're saying here, but the shitty answer is something i see more from town who had a bad feeling.

pedit: not Chara?

punreader, i can't wait for why i'm a perfect ten.

Heh. That’s basically what I said.

[Errantparabola]

Looking into replacing ActionDan.
Prodding NicoRobin.

[Errantparabola]

Official Unofficial Votecount 1.2

Espeonage

(2): the worst, TehBrawlGuy

Fire Assassin

(1): NicoRobin

PenguinPower

(1): Taly

Shoshin

(1): Srceenplay

Taly

(1): PenguinPower

the worst

(1): Shoshin

Not Voting

(11): Punreader, MariaR, DeasVail, Espeonage, Dunnstral, ActionDan, TwoInAMillion, Fire Assassin, ReubenWasFine, Chara, Vaxkiller

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End The Day

(0):
(10 needed for majority)

Deadline in (expired on 2018-06-17 08:11:00)

[Srceenplay]

wanted Srceen to have to answer before you did for him

I missed the question.

[Shoshin]

When I first read through it looked like some time and thought was put into that big post. So maybe I was wrong.

What were your original thoughts on the actual content of 307?

[Srceenplay]

So hey you guyz

EP was just in the Fox Discord just now, and told me that Brawl is Town. Like legit confTown. Seems SUPER UNPROFESSIONAL to me, but whatev.

They also hinted that if we were smart, we’d downvote Punreader. I dunno. They might be drunkmodding.

Why not listmod here and replace out?

[Srceenplay]

When I first read through it looked like some time and thought was put into that big post. So maybe I was wrong.

What were your original thoughts on the actual content of 307?

I didn’t really read the content. I just skimmed the post and made an assumption.

[Srceenplay]

Ok. New scum team.
Espe
Pp
Maria.

Low points
DV
The Worst
Nico
Action

Everyone else is a little higher.

[Chara]

The more people tell me my questions are "silly" or "fake", the less I view them as pro-town. And the more people cultivate this mentality that I'm being disingenuous by ENGAGING, is good for scum to twist for their convenience later.

would like to clarify i didn't think this, just couldn't think of a good way to explain when talking to Fire.

[Chara]

wanted Srceen to have to answer before you did for him

I missed the question.

question was how knowing who will die at night helps the town. (as opposed to scum.)

[MariaR]

eh that's nai

[Errantparabola]

Nahdia replaces ActionDan. Welcome them warmly.

[MariaR]

oh no nat in a scum slot feels bad

[Fire Assassin]

ummm I am not okay with this?

[Nahdia]

Hey. Reading. Is there any reason the day hasn't been ended early?

[Dunnstral]

Probably since we're playing the game

[Srceenplay]

wanted Srceen to have to answer before you did for him

I missed the question.

question was how knowing who will die at night helps the town. (as opposed to scum.)

It helps town because it gives them information to plan around. Puts us closer to even footing with scum imo.

[Pine]

Oh hey, EP just told me that rating Nahdia pretty low is a good idea.

(Not in the real SUPP tho, she’s pretty awesome, even if she’s a damnable squirrel)