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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:26 pm

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Actually no fuck that.

Why the hell would EP make their own role that?

Fire, that is bullshit.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:30 pm

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Also what the fuck kind of role is that when there is someone who needs you to rank lowly for their role too.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm

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did someone say data~?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm

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Is this the hill you want to die on?
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 1153, Fire Assassin wrote:Is this the hill you want to die on?
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 1151, Espeonage wrote:Also what the fuck kind of role is that when there is someone who needs you to rank lowly for their role too.
Sounds like a balancing tool to ensure my results won’t always be accurate
For example if I told everyone day one to give me a high ranking because role reasons and got everyone to agree the other part of my role wouldn’t matter.

Going to try arguing against that?
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:35 pm

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espe where is your fullclaim I can't find it
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:36 pm

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The balancing tool is that either me or dunn becomes vanilla. It doesn't need another one.

Also, EP flavour, in your best paraphrasing, and go.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:36 pm

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Screen is the only ranking that hasn't been said so far, and he hasn't posted at all today.

So I think the average and placement I'll put everyone at will be relatively accurate
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 136, Espeonage wrote:
In post 135, Dunnstral wrote:Hi, this is a thing.

For my role, I need Fire Assassin to be rated highly today
And I am the antithesis, I need him to do poorly.

But that's cool bc he scum.
In post 144, Espeonage wrote:I need vax higher than fa
we have not claimed what it gives us, I thought we had.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:39 pm

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In post 1156, TehBrawlGuy wrote:espe where is your fullclaim I can't find it
He didn't fullclaim.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:39 pm

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Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:40 pm

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Ok sorry I thought I had. The core mechanic however was known early.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:40 pm

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is that your full role?
nothing else?
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:42 pm

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Nothing else.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:43 pm

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In post 1161, Espeonage wrote:Whoever won the bet got to choose to vig, protect, or vanillaise the other.
Can confirm I have the same role
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:44 pm

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Hey dunnstral, I asked you a question.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:47 pm

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I believed that there was scum in our four, yes, I thought it was vax day 1, I thoguht it was you day 2

Anyways, if espeonage ends up being scum then I'm pretty much confirmed town because his role includes a vig that can only target me and there's serious setup shenanigans if we were both scum
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:50 pm

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I'm doing the average's and kicking myself in the ass for ranking
Fire
low

also,
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:51 pm

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Votecount 2.6


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Not Voting
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:52 pm

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In post 1167, Dunnstral wrote:I believed that there was scum in our four, yes, I thought it was vax day 1, I thoguht it was you day 2

Anyways, if espeonage ends up being scum then I'm pretty much confirmed town because his role includes a vig that can only target me and there's serious setup shenanigans if we were both scum
This just seems like weak reasoning to townread/scumread people, and its like moon logic that Titus would use in a 4 player neighborhood scenario.
Like take these roles and replace them with a neighborhood and you would be chanting that one of the people has to be scum.

And theres been games with 4 town neighborhoods and 4 scum neighborhoods. Its all mod WIFOM. Unless you want to now go into EP mod meta, this isn't useful thinking nor accurate in anyway.

So is there game reasons for thinking any of these alignments are true, because I think gameplay wise, I have good reasons to think Espe is scum, and this isn't even considering my own role. Which I am sure makes him confirmed scum now.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:53 pm

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ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:55 pm

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tfw pine is more useful than srceen
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 1171, Taly wrote:ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
is more likely scum here, but still.
my own calculations has something different than this.
Also I don't think screenplay submitted
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:57 pm

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oh wait,
Pine/Nico/LB
technically had their rankings in

i can def see
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Fire
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Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 1171, Taly wrote:ugh, damnit. -_-

Fire
has 67 points to divide from.
Espe
has 69 points to divide from.

so we need screens rankings to decipher if the result was truthful or not.

but i do think
espe
is more likely scum here, but still.
my own calculations has something different than this.
Also I don't think screenplay submitted
I'm averaging from the 14 full-lists. I'm not 100% accurate
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