Micro 810: lovers mafia BTMPWTMAATSGATAPSIAWT [game over]

[Pine]

That's....waaay too scummy to be scumDino

Also provable randomness is usually illegal?

[Mathdino]

it's specifically legal for the set of lovers mafia games

lovers mafia is broken by randomness 60% of the time

in other words, lynching randomly produces a higher town EV than the actual town winrate for this setup and setups like it

so really i was just watching people run around hoping to PoE one townread out of the list so i could RNG it

[Mathdino]

i probably would've waited a bit if i randed on redflavor, i wanted to PoE him out but he didn't answer my questions for some reason

anyway yeah lovers mafia is a meme of a game and RNGing it is part of the meme

check marathon weekend, in which every single time i rolled the dice and town lynched the dice roll, town won
this includes the time where i was scum and rolled the 20% chance that it would land on my partner

[Mathdino]

and 70% just means that if you know one person is town (aka me) town has a 70% EV using provable randomness

given that no one is strongly townreading ausuka, i don't see any reason to resist this lynch

if anyone (mostly talking to ausuka) has any strong townreads to remove from tomorrow's roll (OBLIGATORY "IF TOMORROW EVEN COMES"), lemme know

[Pine]

Oh

Okay then! I didn't know those things

I was already on Ausuka, so you're welcome to join.

[Mathdino]

why are you on redflavor

[Not_Mafia]

Mos pls modkill Mathdino for using provable randomness

[RedFlavor]

I think Ausuka's voted are opportunistic in a town way

[Ausuka]

I have a very strong townread on Ausuka.

[Ausuka]

For real though idk what to post. NM was requested but he's been kinda towny? so I think alignments were randomized. My gut says it's pine/math but not sure both scum would vote me? Nico has literally done nothing so probably her and one of those two. Or xy went full bastard and did something like "moderator is the scum" or even "nsg is scum" as a meme. I think redflavor is town.

[Pine]

why are you on redflavor

Because I am forgetful.

VOTE: Ausuka

[xyzzy]

provable randomness is totally acceptable and also a fun way to guarantee you win the game*

*results not guaranteed but try it anyway if you're not a coward

[Mathdino]

i have literally never lost as town by using randomness in this game

i have however lost as scum by trying to use randomness and lynching my partner
rip

those not sheeping me are scum

[Pine]

Honestly it's a pretty solid scum strategy. You have an 80% chance of having an unassailable vote on Town.

I think you believe in it though, which is what matters.

[Mathdino]

The person rolling the dice always has a 70% chance of winning by rolling the dice twice in a row. Regardless of their alignment.

I was hoping to get one townread to at least make you guys more comfortable with it. If I correctly bloc out one town (and leave myself out), town-me has a 83% chance of winning, while scum-me has only a 50% chance of winning (not odds I would take when I could just win conventionally).

I guess Red counts as that one townread? I wish he answered my questions :/

[xyzzy]

game 1, votecount 1.05

3 players voting for Ausuka (NicoRobin, Mathdino, Pine)
2 players voting for NicoRobin (Ausuka, Not_Mafia)
1 player voting for Not_Mafia (RedFlavor)

0 players not voting

with 6 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

as of this votecount, you have (expired on 2018-06-16 01:00:00).

mod notes: *casually checks out activity overview to see if anyone has to be prodded*

[Mathdino]

Mfw redflavor not onwagon

[xyzzy]

game 1, votecount 1.06

3 players voting for Ausuka (NicoRobin, Mathdino, Pine)
2 players voting for NicoRobin (Ausuka, Not_Mafia)
1 player voting for Not_Mafia (RedFlavor)

0 players not voting

with 6 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

as of this votecount, you have (expired on 2018-06-16 01:00:00).

mod notes: as a reminder, if you don't lynch someone by deadline, each town player will lose half a point. you don't want that, do you?

[Pine]

I'm willing to compromise. Nico is not an optimal lynch, but it's better than nothing.

[Mathdino]

I'm not willing to compromise at all. Get the fuck in here and lynch Ausuka ffs.

[Not_Mafia]

Why Ausuka?

[Pine]

I'm not willing to compromise at all. Get the fuck in here and lynch Ausuka ffs.

Kinda want to lynch Math for this. Unwillingness to compromise is not sitting well with me.

[Pine]

I'm not willing to compromise at all. Get the fuck in here and lynch Ausuka ffs.

Kinda want to lynch Math for this. Unwillingness to compromise is not sitting well with me.

Obv talking about D2, not a flashwagon with no time left.

[Mathdino]

Screw that. Compromise lynches are fundamentally non-random. The only way they can go through is if scum agree to be a part of it. Unless there's the rare situation in which all players available to compromise are town and somehow the lynch is on town.
In other words, in asking me to compromise on Nico, you're asking me to believe that the entire town is {Ausuka, N_M, Pine, Mathdino}.

No, if Nico is possible to lynch, that heavily indicates town to me.

Non-random lynches in this setup are HIGHLY likely to land on town because of that extra control scum have, given that they can just stonewall a lynch.

I want my random lynch. N_M not hammering is problematic as fuck.

[Not_Mafia]

Oh yeah the random thing

Random lynching is against the spirit of the game, we might as well just not play