Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 2.41:

Creature (3): TPFKAP, The Worst, WhemeStar
TPFKAP (2): randomidget, Nancy Drew 39
Shoshin (1): Reality Check
The Worst (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
Reality Check (0):
NicoRobin (0):
randomidget (0):
Princess of Renais (0):
WhemeStar (0):
ArcAngel9 (0):
Joral (0):

Not voting: Scioness Sajj, Vartsun, Shoshin, NicoRobin, Princess of Renais, Creature, ArcAngel9, Joral

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-25 12:00:00).

[Shoshin]

I haven't read anything since the start of D2 (if anyone wants to summarize for me that'd be great) I'm having trouble getting into this game. I'll try making some time eventually to read and figure out where I'm at with my reads but don't have it in me at the moment. I'm fairly confident Nancy is town based on D1 - that's about it - if anyone wants to talk with me about things in real time I'm around at the moment.

[Scioness Sajj]

You should read the thread, beside some quote walls most are 1 line posts. And RC had some import-ish posts.

Reality scumreads you, Nancy does not. Nico claims role related clear on Nancy, Midget has a grudge against Nico. Just read a thread honestly.

[WhemeStar]

SHOSHIN|/CREATURE/RANDOMMIDGET/???

[Shoshin]

VOTE: creature

ty 4 bus

I lol'd at this too lol

[Shoshin]

How many scum should we expect in a 15 player game?

[Shoshin]

Random's response to Nico doesn't feel natural at all, almost like he's upset that we're confirming townies. I'd lynch him for that alone.

Creature needs to hang for obvious reasons.

[Shoshin]

Sajj, what're your reads?

[Randomnamechange]

Random's response to Nico doesn't feel natural at all, almost like he's upset that we're confirming townies. I'd lynch him for that alone.

Creature needs to hang for obvious reasons.

ok yeah this misrep is dire

[Shoshin]

Random's response to Nico doesn't feel natural at all, almost like he's upset that we're confirming townies. I'd lynch him for that alone.

Creature needs to hang for obvious reasons.

ok yeah this misrep is dire

I didn't misrep anything - your reaction to Nico was hostile (do you deny this?) - and I have a tough time understanding why you reacted as strongly as you did (i.e. it felt unnatural). I also interpreted this as betraying a certain degree of frustration, frustration that doesn't make much sense from a town perspective (why would town get so upset over a player confirming another player via role mechanics?) but makes a lot of sense from a scum perspective because scum don't like it when players confirm townies as town...

[Shoshin]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 1.33:

Creature (4): Vartsun, TPFKAP, Shoshin, WhemeStar
TPFKAP (3): Creature, Randomidget, Nancy Drew 39
NicoRobin (2): ArcAngel9, Princess of Renais
Princess of Renais (1): TehBrawlGuy, Joral
ArcAngel9 (0):
Shoshin (0):
WhemeStar (0):
Joral (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Vartsun (0):
TehBrawlGuy (0):
Randomidget (0):


Not voting: NicoRobin

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-07 15:00:00).

Wheme I'm gonna need an explanation for why you switched wagons then switched back when Creature is 150,000% obviously playing in his scum meta. I've seen you correctly identify this before and wagon him with fire, why the flipflopping yday?


also gonna need commentary from the following players on why the fuck they voted off-wagon yesterday, and also what their experience playing with creature is. i will be fact checking this
: - randomidget
: - nancy drew 39
: - arcangel9
: - princess of renais
: - nico robin [who I know has seen creature's scum meta firsthand, and did not bus him there]

i feel like creature was playing to his scum meta but he didnt care that he was? i think that he would at least have bothered to bullshit some reads towards the end of the day as scum.

Also, I am over the last day too. So anyone who wants to lynch Nancy will have to go through me first. So bring it on, nerdz.

sounds good.
VOTE: nicorobin
i'm not letting them get away with not playing the game.

btw guys anyone who votes me is scum
no evidence for it or anything
they just are

YoU hAvE bEeN wArNeD

also to clarify i have a hard townread on nancy
i just refuse to allow nico to get away with this bullshit

TIL being a PR in a role madness game lets you not play the game.

why do you even play mafia if you dont want to play mafia
unless its a post restriction or some shit, it still doesnt excuse refusing to post any content.

*refuses to vote in lylo*
*blames other people for not flipping someone*

i dont have a problem with you not having reads. i have a problem with you refusing to post any game related content.

Nancy, thoughts on Random?

[Randomnamechange]

Random's response to Nico doesn't feel natural at all, almost like he's upset that we're confirming townies. I'd lynch him for that alone.

Creature needs to hang for obvious reasons.

ok yeah this misrep is dire

I didn't misrep anything - your reaction to Nico was hostile (do you deny this?) - and I have a tough time understanding why you reacted as strongly as you did (i.e. it felt unnatural). I also interpreted this as betraying a certain degree of frustration, frustration that doesn't make much sense from a town perspective (why would town get so upset over a player confirming another player via role mechanics?) but makes a lot of sense from a scum perspective because scum don't like it when players confirm townies as town...

it was before they softed the inno on nancy

[NicoRobin]

Nope, it was after that. I first made such a declaration in post 812, and you reacted negatively to that. I had to hammer it into you for you to stop, and even then you kept making passive-agressive comments.....

[Randomnamechange]

i started complaining on day 1

[Shoshin]

i started complaining on day 1

This arguably makes Random even scummier... Scum often struggle to revise reads in light of new information because they're focused on keeping reads/behaviors consistent... and that would explain Random's unnatural hostility... Thoughts?

[the worst]

It's far better to work around weaktown or useless town than worry about it

Even if they're scum, just lynch all their buddies.

Even if all scum are among the useless players, that will be really obvious really quick, and I don't get that sense here.

Nice.

[Shoshin]

The Worst, tell me about Sajj (you've dodged this long enough) and thoughts on Random/Reality too, please.

[the worst]

the worst is mostly scary because he holds towns together (which makes him a priority NK if a situation like multiple competent towns that can't work together normally are in the game). I don't know about his reads personally, but his read accurate probably isn't quite on par if I had to guess.

i am becom glue
my reads are better than random and improve late game!

[the worst]

That's why while I believe everyone that Creature is probably scum this game due to meta (I don't personally look to that myself, I just sheep on it), I don't believe lynching him this early is necessarily pro-town.

If he flips scum PR that puts his buddies at awkwardly defending him d1

If he doesn't it gives us leads

How is it better to roll the dice outside of Creature?

[the worst]

See now, if you want to avoid that, you are going about it the wrong way, for those kinds of comments only make the baby with power want to do it more, because the baby with power would think you are trying to talk the babywith power from doing it because you are actual scum and as stated above, you don't fear most of the players catching you on wits alone.

Investigate Vartsun always

[Reality Check]

Creature is OK but I don't think that flip gives much of any info without another scum flip.

The thing about lynches like that is they're traps if the gamestate is one where most of town is pretty deep and only a couple are being competent

It's not necessarily what's going on here but it begs the question of now necessary it is to eliminate that quickly when there's a similar scum equity lynch with far more information attached.

[NicoRobin]

See now, if you want to avoid that, you are going about it the wrong way, for those kinds of comments only make the baby with power want to do it more, because the baby with power would think you are trying to talk the babywith power from doing it because you are actual scum and as stated above, you don't fear most of the players catching you on wits alone.

Investigate Vartsun always

The baby with power has decided on either Reality Check or randomidget

[Reality Check]

sigh

worst can you comment on why investigating this slot is a bad idea

[the worst]

Random's response to Nico doesn't feel natural at all, almost like he's upset that we're confirming townies. I'd lynch him for that alone.

Creature needs to hang for obvious reasons.

ok yeah this misrep is dire

[the worst]

The Worst, tell me about Sajj (you've dodged this long enough) and thoughts on Random/Reality too, please.

later maybe
Why so focused on Sajj?