Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

[Wisdom]

no, the main reason ive been okay with her lynch is she makes sense as scum with moment

which would be obvious if you were reading the game

[Ginngie]

It’s not obvious

So.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Less than 24 hours BTW

[grapes]

ok so

In queen of hearts town had a bunch of compulsive body guards
Nightengale we had a bunch of double voters

Maybe this game the "weak-ish role that town gets more than one of" is vanilla cop because
1) wis is kinda right that it aint too strong especially depending on setup and sakura fakeclaiming vanilla cop as scum is only really likely if she's actually a role cop i think (btw i think the "scum version" of the vanilla cops in this case would probably be akin to rolecop if that's in fact what's going on here)
2) I'm not sure fakegod would give scum the fakeclaim of vanilla cop to just have me CC and get a wicked easy scum lynch (thing is here, maybe he would, in queen of hearts the mafia bodyguard wasn't compulsive and in nightengale scum didn't have a double-voter, though)
3) ginngie and nos are both sorta reacting how scum would in a CC situation between 2 town



At any rate after pondering it's kinda cool that if kaeda and I are both town we both are kinda bad night kills and they can't block both of us so yippee i guess

Let's vote in android nos ginngie for today

VOTE: nos

[Dunnstral]

I believe Kaede and Grape claims

I think Andriod is town, i think you guys are looking at things the wrong way but I don't really want to elaborate

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Nightengale we had a bunch of double voters

Also Nightingale's Double Voters were day specific. Like our current IC claims.
UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

I don't believe katsuki's ic claim.

[Ginngie]

I’m literally a vanilla cop fuck you

[Ginngie]

If I remember correctly, last time I played as a vanilla cop, goon doesnt show up as vanilla

wait no that includes goon as well my B

Literally me checking my role PM in the span of a minute :3

[zMuffinMan]

cupcake probably isn't an actual IC but he does have a D5 role and he might still be town (don't care about him yet - even if he is scum, find other scum first)

it's within fakegod's mod meta to put multiple town roles in a game to mask a scum role (i.e. a scum vanilla cop - ginngie - being masked by multiple instances of town vanilla cops). it doesn't

necessarily

imply the existence of a goon or goons in this scenario (though one may exist). it doesn't

necessarily

imply that there is a scum vanilla cop (though in this case, there is - it's ginngie)

roughly ordered reads:

isaac
mastina
grapes
hs
kokichi
dunnstral
purr
kaede
nancy
wisdom
moment
-----LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE-----
andriod
ankamius
nosferatu
ginngie

cupcake

[zMuffinMan]

---on- --- ---a---

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.14

Wisdom [2] - Katsuki, Ginngie
Katsuki [1] - zMuffinMan
Kokichi Oma [2] - mastina, Purrcocet
Kaede Akamatsu [4] - Ankamius, Brian Skies, Human Sequencer, Kokichi Oma
Nancy Drew 39 [1] - Moment
grapes [3] - andriod18, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
Moment [1] - Wisdom
Nosferatu [1] - grapes

Not Voting [2]

- Nancy Drew 39, Kaede Akamatsu

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Nos

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: nos
Will trust muffin's read because i dont trust my own read on someone defending me.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: nos

excited to see post game

[zMuffinMan]

tbh i'd prefer ginngie (and i specifically want to point to how he reacted to both vanilla cops as an instance of why it should be obvious that he's not town - because he should have had a reaction similar to grapes when kaede outed her role and his reaction to grapes' claim and his planned action is just... bad)

nosferatu is basically just lack of town posts + bad votes + poe + armchair posting that you'd typically see from scum

[Nosferatu]

keep tellin yourself that

[Ginngie]

nah fam

I just learn from my mistakes

camn's revenge I mistakenly went bullheaded against someone and mislynched them cuz we had the same role

mastina's worst mafia game ever had a ton of town/town same role pair ups.

I'm not counterclaiming shit out of naivety anymore

[Ginngie]

Literally all the things you take issue with, are things I've learned to be idiotic, ergo I don't do that, or something I've used successfully, and continue to use.

You don't really talk about those points, you're just saying the same mantra over and over and hoping it sticks.

[zMuffinMan]

it's not even about counter-claiming per se, it's about trying to figure out what it means about the setup

beep beep yeet off the wagon plz

you dont lynch a cop claim d1 :3

this isn't ginngie-town-who-is-a-vanilla-cop's reaction to kaede's claim

[Ginngie]

what part about me saying I've seen this shit before don't you understand?

[Ginngie]

and your little thing about what it means for the set up.

I don't honest to god care about set up most games.

Sure I'll use it to get like a guessing game of a clear on someone later down the road.

However, I always hold the belief that role does not equal alignment as a priority over anything else.

[zMuffinMan]

what part about me saying I've seen this shit before don't you understand?

doesnt change anything

However, I always hold the belief that role does not equal alignment as a priority over anything else.

inconsistent with #1238

[Ginngie]

Nope

role does not equal alignment

and you never lynch a cop before they can get a result

I've always been that way bub

[Dunnstral]

Stop claiming vanilla cops

Even if there are more, it's not beneficial at this point