Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Punreader]

This game is really not that hard.
If mafia can't both action and kill, JUNGLE becomes conftown. (Sadly, I don't expect this to be the case, but we're in for a VERY pleasant surprise if so.)
Dunnstral is soft-conftown.
Kaede is hard-conftown.
I have hard-townreads on Ankamius and YT.
I know myself to be town.

That narrows the pool down to wilky/Kokichi Oma/Alchemist21/davesaz.

We have four lynches by my math. (1, 10 > 8. 2, 8 > 6. 3, 6 > 4.) We could literally lynch all of them and we would win, not even going into additional reasons for narrowing the pool down further. (Namely, reasonable townread on wilky and soft townread on Kokichi Oma.)

Pagetopping this part because it's important enough to warrant a repeat and not be missed.

[Punreader]

you guys need to stop being "Vote dave" "Vote dave" we need a Plan B, i do agree dave's pretty likely scum on it's own, that was the main reason he had to be blocked last night, dunno if OTM did, which is the problem, and if he did then there's an inno on dave, meanwhile you're just ignoring this, not even giving a second option.

I did, you just didn't like the second option as it was a strong townread of yours. (Alchemist21.)
Also a tertiary option for that matter. (Kokichi Oma.)

[Punreader]

You trust my scum case on Jungle.

You mean the scum case on Jungle based around mechanics which has been more or less disproven with mechanical reasons to clear him which when given you said "okay but let's read him without mechanics"? And then proceeded to not give any non-mechanical reasons for him to be pun?

[Punreader]

We havent heard from wilky in like forever this day phase either.

You said the same about JUNGLE.

May I quote the instances where you more or less state you're lynching him because he's not showing up?

You should know what I mean.

My sentiment, then, on wilky should be obvious enough: he is no different than JUNGLE, in that wagoning him because he isn't around is just a dumb idea.

[Punreader]

I shall continue my catch-up tomorrow.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I guess I'll have to wait again.
Time to sleep, wake me up when punreader reaches dave's threat of quoting his role PM.

[Ankamius]

holy, pun

[Ankamius]

I had an idea to see if there was a possibility that the kills were made because of reads primarily and role secondar...ily, but all I've discovered so far is that Impossibear's EoD1 reads are really hard to get and that apparently their reads were similar to RC's

So much for that idea!

[YT2980]

i have arrived from the 2 flights safely! thanks for waiting patiently

punreader: don’t want to mess with quoting your 5194 atm, but that town-indicative AtE where he wants to quote his role pm says everything i have been theorizing about him, conveniently in one post. given i was already townreading him, it’s going to take a lot to overturn my townread of him, so if he is to be lynched it will have to be with people other than me on his wagon... i’m absolutely not convinced he’s scum

your points about dave are alright theoretically, but why do you conclusively figure projectmatt didn’t put at least one of his partners in a decent game position, given his supposed expertise? all-or-nothing gambiting is something mafia teams virtually never do, because the risks are as high as those of untamed wildfires reaching houses. when you sit and think about it, if dave is his partner, he put him in an awful position... thus = lynchbait in my view, seeing that it’s seemingly impossible right now to put forth another lynch option without the conversation ultimately circling back to dave

[Ankamius]

YT

again, that argument doesn't work because in that scenario, the entire scumteam is sinking.

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

VOTE: davveasz

it's time to move this game forward

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

Why should i trust pun's VCA even if he's town.

Because if you knew my main, you would know to trust my VCA. I guarantee it.

VCA is bullshit though. unless your main is {Titus, DrippingGoofball, Ellibereth}, i pretty much dont trust VCA. even if you're mastina. ahem


well i didn't want to sound like a party pooper pun but at least you know SOMEBODY reads your posts

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

punreader's gimmick beats mine. hands down. by this point i'd already have slipped by using 'scum' instead of 'pun'

in respect of this, i'm upgrading him to REAL MAN status. so, now we have two REAL MEN here, kaede and punreader. while i am the REAL REAL MAN.

[Ankamius]

Titus regularly townreads me as scum with VCA

so

[Dunnstral]

unless your main is {Titus, DrippingGoofball,

ESPECIALLY if your main is one of these

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

lets jungle guys

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sigh, whatever im tired of arguing, hope this does flip scum, but if it doesnt, dont come crying to me to magically solve the game.
VOTE: dave

[Ankamius]

I think it's just about inevitable that town will win even if davesaz is somehow town, the only real thing that needs to be kept in mind is that from now on, nightkills are huge sources of info

[davesaz]

Sigh, whatever im tired of arguing, hope this does flip scum, but if it doesnt, dont come crying to me to magically solve the game.
VOTE: dave

It won't flip scum, and you should have come to me to solve the game not punreader.
Kinda hope scum wins if you lynch me.

[Ankamius]

should've trusted me to solve the game instead too

oh wait

[REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE]

Sigh, whatever im tired of arguing, hope this does flip scum, but if it doesnt, dont come crying to me to magically solve the game.
VOTE: dave

It won't flip scum, and you should have come to me to solve the game not punreader.
Kinda hope scum wins if you lynch me.

honestly, i don't give a fuck. i'm sick of your whining bullshit. tons of people get mislynched every day. suck it up and play better next time if you're town. it's not like we lose if you are somehow town here anyway, so get a fucking grip.

[davesaz]

I'm playing my best town game ever.
It doesn't get any more town than this.
Nobody plays town better than this.
Punreader's reads are wrong.
Kaede is waffling all over the place.
Most of the game had locktowned at least one of the flipped scum in their posted reads.
Most of the game had lockscummed at least one of the flipped town.
Damn right I'm salty. Fuck you all.

[Ankamius]

I don't remember seeing you making any particularly strong push for lynching your scumreads

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm playing my best town game ever.
It doesn't get any more town than this.

[davesaz]

What do you call Jungle?
By my nature as a person, location on the west coast US, and 60 hour work weeks (plus another 60 hours either dadding or volunteering), I'm almost never the first person to do anything in any game.

In what universe does a player with a <10% scum win rate unnecessarily bus 3 of their partners as a miller claim?
Punreader knows about the <10% win rate, if they bothered at all to know who I am.

The fact that I care should be another neon sign.
No town gullible enough to follow scum into mislynching me deserves a win.
And if town didn't follow scum it wouldn't happen.