Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[GuyInFreezer]

Why does this influence your vote?

It actually doesn't.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why does this influence your vote?

It actually doesn't.

Please just answer the question. Are you planning to vote for Creature or not?

[Randomnamechange]

ANSWER THE QUESTION GIF

[Randomnamechange]

ANSWER THE QUESTION OR I'LL BITE YOUR LEG OFF

[Nancy Drew 39]

ANSWER THE QUESTION OR I'LL BITE YOUR LEG OFF

[the worst]

Ugh GiF is scum
Feels bad man

[GuyInFreezer]

Take a guess.

[GuyInFreezer]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 2.GIF:

Creature (6): TPFKAP, The Worst, WhemeStar, Nancy Drew 39, Scioness Sajj, Shoshin
randomidget (1): NicoRobin
Shoshin (1): Reality Check
TPFKAP (1): randomidget
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
The Worst (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Taly (0):
Reality Check (0):
GuyInFreezer (0):
WhemeStar (0):
ArcAngel9 (0):
Joral (0):

Not voting: Taly, GuyInFreezer, Creature, Joral

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-25 12:00:00).

[GuyInFreezer]

AA9 you should vote Creature. I need to test something.

[Reality Check]

Ugh GiF is scum
Feels bad man

probably yes

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ugh GiF is scum
Feels bad man

Ugh GiF is scum
Feels bad man

probably yes

Probably?

[Nancy Drew 39]

AA9 you should vote Creature. I need to test something.

Here’s a super good novel idea. Wait for it . . . Why don’t you BOTH vote for Creature, then we can mag?

[GuyInFreezer]

Do I need to hint even more

[the worst]

something about something to do with a voting role

[RadiantCowbells]

I finally ahve a bit of time sometime soon so replacement entries and general upkeep will happen soon.

[RadiantCowbells]

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 2.63:

Creature (6): Chickadee, The Worst, WhemeStar, Nancy Drew 39, Scioness Sajj, Shoshin
randomidget (1): NicoRobin
Shoshin (1): Reality Check
Chickadee (1): randomidget
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
The Worst (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
Reality Check (0):
GuyInFreezer (0):
WhemeStar (0):
ArcAngel9 (0):
Commander Shepherd (0):

Not voting: Vartsun, GuyInFreezer, Creature, Commander Shepherd

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2018-06-25 12:00:00).

Joral has been replaced by Commander Shepherd!
TPFKAP has been replaced by Chickadee!

Please welcome them.

Prods have gone out as well.

[Reality Check]

my main got prodded for some reason

[NicoRobin]

I have been prodded.

[Commander Shepard]

63 pages...Anyone got a TLDR?

[Reality Check]

Nancy Drew 39 is obvtown even without investigative
NicoRobin is obvtown even without investigative
Scioness Sajj is very close to obvtown
the worst is closeish, there's just a couple things that are worrying about how they're playing

Taly needs to post stuff, but probably town
joral needs to be replaced, but probably town
WhemeStar is probably town (he did something that was really town very early on in the game, only not higher right now before he hasn't done a whole lot since then)

TGPKAP is the most likely town of the four
I think I'll be able to have GIF sorted sooner rather than later, so that should be a huge help

so

Shoshin > ArcAngel9 > Creature > randommidget

That's my current read of the scumteam from most confident to least confident.

btw no I'm not a shit town player

the methods I use are just unexplainable, so I generally don't explain them

[Reality Check]

I'm starting to think that maybe GIF is in my 'most likely scum in poescum' list instead of randommidget

[Commander Shepard]

I'm starting to think that maybe GIF is in my 'most likely scum in poescum' list instead of randommidget

Please talk a bit about your scum list. It looks like Creature is where people want to go based on the votes but I want to see if I can sort anyone before we go into night.

[Commander Shepard]

Do I need to hint even more

AA9 you should vote Creature. I need to test something.

Why are you doing what you’re doing?

I mean I see it but it is NAI to me and I want to know why and catch up before the hammer falls.

[Reality Check]

Spoiler:

VOTE: the worst

VOTE: joral

I don't really think Joral is scum tbh

Why not?

VOTE: Reality

I don't

really

think Joral is scum

tbh

I bolded some of the language that pinged me. At this point, it made no sense from a town perspective to hesitantly defend Joral - literally none - and language like "really" and "tbh" suggests that Reality don't believe what they're saying themselves. And when questioned about it, Reality completely ignored me... So I'm happy with where my vote is.

this progression is not natural

the worst, what's your read on Reality? any reason I'm wrong about them?

faintly nullish badtown rn across the both heads

Why badtown rather than scum?

faintly nullish badtown rn across the both heads

Why badtown rather than scum?

dem reads

Yeah, they're pretty bad - but why is that town rather than scum?

this shift is not natural after the above

i don't really like 145. but since we are speaking is there anything else that you don't like about rc?

Their reads suck, they lack any sort of internal logic, and their play feels passive. You're probably right that I'm distant but don't take that as a scum-tell - I'm guessing it's because I don't know anyone so I'm relating to people as strangers, whereas most others here seem to have some history together.

this is independently scummy

If Reality's town, there's a certain degree of paranoia underlying Wheme's vote that feels very town. Like, why would scum Wheme alienate town Reality, the one player who reads Wheme as strong town?

this type of logic is what I'm reading in Shoshin's interactions towards us, plus there's this weird feeling that shoshin is already setting up for our townflip despite having no support for it happening

...I can't follow your thought process too well with some of these votes.

What don't you follow? I explained the vote on Reality but it's obvious nobody wants to pressure them so I'm voting my other suspect. What's confusing about the vote on Sajj? She posts lots of meaningless commentary and doesn't commit to anything.

"I'm not scummy, I swear! look! there's another person doing exactly the same thing as me!"

Look at my correct % in recent games. I'm done trying to convince you people. My record speaks for itself.

I don't think scum would boast about how great their reads usually are.

shoshin has never met the mod before

VOTE: the worst for an answer on why Sajj is town.

sweaty get off your high horse and go find actual scum

If you helped me out, then maybe I wouldn't vote you. But if you're going to obscure your alignment, then I'm going to assume it's because you're scum.

every other post in my ISO is transparent and conspicuously town motivated. if you get a stick up your ass abt one post which is VERY OBVIOUSLY hinting that I'm planning something with obscuring my read then I can only assume you're scum using an insanely stupid tunnel as a smokescreen.

I disagree. I still have no clue why you read Reality as "badtown" rather than "scum," and you've cluttered the game with tons of pointless posts. I liked your vote on Wheme and that was about it. I've seen scum do exactly what you've done in this game multiple times (including the whole "I'm not going to explain my reads yet because I have plans"), so if that's how you're going to play, I'm going to vote you until I have strong reason to believe you're town. I was hoping your explanation on Sajj would help me read you and her better... but I guess you don't want that?

weak

this is the type of trend I've been seeing in a lot of Shoshin's votes; there's a lot of making up reasons to fit a scumread that they decided to have without a whole lot of sound analysis behind it. read: their later worst/realitycheck scumreads, it's FULL of this

WhemeStar - leans town for pushing Creature/Random and because overall he seems to play without any concern for appearances in a way that's more likely to come from town than scum.

Joral - leans town because of his early play but hasn't posted enough to solidify a read.

Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly) - leans town because they haven't done anything to make me think otherwise plus early post seem aimed at sorting alignments.

ArcAngel9 - leans town, because of early negative utility claim, which I think is more likely to be town than scum motivated, and recent posting doesn't really make much sense from a scum perspective - it's the sort of crazy that's more likely to come from town than scum.

the three townreads on whemestar/joral/vartsun are all natural because they're correct. the townread on arcangel9 is jagged and more vague than the others despite having more words on it.

So, basically, I'm willing to lynch any of the worst, Reality, Creature, or Random.

this team makes no sense

The Worst + Reality suspecting each other on D1 but coming into D2 100% convinced they're town? Makes sense as scum interactions.

Reality delaying the lynching of Creature? Makes sense as scum/scum.

Reality listing Random as possible scum but as soon as I point out that Random is scum Reality votes me for idiotic reasons and doesn't say anything about Random at all? Makes sense as scum/scum.

The Worst supporting Reality's vote on me while offering no comments on Random? Makes sense as scum/scum.

It actually makes too much sense that I'm worried it's wrong somewhere.

bad logic followed by a preemptive /out from seeing this through

I skipped a bunch of posts and didn't go through the whole ISO, but this should be enough to at least show what I'm trying to say regarding Shoshin-scum

1. Read trajectories make no sense
2. Her playstyle reads as significantly leaning towards stream of conscious; players with this style that roll scum have a tendency to want to make sure their thoughts can be seen as consistent, which is why there's a lot of weird justifications for her votes and thoughts that are just added on, like it's an afterthought
3. She is trying to look like she has solid stances, yet she also tries to give herself as much room as possible to change them if she needs to.

Now if you cross-reference it with my reads...

It makes a lot of sense for her to be scum with AA9
It makes sense for her to be scum with Creature
I could see her also being scum with TGPKAP
Somewhat possible scum with random (mainly true if a lot of the general reads in this game are correct, that would need to be verified first)
Not quite as likely scum with Renais/GIF

Shoshin + ArcAngel9 + (Creature/randommidget/GIF/TGPKAP)

it makes a lot of sense where I'm standing

AA9 I don't think I've ever gone into, I'd have to read through her posts again to refresh my memory since I don't think I went into it very much in the hydra PT either. It's probably the type of things she's commented on and her stances.

The other four are just outside of my townreads.

[Commander Shepard]

Does anyone know of any games Shoshin has completed recently or something I can get a feel from them on?

I am loathe to the “Not consistent” argument on someone who may be a newbie. I need to look at what you posted in detail but some of that concerns me.

Can you talk about why you townread the other slots? I find it odd you would have a townread on my slot when it’s been dormant a while.