Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Alchemist is usingIn post 4899, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
????In post 4898, Punreader wrote:
And this is a terrible misrep of the VCA. I used it precisely twice; there were far more points than that I raised in the VCA.In post 4897, Alchemist21 wrote:Pun’s VCA assumes scum are all doing the same thing. “If 2, why not 3” was used more than once and it’s based on a flawed assumption imo.
Sorry but alchemist's point is a very fair one, the points where you said "if 2, why not 3" fit your theory of davesaz and/or alchemist scum, when in reality when do scum ever all do the same thing in regards to voting.one pointI made twice in the VCA to dismissall ofthe VCA as flawed.
That is what I mean by him making a terrible misrep of the VCA.
I could go into the theory of all-town lynches and why they do happen on occasion and why I felt that this was particularly likely to be the case (in fact, I can cite none other than RadiantCowbells from this very game for why the Wraith wagon in particular was likely to be all-town), if I were in a more argumentative mood and wanted to defend that point in the VCA.
But while I could do that, that's not my issue. Alchemist21 wrote off the VCA as invalid because of that one point I used twice, when the VCA used far more than that one point.Let me give an Alternative perspective.-
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Ankamius Survivor
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In post 4811, Ankamius wrote:imagine you have a scumteam of three players
one of which is a good scum player and is a sinking ship because of it on top of his predecessor's play
one of which is a claimed investigative and is also a sinking ship, also with general suspicion that there's an investigative that is scum due to setup
one of which has a pseudo-guilty and is a sinking ship
the second is put into a spot where they're very likely to be confscum
the first is unlikely to make it more than a couple days
now
assuming that davesaz is confirmed joining the neighborhood, then there's a choice
1. try to clear both davesaz and mariar
2. sacrifice mariar to clear davesaz
here's the issue
mariar is far more likely to be caught than davesaz due to the setup.
punreader is competent at setup spec, which wasprovenon day two by dead town.
punreader cannot be directly killed.
therefore, it's risky to try to clear mariar to the end of the game.
NOW
ifdavesazis solo cleared
then his role by itself isn't scum-indicative by itself
the pseudo-guilty is vague enough to not be scum-indicative by itself
it's a lot easier to accept one mostly-scumread slot being cleared than two
it's a lot less weird that one 'conftown' reaches lylo than two
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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No amount of fake "evidence" is going to change the fact that I'm town.
VOTE: punreader
This is scum making a valiant last ditch effort to mislynch someone, anyone.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Ankamius Survivor
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kaedeIn post 4818, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Then what's your path to autowin?In post 4817, Ankamius wrote:
the time to disrupt correct town blocs was 2 or 3 days agoIn post 4815, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:That being said Ank, if you're scum you're in the same dilemma where you need to survive on your own until LyLo and disrupting potential correct town blocs forming is one way to do it.
OTOH, if you're town it makes sense for you to not want scum to be in a potential town bloc and wanna cover all your bases.
I think this day's gonna turn out more interesting than I thought.
not now
I'm not good at executing scumplans, but I'm also well aware of how disgustingly powerful all-town townblocks are (look at Necromancer mini theme, that game was a near guaranteed town win on day two because of the bloc)
if my scumteam was going down, I'd be looking to solidify my position somewhere sooner rather than later
waiting three entire day phases after the rest of my scumteam goes down and THEN trying to disrupt the townblock doesn't work-
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Your post sure is!In post 4904, davesaz wrote:This is scum making a valiant last ditch effort to mislynch someone, anyone.Let me give an Alternative perspective.-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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If punreader is scum he's made a valuable contribution to the annihilation of his entire team.In post 4904, davesaz wrote:No amount of fake "evidence" is going to change the fact that I'm town.
VOTE: punreader
This is scum making a valiant last ditch effort to mislynch someone, anyone.
He's not being lynched today (albeit not never)Back to my old main for now
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Ankamius Survivor
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you're townIn post 4819, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Assume for a moment that davesaz is town, you need to ensure we eventually lynch scum by avoiding lynching town.
wilky is town
punreader is town (I know who pun is and I know enough about how they play to be able to state confidently that they don't have the reads they do here as scum, I'd rather not go further into this if I don't absolutely have to)
yt looks a lot better (the question to him was a test, he reacted the way I would've expected town to)
alchemist21 is a stale townread
realmen idk, the confidentish townread on me really bugs me because this game is within my scumrange
kokichi idk, I don't even remember why I was townreading that slot anymore
dunnstral idk, all I remember about this slot is that I could see it being scum with Vent back on day one
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Ankamius Survivor
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VOTE: davesazIn post 4904, davesaz wrote:No amount of fake "evidence" is going to change the fact that I'm town.
VOTE: punreader
This is scum making a valiant last ditch effort to mislynch someone, anyone.-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Ankamius Survivor
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I mean there can at best be 1-2 scum remaining.
People dont want to cooperate with conf town by helping me figure out stuff.
Most of the "But what ifs" is like "BECAUSE IM RIGHT", that's the feel I get, and it's getting tiring, im starting to think this isnt worth the effort at this point.Back to my old main for now
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Ankamius Survivor
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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VOTE: AnkamiusWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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not why pun is town, more why dave is scum. Why is alchemist scum, why is literally anybody scum.
Why should i trust pun's VCA even if he's town.
Why should i trust your theory of dave being scum.
Why should i trust dunn's scumread of alchemist.
I feel like the more you guys try to push me to vote somewhere the less trust i have on you.
And that my comments have fallen on deaf ears only to push everyone's individual agendas.
Of course everyone wants to be right, but all I care about is solving this fricking game.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Ankamius Survivor
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Umm, no I'm claiming conftown.In post 4920, Ankamius wrote:well, technically davesaz basically scumclaimed, I just didn't mention that since I know that's not exactly convincing coming from me in this game
WTF are you talking about?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If you want help solving, you need to tell these yammerheads to shut up about there even being the slightest possibility of me being scum.In post 4918, Kaede Akamatsu wrote: Of course everyone wants to be right, but all I care about is solving this fricking game.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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