In post 539, Aronis wrote:I feel like if you have to have the mod announce you're town, you're probably not town. If you were really town it'd be obvious from your behavior
what
I feel like if you can't understand that post, you're scum. If you were town it'd be obvious what I'm saying because then we'd both be town and thinking alike. But since you don't get it, we can't both be the same alignment and since I'm town, you must not be.
In post 545, Aronis wrote:In this instance it's TvS and you're scum. I'm not saying it's always like that.
And ffs lie detectors are in like 1/50 games. Stop acting like thats a plausible reason for those dumb posts. Besides you don't need to have the mod post that if you're just doing it for a lie detector. It's an attempt by scum to confuse a poor lost townie into thinking they're an IC and I will not stand for that trickery
I just did it because I was told to and I'm obedient.
Tbh I feel like you're the Jim Gilmore of this election. You're pulling in no votes, nobody wants to debate you, and when I Google you I have to scroll to the bottom of the second page to find anything about you because you're that irrelevant. yet you're still around and running long past when you should've been.
Tldr I don't care
What actually comes up when you Google "mutantdevle"? Because I see various different accounts I've created on different things over the years. If so, your analogy/metaphor doesn't work.
But as I've said multiple times, my party PT contains / will contain my documentation and working towards the district placements. I'm not losing it. Plus, I like the ability to make crier posts. So shush you. You'd understand if you had your own shiny PT and crier ability.
In post 539, Aronis wrote:I feel like if you have to have the mod announce you're town, you're probably not town. If you were really town it'd be obvious from your behavior
what
I feel like if you can't understand that post, you're scum. If you were town it'd be obvious what I'm saying because then we'd both be town and thinking alike. But since you don't get it, we can't both be the same alignment and since I'm town, you must not be.
In post 545, Aronis wrote:In this instance it's TvS and you're scum. I'm not saying it's always like that.
And ffs lie detectors are in like 1/50 games. Stop acting like thats a plausible reason for those dumb posts. Besides you don't need to have the mod post that if you're just doing it for a lie detector. It's an attempt by scum to confuse a poor lost townie into thinking they're an IC and I will not stand for that trickery
I just did it because I was told to and I'm obedient.
Tbh I feel like you're the Jim Gilmore of this election. You're pulling in no votes, nobody wants to debate you, and when I Google you I have to scroll to the bottom of the second page to find anything about you because you're that irrelevant. yet you're still around and running long past when you should've been.
Tldr I don't care
What actually comes up when you Google "mutantdevle"? Because I see various different accounts I've created on different things over the years. If so, your analogy/metaphor doesn't work.
But as I've said multiple times, my party PT contains / will contain my documentation and working towards the district placements. I'm not losing it. Plus, I like the ability to make crier posts. So shush you. You'd understand if you had your own shiny PT and crier ability.
Okay gj your ms account is only halfway down the first page. You can be someone else idc
And lol. Good point. I might make a party just for the sake of my personal PT
Personally, I'd encourage anyone who doesn't like any of the current parties to form their own. Not for campaigning though.
2 benefits I can list off the top of my head is that you get a PT to document your thoughts and if any PRs decide to out information using the crier ability then the more party leaders we have the harder it will be for scum to work out who sent it.
Ruby Red - I know who she is and I'm pretty sure this isn't her scum meta? I almost always misread her but I'm pretty sure she doesn't start the game like this as scum.
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Fighting Dreamers - reading the RANDOM CAPITALIZATION is a pain, but I like the party tenets. From her opening, I think that ruby is more likely than not town but I don't see her defining an actionable way of achieving her campaign promise of 'day1 scum lynch', whereas Dreamers are explaining how they want to run the party and use it to find scum.
Mutant - 35 feels kinda LAMIST imo. Like you're inherently in a conflict over who gets to become president, and you're appealing to her to work with you 'for the benefit of town'- how does one do that in this context? It feels like a nice thing to say but I'm not really sure what you were expecting from her in response there.
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Mutant - 51 - Actually I take that back, that's a lot more nuanced than the previous post. Do you really think that people would try to lynch political opponents over scum though? I think that most people are probably cognizant of the fact that the goal of the game is to lynch scum and not opposing candidates. Or at least, I wouldn't vote someone to be president if they were planning on murdering their political opponents just because they oppose them, as that doesn't help win the game. I think that people probably wouldn't run on that platform because it wouldn't get them elected.
Fighting dreamers - 52 - wait, why is invisibility townreading you a good reason to join your party? Do they have a good track record of reading you?
Mutant - 63 - I like the nonchalance of shrugging off the scumread
NK15 - 72 - I think that theoretically I like this idea. I think that implementing it practically is difficult, as people presumably joined the game in order to enjoy the gerrymandering/voting mechanics, and wouldn't want to use them to turn the game into a proxy for a regular mafia game. Also I think that town is a lot more likely to lol-deviate from the stated plan than scum because scum would be hyper-cognizant of doing something that makes them look sketchy when the 'sketchy' things are delineated so clearly, and town would just do whatever they want (and sometimes do it just to spite the rules).
Spoiler: pages 4-5
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NK15 - 78 - I think this plan (and this post) comes from town though? I don't think that scum demands that everyone follows the rules that he laid like this; it's too confrontational imo given that I don't think most people would be interested in going along with it. Like he's just laying down what he expects to happen when it probably just won't so it exhibits a certain cluelessness of the gamestate that I feel like scumpartners would probably try to correct (or point out to him before he embarked on this plan)
mutant - 87 - lol that's like what I was thinking basically wrt to the restriction thing and the limitations of this plan. I don't know if mafia effectively always have a double vote - election results by district are posted and we ought to be able to piece together pools of players who committed voter fraud across multiple elections, which would enable us to try to figure out who tried to unduly influence the election. Also agree wrt discussion pre-hammer
Ruby - how are you proposing finding the scum you want to lynch day1? Like, who are they? What happens if you don't find them? I'm not sure
mutant - 95 kinda townread this too. And 98 and 101 and honestly just like most of his posts from that page.
ausuksa - 99 - not sure if it's such a great idea to let one person decide the lynch; by placing my trust in the president like that, I'm trusting them to a) be town and b) have good reads c) have reads that align with my own. I'm liking the parties that support having discussion-based lynches.
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hebichain - 103 - I feel like district distribution is inherently WIFOM-y and that we ought not read too much into it. I also feel like scum are more likely to emphasize such things because they are intimately familiar with that part of the (complex) ruleset. and wrt 119 - like your whole analysis is based on what scum 'probably' does, but honestly that's just guesswork and there's no way of knowing that's what scum *actually* did. I'm not going to read too much into district distribution, and especially not day1, when there's only one datapoint.
invisibility - 105 - Not sure why they'd deliberately create districts they think are unwinnable.
People I've played with (Eh, this is irrelevant for now since I wasn't here n0 but I guess I'll put it in for later days)
1. fighting dreamers - played with the duck a few times <3 , never with the anime person
3. firebringer - once
4. iconeum - played with twice I think
8. mylo - once
13. ruby red - a few times
15. nk15 - once, but they repped out early day1 iirc
18. whemestar - once
Spoiler: pages 6-9
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duckling - I really don't think that proposal NK15's comes from scum tbh. Like I get why you think it's LAMIST but I don't think that proposal gets past partners because it's so out of tune with the gamestate.
mylo - I'm kinda soulreading mylo as town. He's feels kinda different from splattoon and less uncertain and self-conscious and more ... care-free is a good word.
I'm just going to ignore the third party claims from wheme/firebringer for now; from what I've seen in the past they both seem the type to lolclaim that
invisibility - 186- you do realize you wrote 123, right? Actually Ircher/numbers dude follows up on that and asks why he's getting scumpings from that post but didn't bother to check the post in question apparently because he doesn't point that out? That kinda feels to me like he's asking questions to look busy without actually caring about what they're about.
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tazaro - 200 - not loving this attitude towards picking a candidate. it's kinda low-effort and an inane reason to support someone. I would kinda treat this post as a meme except you actually went through with that on that reasoning. Not really sure why the duck likes this.
rubyred - 207 - the reaction to being scumread feels kinda aggressive to me.
aronis - 210 I'd like to hear more about your plan to 'operate this nation more efficiently'
ausuka - 211 - I kinda want the president ot have a higher level of accountability; I wouldn't really be satisfied with someone who passes the bar of 'not being a VI and probably won't use it to herovig'. Like I would *not* be OK with mylo as prez even if I think that they're more likely than not town. Also why are you scumreading mylo? I kinda don't think that the posts on this page from him come from scum!him given splatoon
OK I got up to page 9; I'll continue this probably tomorrow night.
townlean: mylo, mutant, nk15, ruby red in roughly that order
scumlean: hebichan, 123, tazaro
Not sure: duckling hydra; need to interact with the duckling probably. Like I like the party itself and the tenets they proposed but I'm not sure if I actually townread the slot.
Everyone else I don't feel like I have good feel for yet
I finished finals so I have time to play this now! I shall get around to reading this soon. Also I'm semi v/la this weekend specifically because I'm graduating, but I should have lots more time come Monday!
Congratulations on graduating.
What political party are you gonna join?
tyty and ausuka too!
wrt parties, thoughts as of where I'm up to:
mutant - I probably townread him the most of the candidates but I don't think that his party is particularly tenable; I don't think that he is going to be president, and I'd rather support someone I townread + I think can become president
nk15 - I townread but I disagree with the tenets of the party and like he's never becoming president on that campaign
anime hydra - I don't know if I particularly townread them but I like the tenets of their party, and like their strategies for sorting people and looking for scum, and like that they want input from others when making their decision.
rubyred - I think her opener + aggressive campaigning probably doesn't come from scum her but like ... she's running on a slogan basically. I'm not sure how she's going to fulfill her promise, or what happens if she fails to do so.
wheme's - A party who's fundemental tenet is shitposting is just meh and like I think we can do better.
In post 556, mutantdevle wrote:Personally, I'd encourage anyone who doesn't like any of the current parties to form their own. Not for campaigning though.
2 benefits I can list off the top of my head is that you get a PT to document your thoughts and if any PRs decide to out information using the crier ability then the more party leaders we have the harder it will be for scum to work out who sent it.
I think most mods would probably give you a PT if you asked for one but that's a really good point wrt PR results actually.
tbh im lowkey scumreading some people in my party.
Watching the people fill in to the groups, I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 557, skitter30 wrote:anime hydra - I don't know if I particularly townread them but I like the tenets of their party, and like their strategies for sorting people and looking for scum, and like that they want input from others when making their decision.
rubyred - I think her opener + aggressive campaigning probably doesn't come from scum her but like ... she's running on a slogan basically. I'm not sure how she's going to fulfill her promise, or what happens if she fails to do so.
is explaining the "tenets" of my party or the method that i scumhunt through actually somehting that people actually care about
i assumed ducky and simyk were just kind of roleplaying an actual election
In post 560, hebichan wrote:Watching the people fill in to the groups, I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.
In post 560, hebichan wrote:Watching the people fill in to the groups, I think Ruby's might actually be the easiest to get a mislynch off of since she directly stated shed listen to her party.
what??????
Not sure what you don't understand about this. People expressed some low scumreads on each other in our party thread even.
I just think scum sees our party as an easy target.
