NY 213 - Game Over!

[osuka]

No. He's not on my townlist right now. But not near the top of the scumlist either. If other people weren't pushing him, I might be.

Scion is a vanity wagon so join us over here:

VOTE: JarJar

Eh.. not really vanity. It was a prodding vote. Which worked. But yeah, let's move the vote.

VOTE: JarJarDrinks

and then flip flops, what the shit

JarJarDrinks(4) ~ Golden Robster, Myloninja13, Osuka, Vaxkiller

Robster is town. Mafia logic says one or more of these other numbnuts are scum.

VOTE: Osuka

Lotsa good folk on this wagon

and

then

, there's this post. jarjar i'll tell you right now that you're in a pretty deep hole but so are some other slots, so if you just let go of the shovel and let everyone else dig themselves deeper, you might not top my lynch list tonight

[osuka]

texcat

- you have asked a lot of questions - do you have any conclusions? or just reads.

My strongest scum reads are Osuka and ArcAngel9. I'm still waiting for ArcAngel9 to come back and explain 235. I definitely need to see more from her.
I am suspicious of Edos (because I thought A50's reasons had some merit), ETL (who explained his metoo post, but I'd like to see more), Lovebird (who jumped on the Edos bandwagon, but claimed it wasn't a sheep and claimed she had her own reasons, but didn't bother to tell us what they were).

why do you scumread me?

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

[osuka]

This is not a content heavy catch up.

my dude, neither is yours. you basically didn't say anything substantial in half the posts from 574 to 586. i don't like how your catch up mostly feels like asking miscellaneous questions and redirecting statements

[osuka]

JarJarDrinks(4) ~ Golden Robster, Myloninja13, Osuka, Vaxkiller

Robster is town. Mafia logic says one or more of these other numbnuts are scum.

vote vaxkiller with me

i think ur town but u acting scummy

what sense does this make?

[osuka]

and also i'm pretty sure i declared v/la so i didn't have time to quote and go into it more than pointing out something i agreed with. that's gonna be the case for much of this first game day. personal shit. i'm not gonna waste time defending my short posts for today. deal with it. ALSO ALSO i find it suspicious that you jumped to his defense. just saying.

I find suspicious that you voted me because you thought my opening my lamist, then dunn echoes you by saying that my opening post was scummy, texcat asked dunn for elaboration, then you say texcat was "defending" me... really now??
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/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

/confirm

hardclaim mafia rolecop

sory

***regular rolecop

VOTE: wavemode

/confirm

osuka and ausuka...?

hmmmm, it's confusing but not THAT confusing

if i got a nickel for every time i was called 'asuka' on here, i could probably make a job out of it

Thank you everyone, very cool!

VOTE: wavemode
because last time we played together you were scum and I’m pretty sure you made it to end game

These are the most suspicious posts I noticed from an osuka ISO, when looking at why he was the leading wagon. He even votes wavemode twice in a row. Votes wave and votes him again, despite already voting him. None of this makes sense if osuka is town.
VOTE: osuka
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Also, we're getting close to the Saturday half-day mark. If we can consolidate votes, that would be good.

how far up your ass, exactly, is your head?

you're picking on rvs posts? we're in the 600s already - if this isn't a straight up invented case on someone, i don't know what is

and "consolidate votes"? really? that sounds disgusting

why would you want to "consolidate votes" (read: wagon someone, probably town, so that you can lynch someone without personal repercussions) halfway through the day, especially if it's day 1? we still have a week left until n1 and you're already talking about the deadline, jesus

[Ausuka]

I think osuka is a town slot also now.

[osuka]

Spoiler:

This is by far the earliest in any game I’ve had to quote myself

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

plus the way you reacted to the push on this page

Idk, osuka hasn’t been looking very good to me and this is detailing why somewhat: his priorities on what he’s pushing feel distorted

what are my perceived priorities vs. the ones you expect?

[osuka]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?

just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really

[osuka]

Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?

not a case per se but I give a reason in 112

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

this is, hands down, one of the most shit reasons i've ever seen anyone try to start a lynch wagon on d1 for. especially given that the post of mine you use as the (apparently sole) reason for the push was actually a reply to a question of none other than yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

This is by far the earliest in any game I’ve had to quote myself

How about this, nobody posts anything d1 and we don’t Lynch in case we end up voting a townie

Then we convince the mafia not to kill anyone and we call it a draw

I'm going to call an early SR on this. Some kind of combination of LAMIST and "haha let's do this anti-Town thing as a joke but no really."

best pregame case I've seen in a long time.

VOTE: osuka

follow up question: is it the only pregame case you’ve seen in a while?

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that

I'll answer u after charles answers me.

So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo

Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have

plus the way you reacted to the push on this page

Idk, osuka hasn’t been looking very good to me and this is detailing why somewhat: his priorities on what he’s pushing feel distorted

what are my perceived priorities vs. the ones you expect?

The questions you’re asking don’t feel important at all, they feel like busywork
Also gonna note osuka is taking a hard offensive against Performer here

[Gamma Emerald]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?

just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really

That’s not how I interpret it at all, he seems perfectly fine

[osuka]

VOTE: Osuka

As I have been reading through all these pages and catching up, the thing that stood out to me was the self meta thing, along with his response through voting JarJar. Seems a little overly defensive and to me like he picked and chose the easiest target to go after to try and get another lynch wagon going.

funny way to write "i'll just sheep jarjar"

[osuka]

from 682-689, gamma sounds really towny and, to an extent, so does a50.

there's actually a good chance that that's tvt - but if it is not, i'm picking gamma to be the town side every time

[osuka]

"P.S. Don't forget I am one of the best players on MS who can read you. Also, I already had Edo down as Scum, and you only confirmed it to me. 100% Scum slot."
Whoaaaa a50. I think I am out of my league being in this game LOL.
I had edo as scum because of lurk though. Gamma is the complete opposite.

Well it's true. Ask him. I have more than 80% accuracy reading Gamma vs less than 40% average in general (and some players I have less than 10% hit rate on them).

The meme was referring to a game I was so sure he was scum I fake claimed a guilty on him and his response convinced others to lynch him even after I declared it was fake (and he did flip scum).

@Gamma: your catchup comes from scum Gamma. It reminds me a lot of a scum sub-in and catch up you did last time we played. Is this playstyle/do you catch up the same as town (if so can you link something I guess).

@Performer: See? I'm not the only one who can see through that facade Gamma's putting on. I'm just as convinced Osuka is Scum so I don't mind lynching her first.

this is a shitty post and a shittier attempt at pushing the gamma slot. you can't just claim "i know how to read this player and nobody else does" and expect an actual discussion to exist, because that's an argument that's at least partially subjective and very difficult to refute

[osuka]

KHAN dont be lurky. You're supposed to be showing me how to be awesome.

C'mon EspeciallyTheLies.. You're on indefinite V/LA and you're going to bust my balls for lurking?

But I'm bored waiting for responses, so I should do something.

VOTE: Osuka

lol what

[osuka]

Quick association ISO:

- Osuka doesnt mention Vox even once

- Vox says one thing about Osuka:

I have no read on Osuka but I could vote there, but I would prefer GoldenRob. Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?

Says he would vote there but tries to subtlety hint that the wagon isnt good.

my guy you're trying to run associations under the assumption that i'm scum, but if i do get lynched today i'll flip green and i hope you're at the top of everyone else's lynch pools tomorrow. i haven't acknowledged vax because there was nothing to engage him on, and honestly he's right in the sense that the wagon you spawned hinges on 112

[osuka]

not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.

a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.

khan can be town for now

I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?

just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really

That’s not how I interpret it at all, he seems perfectly fine

agree to disagree i suppose

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #17

Performer (1) - EspeciallyTheLies (515)
Almost50 (0) -
Golden Robster (1) - Vaxkiller (678)
Pine (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -

Edosurist

Gamma Emerald (1) - Lovebird (259)
Ausuka (1) - Scioness Sajj (406)
Lalendra (1) - WhemeStar (234)
Lovebird (1) - Andriod18 (290)
JarJarDrinks (2) - Myloninja13 (326), Osuka (353)

Osuka (9) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Pine (176), Almost50 (390), JarJarDrinks (535), Performer (623), TheRampage (681), Hopkirk (696), Kublai Khan (725)

Andriod18 (0) -
Texcat (1) - ArcAngel9 (604)
ArcAngel9 (0) -

Charles510

Vaxkiller (3) (1C / 2V) - Wavemode (131) (C), Golden Robster (602) (V), Gamma Emerald (710) (V)
Wavemode (0) -
TheRampage (1) - Ausuka (743)
Myloninja13 (1) - Creature (720)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Flavor Leaf, Lalendra (559)

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on June 30, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.
Prodded Lovebird. They have (expired on 2018-06-24 09:40:11) to respond in-thread.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77)
Srceenplay (0): (Null)
Peformer: Osuka (623)
Joral (0): (Null)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) --> Osuka (390)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster: Almost50 (177) --> Wavemode (183) --> Osuka (236) --> Ausuka (317) --> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602)
Pine: Osuka (176)
Creature: Performer (385) --> Myloninja13 (720)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) --> Osuka (725)
WhemeStar: Lalendra (234)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90) --> Lalendra (279) --> Osuka (696)
Edosurist: Texcat (84) --> Almost50 (222)
Gamma Emerald: Vaxkiller (710)
Ausuka: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743)
Lalendra: Almost50 (209) --> (Null) (559)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83) --> Performer (515)
Lovebird: Edosurist (259)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> Almost50 (114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) --> Osuka (535)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353)
Texcat: Osuka (79)
Andriod18: Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller: JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131)
TheRampage: Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) --> Osuka (681)
Myloninja13: Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326)
Scioness Sajj: Ausuka (406)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[osuka]

updated lynch pool, in no particular order:

performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage


those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum
VOTE: performer
since people dont wanna talk about jarjar

[Ausuka]

those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum

4/6 is very optimistic.

performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage

Feel pretty confident there's 0 scum in {perf, a50, hopkirk} but idk how to explain that to you. I played with perf on my old account as both scum and town and I don't think I ever read him incorrectly, but he's massive mislynch bait in general, partially because his tone is awkward and unnatural to most people? I don't know exactly. Join me on Rampage? I feel like he's likely scum jumping on your wagon.

[osuka]

i can join you on rampage, sure. i still think performer is scummy af but as i said i'm happy to put pressure and discuss any of those names
VOTE: rampage

[Kublai Khan]

Actually. Kublai, do you have any reason to not vote for JarJar?

No. He's not on my townlist right now. But not near the top of the scumlist either. If other people weren't pushing him, I might be.

at this point in time, jarjar has 3 votes on him. that's barely a wagon

why are you trying to hard to not do anything meaningful?

Neat. You've barely talked about me all game. I vote you, then suddenly you scum-read me with only rhetorically loaded questions thrown my way.

I like WhemeStar and one of {TheRampage/Performer} as your partners too.

[Myloninja13]

I'm not really thinking Osuka is scum here tbh.

[Kublai Khan]

I'm not really thinking Osuka is scum here tbh.

Why?