Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Yuurei]

ah right forgot about that

more likely a vig then

let me reread vecna again and see what i think about that

no, the thing is, maybe it's not a vig either. I'll not point out who, but they have made a crumb that makes having a vigilante here really little sense.

I've a crazy theory but ohh welll, let's not go there yet, too much of a hassle I guess.

[Yuurei]

wait, why am I discussing things with Theta...

Theta my buddy, can you self vote and help me here?

thanks

[Theta Alpine]

okay i am up for a vecna lynch

VOTE: vecna
you have been pushing for a few mislynches throughout the game including tgp

p-edit
huh
you know the thought of maybe scum have two nightkills actually crossed my mind
tgp would have been a great cover shot for that ability

p-edit2
if you had asked me yesterday i would have said yes
now that we have had flips though town can recover so it would be against my wincon to self-vote

[Yuurei]

okay i am up for a vecna lynch

VOTE: vecna
you have been pushing for a few mislynches throughout the game including tgp

you realize that you and like, all of us, were scum reading TGP right?

You realize as well that you voted on Luna and even gave intent to hammer before right?

so like, question time is

why the hell are you scum reading Vecna for that if a lot of people have done the same thing including you. Plus, the most amusing thing to me is not that you're voting Vecna here, but that you're ONLY pushing that slot when there's people that did the same things and you HAVE NOT EVEN A MENTION OF VECNA IN YOUR ISO BEFORE. But now a wagon is on Vecna and you show up here again magically saying "yeah guys, that thing is flipping scum, sure" as you did with Luna. It seems you did the same thing with hewhoswims and TGP as well, calling them scum when there was a consensus of calling them scum.

For all that's holy how are you town here Theta?

But well, I don't care anymore, you guys can lynch Vecna I guess. It's not that bad of a lynch but you know, Vecna was the one to begin talking about there being werewolves in town. That is the kind of information that I don't see werewolves sharing at all so that's one point for the slot.

[Aronis]

oh, and of course I'm still voting here

VOTE: Theta Alpine

I don't think this is scum considering the luna flip

VOTE: Vecna
I don't really know the case on this one, but I wanna see where it goes since I have no better ideas.

Come on Nos, you're better than this. He isn't scum

[Aronis]

Tbh I'd probably kill theta if that gains steam

[Nosferatu]

arguably correct

what's your suggestion?

[Yuurei]

wait Nosferatu, by saying that "I don't think that this is scum after the Luna flip", do you mean me or Theta?

and why specifically if it's Theta because I'm not seeing it.

[Aronis]

arguably correct

what's your suggestion?

Get off the vecna wagon and pick somebody else to vote. Preferably a scum player

You had cheeky low on your list, I won't complain if you vote them

[Aronis]

Also does anybody happen to feel lethargic?

[Yuurei]

Mathblade if your vote doesnt land on luna in the next 24 hours im doing everything in my power to get you lynched today you drunk scumbucket

My working theory/wildly crazy moonlogic is that Mathblade / Ankamius / TGP are scum, together with someone else (potentially creature). Now let this flip town to confirm my suspicions.

wait a moment, I admit that I hadn't read some pages of the game at all but...

was reviewing things now and woah, these post are as bad as Theta's posts.

and look, Theta posts are pretty bad.

I'll read more but yeah, I can see the you guys point.

Although I need to say that it sounds more like crazy town that doesn't care if they will look bad or not and just are focusing in scum hunting?

scum already have all the information therefore have way better odds of looking better at the flips or actions

[Yuurei]

I mean, he wants Math to vote in Luna and when Luna flipped town he wants to scum read Math.

Like, someone help me here understand this please

[Aronis]

Mathblade if your vote doesnt land on luna in the next 24 hours im doing everything in my power to get you lynched today you drunk scumbucket

My working theory/wildly crazy moonlogic is that Mathblade / Ankamius / TGP are scum, together with someone else (potentially creature). Now let this flip town to confirm my suspicions.

wait a moment, I admit that I hadn't read some pages of the game at all but...

was reviewing things now and woah, these post are as bad as Theta's posts.

and look, Theta posts are pretty bad.

I'll read more but yeah, I can see the you guys point.

Although I need to say that it sounds more like crazy town that doesn't care if they will look bad or not and just are focusing in scum hunting?

scum already have all the information therefore have way better odds of looking better at the flips or actions

What are you talking about? Those posts are A+
He literally just pegged at least 2 scum right there, maybe 3

[Aronis]

Hell he might've gotten all four

[Yuurei]

Hell he might've gotten all four

wot

wait wait wait wait

how the hell can he have pegged four if TGP already flipped town?

and for what exactly he scum read Creature for?

I mean, I've problem seeing scum!Creature doing all the post of #677 to #685 and a couple of other things as well

Aronis, are you reading the game?

answer honestly.

[Yuurei]

no wait, how do you know that there is exactly four scum Aronis?

[Aronis]

TGP might be been a scum death godfather. It's possible

And creature hasn't done anything particularly townie, stop imagining things

[Yuurei]

no, I'm more interested in hearing why you thought of the scumteam as exactly four people.

[Aronis]

no wait, how do you know that there is exactly four scum Aronis?

This is common sense. I've balanced enough games to know that 3:1 is a pretty good town to scum ratio that you aim for. Take for instance 13 player games, they will almost always be 10:3, a 3.3:1 ratio, very close to 3:1. With an 18 player game a 14:4 ratio equates to 3.5:1 and you're way more likely to throw an extra player or two on the town side. An extra scum is way more game changing than an extra town, so you'll go with the less swinging option of a couple of bonus VTs here.

This is mafia game design 101

[Theta Alpine]

um no

extra night kills throws that off

[Aronis]

Go try to get a game that's 9:4 or 13:5 past the normal review group. They won't let it fly unless town has some serious power and scum are very weak. If you keep it 14:4 It allows for a better game. Both sides have power roles this way and aren't completely fucked if an important guy dies because they can still win with dayplay.

And with 2 town PRs dead, I dont see a 15:3 being a real possibility. Nobody wants to play that anyways.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Yuurei

[Aronis]

um no

extra night kills throws that off

Come talk to me once you've played 50+ games and modded before

Until then idgaf what you think on this subject

[Yuurei]

ok, Aronis, question time

do you want to talk me through what you are up to in this game or something?

I mulling over it but I'm beginning to think that you're a even better lynch than Theta for a lot of reasons.

[Aronis]

Do you think I care what you think? If I did I probably wouldn't be voting you and trying to get you killed.

Like there is two scenarios here:
A. You're really bad at this game
B. You're scum

In both instances I'm best off putting zero weight into your opinions. At this point all you're gonna do with your questions is set me up for another 'scumslip'