Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[Gorrad]

I don't have a huge problem with the hammer, that's why. It's a bad sign, but not really worth mentioning. He was impatient or scum, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in this one.

[Greasy Spot]

Sorry for my absence, I am currently running a Mish Mash HAGGLE Game that is taking a lot of my time.

- GS: Makes a "slip" (I don't trust slip as scumtells), defends himself against the slip accusations,

GS for his slip, which has been covered (I still can't see how that can be interpretted as he claims),

I can't believe you guys are still hounding over this. We discussed all this earlier and I thought I made it clear. There was no slip. It was post 31 in the joke phase and that's all it was.

I would have like to have been able to post during that time frame, and would also like to post more in the game in general, but I haven't much time. I would have preferred giving zombie more time, maybe we could have convinced him to claim.

You knew where the votes were at. You could have made a point to be here if you were really that worried.

[mikeburnfire]

Vote Count!
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

6 Greasy Spot (windkirby, Kison, PyroDwarf, hasdgfas, Blazerunner, Gorrad)
5 JDodge (windkirby, Kison, Gorrad, PyroDwarf, Blazerunner)
5 Gorrad (JDodge, UROE, armlx, hasdgfas, Claus)
3 Claus (UROE, PyroDwarf, Blazerunner)
3 Sonickid (JDodge, UROE, Gorrad)
2 JamesThePhox (GhostWriter, Xdaamno)
2 Kison (JDodge, GhostWriter)
1 Blazerunner (hasdgfas)
1 hasdgfas (GhostWriter)
1 armlx (Xdaamno)
1 Xdaamno (JDodge)
1 GhostWriter (Claus)
Not voting: JamesThePhox, UltimaAvalon, Greasy Spot, sonickid01, skitzer,

[PyroDwarf]

its called work. I'm not gonna call in sick to play mafia.

[Blazerunner]

Hey people, I am going on a travel right now and will only be back by monday/tuesday... Sorry for being missing of the game (but the game

was

slow anyway)... I hope when I come back I can post more, as right now this is the only game I am alive in

[mikeburnfire]

Ding Dong!

It's noon! The halfway mark! Deadline is set at May 6, Tuesday at 11:59 PM EST.

[JamesThePhox]

No one has talked since the placement of the deadline.

Vote: Greasy Spot

for the hammer of the Purple Pikmin, ZS. And for other past scum vibes.

I'll be busy this week, Mod. Don't replace me, please.

[Gorrad]

L-2. GS, I'd claim if I were you.

[Kison]

I don't see myself unvoting GS.


4 Claus (UROE, PyroDwarf, Blazerunner)

I think that's suppose to be three, unless I'm missing something here.

Fixed!

[Claus]

Really? I have re-read your posts and it seems that your vote is in GS for:

- The "you pikmin" slip (this was why your vote was stuck on him the whole day, and it is a really weak (non-)reason).
- The hammer (which is not that bad, GS has given a decent explanation, and all you can say in return is "you could have killed a powerrole. That seems like scum trying to push for a townies death with silly reasoning).

Is that all? Is that enough? Why is your vote not on Gorrad or GW?

[Claus]

EBWOP - "This is why your vote was stuck on him the whole _Day 1_"

[Kison]

Well, my friend, you didn't read my posts too closely.

My GS vote day one was a random vote. I took it off very shortly afterwards and didn't even vote him again until Day Two.

Yes, I did give him some heat over the "slip," but as I explained it was to gauge his reaction. No vote there.

I do find the hammering to be a fairly big deal. When I was catching up reading what happened, Zombie, to me, seemed not to understand the importance of roleclaiming. It wasn't like several days went by with continued refusal to claim. That, on top of the fact I thought the wagon was pretty poorly founded to begin with, Greasy popping out of nowhere without even contributing to the discussion to lay down the hammer definitely killed the chicken. Um, yeah, that's a pretty terrible maneuver.

Gorrad hasn't particularly pinged my radar, but I'll gladly take another look at him tomorrow.

Ghost Writer... I almost forgot about you. Looking back, ignored one of my questions and completely vanished as I was distracted fighting with JDodge. So

Vote : Ghost Writer

until he answers. *cracks whip*

[Claus]

My GS vote day one was a random vote. I took it off very shortly afterwards and didn't even vote him again until Day Two.

True that. my bad. I need some new glasses.

I do find the hammering to be a fairly big deal. (...) That, on top of the fact I thought the wagon was pretty poorly founded to begin with,

Hmmm, did you? These are your last posts before the end of day 1:

You're going to want to explain why you found each individual suspicious. Swapping votes suddenly without commenting on it is, well, not good.

To everyone else : He's at L-1.

Zombie, even if you have absolutely nothing new to add(which is complete BS - you could find something if you tried), stating why you agree with what someone else says/does is helpful because it binds you to that statement. You can't then later on say, "oh, well, it sounded convincing at the time" or present some other lame cop-out because you clearly stated your reason for your vote switch. I think what you did warranted some votes.

This does not sound like someone protesting against a poorly founded wagon.

Greasy popping out of nowhere without even contributing to the discussion to lay down the hammer definitely killed the chicken. Um, yeah, that's a pretty terrible maneuver.

This is where I don't like your sole push for GS. Between L-1 and the hammer, GW, Gorrad and Flameaxe all posted. Any of them could have unvoted, but by not doing it, they were just as responsible for the hammer as GS was. You have explained GW and Gorrad. Why is your vote not on Flameaxe then, if you think hammering was such a big deal?

Vote: Kison

[Claus]

Forget about flameaxe, I'm a stupid pikmin.

unvote: Kison

[Kison]

This does not sound like someone protesting against a poorly founded wagon.

I'm not saying the votes were unjustified, Claus. I'm saying that reason for the votes did not warrant a wagon of that magnitude(L-1), and definitely not a lynch. The problem is that the D1 votes-to-lynch requirement was decreased, so putting him at L-1 presumably was not as deliberate as Greasy's hammer.

[sonickid01]

I'll be leaving today for another week-long trip in about an hour. But that's the last time I'll be away from home for a while, thankfully. I'll make a short post with whatever I can type in a few minutes.

Why are we still going on about the "you pikmin" thing? I honestly believe it was no more than a joke and some paranoia. Granted, I don't have a whole lot of mafia experience, but can anyone tell me any game in which a similar thing has happened and the person turned out to be scum?

[Claus]

I think we are still going on the "you pikmin" stuff because, if/when GS turns out to be town (as I believe he will), those who used this accusation to accuse him on D1/D2 will have a very high probability of being scum (as per attack due to craplogic).

Take care on your trip.

[Gorrad]

I'll be leaving today for another week-long trip in about an hour. But that's the last time I'll be away from home for a while, thankfully. I'll make a short post with whatever I can type in a few minutes.

Why are we still going on about the "you pikmin" thing? I honestly believe it was no more than a joke and some paranoia. Granted, I don't have a whole lot of mafia experience, but can anyone tell me any game in which a similar thing has happened and the person turned out to be scum?

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 699#927699

[Greasy Spot]

No one has talked since the placement of the deadline.

Vote: Greasy Spot

for the hammer of the Purple Pikmin, ZS. And for other past scum vibes.

I'll be busy this week, Mod. Don't replace me, please.

Phox, you also voted for ZS and never removed your vote. Very hypocritical to have your vote on ZS and call me out for voting him too.

The same goes for Gorrad. You also voted ZS but failed to remove your vote from even after stating to everyone that he was at L-1.

So no I will not claim until I here valid reasons from every member on my bandwagon.

[armlx]

I support GS's stance here. The wagon is pretty BS'y IMO.

[JDodge]

Claus is so awesome.

[Gorrad]

No one has talked since the placement of the deadline.

Vote: Greasy Spot

for the hammer of the Purple Pikmin, ZS. And for other past scum vibes.

I'll be busy this week, Mod. Don't replace me, please.

Phox, you also voted for ZS and never removed your vote. Very hypocritical to have your vote on ZS and call me out for voting him too.

The same goes for Gorrad. You also voted ZS but failed to remove your vote from even after stating to everyone that he was at L-1.

So no I will not claim until I here valid reasons from every member on my bandwagon.

I believe I've already said I don't have a huge problem with the hammer. I'd have liked to hear a claim first, but one wasn't looking likely. That said, I simply cannot see his 'slip' the way he's claiming to have said it. It makes no sense to me that way.

[Kison]

Gorrad, you argued the exact opposite when you were accused of possibly slipping in Uprising(and strangely enough you are using the same game that was used against you there as an example here). Why the sudden change of heart?

[Gorrad]

Simple. In Uprising, my 'slip' was clarified and accepted by the town. I was able to explain it in a way that made everyone undersand and accept what I meant. Here, I cannot possibly see his slip in the light he's trying to show it in.

[Kison]

Simple. In Uprising, my 'slip' was clarified and accepted by the town. I was able to explain it in a way that made everyone undersand and accept what I meant. Here, I cannot possibly see his slip in the light he's trying to show it in.

Did you not read the exchange between JDodge and me back during Day One?

You are a person. If you're pissed at a group of people, you could say, "You people are pissing me off."
Assume GS is a Pikmin. He says, "You Pikmin are stupid."

Doesn't mean he didn't mean it the other way, but I don't see how you can't see

that

possibility.

Also, if you were so sold on this slip being unexplainable any other way, why did you swap votes to Zombie, who, from your perspective, would have had a much lower chance of being scum?