Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[Invisibility]

lol

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@Tommy: You could've just read the game & made a post relevant to the current gamestate. Instead of what you ended up doing.
I reread the "Nos case." It's not a case.

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

Okay, wiki insinuates that ascetics are usually not VTs.

intent to hammer

For the record, my current scumpool are teacher, Tommy, I also used to townread WM, but I'm not sure, & I have difficulties reading BBT. (& I also have way too many townreads.)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If I don’t scum read him but don’t town read him, common sense would mean what?

How was I supposed to know you were not town reading him?

Why don't you have a read on someone who has been integral to almost everything D1?

[Nosferatu]

Sorry didn’t realize this was a newbie game. I thought experienced players could figure things out like that

experienced players vote null slots because information is more important than acting out on personal grudges, but here we are.

[wavemode]

If you're basing your intent on him claiming town ascetic, I should point out that literally right before taking a break from the site I completed a game with a Town Ascetic. He had no other power

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@WM: I'm looking for that game, but I don't seem to be able to find it. When was this?

[wavemode]

Nero Cain was a Town Ascetic in Large Normal 206 iirc

[Nosferatu]

town ascetic is a very possible role. It's just not particularly useful.

[wavemode]

Yes it's the kind of role normal reviewers recommend to add to a setup to weaken the town (since they can't be cleared by investigatives)

Normal reviewers like firebringer

Who reviewed both this setup and that one...

I even hate bringing up this kind of thing though because it implies I'm basing my unwillingness to lynch invis on this, when I'm really not. It could still just be a lucky fakeclaim. My point is though that you shouldn't intent to hammer simply because you think this role is implausible. It isn't.

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

retract intent

[Tchill13]

Sorry didn’t realize this was a newbie game. I thought experienced players could figure things out like that

Says the guy death tunneling on d1

[Tchill13]

If invisibility ever flips scum in insta lynching wave.

This is ridiculous. Why wouldn't you lynch invisibility here? Give me a good reason.

[wavemode]

Because I didn't want to before and a wagon quickly forming up on him doesn't make me feel any better about it?

Like, if I were ever going to vote invis in this game it would have been of my own free will as I continue ue to evaluate his play, not at the tail end of a flash wagon

[Tchill13]

Idc about that. That's not what I asked.

You didn't want to before. Why? What has solidified over time that's keeping you from doing it now?

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@Invis: Why have you been playing the way you have?

[Tchill13]

Yes let's stick out olive branches at L-1. You're just gonna get a bunch of NAI content.

[Lefty]

B...V...
*clap clap*
B..V..
*clap clap*

[wavemode]

Idc about that. That's not what I asked.

You didn't want to before. Why? What has solidified over time that's keeping you from doing it now?

There's been no point in this game where I wanted invisible dead. I was Town leaning on him for a while, then I colored him gray to remain cautious but I still didn't think he was scum at that point - there were just a lot of other people I considered townier than him

Is there some particular reason I SHOULD want invis lynched at this moment? Because everything has to be so black or white for you? When we're not even close to deadline? If this is you "trying a different playstyle" from our last 2 games together I suggest you flip back. If this is just scum you, well, you won't last long.

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

Okay, guys, I need an opinion. If what I'm saying is stupid, just tell me to shut up.

Invis is ascetic. His play was such that it (1) encouraged being investigated (2) discouraged being protected & (3) encouraged being killed (by town.)
(1) is harmful, (2) & (3) have little to no advantages. So that's a scumpoint, I think. Am I right?

[Gustavo]

Sorry didn’t realize this was a newbie game. I thought experienced players could figure things out like that

experienced players vote null slots because information is more important than acting out on personal grudges, but here we are.

No experienced players vote scum reads.

[Gustavo]

Cops/vigs investigate/take out null reads

[Gustavo]

Sorry didn’t realize this was a newbie game. I thought experienced players could figure things out like that

Says the guy death tunneling on d1

I’m death tunneling a scum read though. It’s not time to compromise

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@Gus: Have you gone back to look at BV's scumread on BBT?

[Invisibility]

this has been a bad game for me