Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[mastina]

Hi there! Apologies for my absence.
I may or may not be able to perform all moderator duties before I leave for work but will finish anything I leave hanging once I'm back.

Flavor?

Flavor will be placed here if mastina has the capacity to give it. No promises!

Votecount 2-11 (51) Simple

MathBlade - 5 (RadiantCowbells, CheekyTeeky, Theta Alpine, Nosferatu, NicoRobin)

RadiantCowbells - 2 (MathBlade, Vecna)

Theta Alpine - 1 (projectmatt)
Aronis - 1 (Keychain)
NicoRobin - 1 (Aronis)
CheekyTeeky - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)

Not Voting - 3 (Creature, Ankamius, hebichan)

Mod Notes

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Keychain is V/LA until Saturday, June 23rd.
  
• Seeking an Aronis replacement.
  
• mastina will generate a more advanced votecount if she has the capacity to give it. No promises!

[mastina]

Mastina can we have a prod check for like everyone that hasn’t posted in 24 hours?

<<< The only player I am aware of having prod-dodged and failing to meet activity requirements is projectmatt, who will be prodded. (Plus Aronis, who will be replaced.) As far as I know, every other player has met activity requirements of posting game-relevant content within the last 72 hours. (I will of course be verifying.) Pokes, however, were delivered by Jingle. >>>

[mastina]

<<< projectmatt is being prodded.
He has this long to post content, or he will be replaced: (expired on 2018-06-25 17:35:02).

As Aronis failed to respond to his prod, he will be replaced. >>>

[RadiantCowbells]

scum just won't bus huh.

[RadiantCowbells]

i reserve the right to be as toxic as the MS ruleset allows me to be if this game continues for another 24 hours.

this is disgusting.

[Nosferatu]

is this the boy who cried wolf playing out in mafiascum right here

[RadiantCowbells]

the guilty's real: I couldn't get as much information on other slots if I was open about it so I approached it how I did.
that said you're still talking about someone with a record of successfully claiming guilties on scum, so 'oh the guilty is fake' when I'm taking it this seriously shouldn't even be in question.

[projectmatt]

it's been a rough week so i haven't been able to post, but excuses are dumb. i will catch up and post on monday.

2) RC is town and had something manipulate the check.

is this an actual possibility? like, does this happen?

[Nosferatu]

no

[Vecna]

if I die instead of the PT cop or vig I've done my job for town, I can solve the game here and it doesn't mean it's going to be listened to

if I'm alive to tomorrow I'll figure out the rest of the gaem.

In the category "things an actual tracker with a guilty would not say".

[Vecna]

Some things that bother me;
-The guilty is obviously fake, but for some reason noone but Math has pointed out it should have two results. Like, are the people in his hood suddenly convinced he's scum? Or why havent they pointed out a track should also lead to person X?
-If were wrong on Math and there is another scum in that hood, they can take it over tonight and have two NKs going forward. Wont work if the person recruited is town ofcourse. Is already guaranteed if a scum got recruited into it.
-Why is Mathblade not fighting for his survival if his death is likely to mean a double NK scenario? Wtf is going on

[Vecna]

Also RC, are you still of the thought that Ank is indeed in that hood? If so, why do your teams of scum have her as scum with Math?

[MathBlade]

it's been a rough week so i haven't been able to post, but excuses are dumb. i will catch up and post on monday.

2) RC is town and had something manipulate the check.

is this an actual possibility? like, does this happen?

It does if scum have a redirector and took RC and placed him on the killer.

However that would require scum acting suboptimally.

[MathBlade]

Some things that bother me;
-The guilty is obviously fake, but for some reason noone but Math has pointed out it should have two results. Like, are the people in his hood suddenly convinced he's scum? Or why havent they pointed out a track should also lead to person X?
-If were wrong on Math and there is another scum in that hood, they can take it over tonight and have two NKs going forward. Wont work if the person recruited is town ofcourse. Is already guaranteed if a scum got recruited into it.
-Why is Mathblade not fighting for his survival if his death is likely to mean a double NK scenario? Wtf is going on

I wasn’t fighting because as I said I just got off of surgery and I have limited energy. I also in order to not be lynched have to play this like scum because my town play only incentivizes people to mislynch my butt.

I am literally relying on people in my hood to quit being lurksacs and help.

[MathBlade]

i reserve the right to be as toxic as the MS ruleset allows me to be if this game continues for another 24 hours.

this is disgusting.

You need death.

The next night phase is longer than 24 hours.

You are really making me want to replace our but I joined this game as a favor to Mastina so it would run. The last thing I wanna do is replace out. I would rather we lynch your scumbutt.

[Creature]

There's plurality anyway

[Theta Alpine]

UNVOTE:

radiant please full claim with specifics or tell us it was fake

mastina

if a hypothetical neighborhood gets to vote on an targeted action that is made during the night without having to specify who performs the action then what would happen in the following two scenarios
- if a tracker or equivalent role targets a member of the neighborhood
- if a watcher or equivalent role targets the player that the neighborhood targeted

<<< Answered in 2415. >>>

[Theta Alpine]

i reserve the right to be as toxic as the MS ruleset allows me to be if this game continues for another 24 hours.

this is disgusting.

as an aside to this
radiant you should understand that some people are paranoid and will not vote with you just because you are almost always right
if you are town then the best play here is to convince people that you are actually telling the truth
people are not going to just follow you blindly

[Nosferatu]

he's RC, how the fuck is he gonna convince people he's telling the truth?

[Keychain]

Back and skimmed up on the last ~10 pages. I'm not going to search out exact quotes right now, but points from reread:

>aa9 ignoring me to scumread Cheeky for ignoring her is hilarious

>if by retraction being planned from the start RC means that he thinks I would

ever

strategically request a replace out intending to stay in, regardless of alignment, I'm severely disappointed
>More on him, since he's intent on being the centre of attention. For context, I don't believe his guilties because he fakes them too often, and I don't believe his fake guilties because his hard scumreads are not right often enough. Not after hard pushing doc!Cheeky in that newbie game and the Elena scumread in my TM game. Those are just the ones I've been in. And oh yeah, Luna Nova - faking a guilty on a three headed town slot, wowee
>So it's bloody tempting to lynch him for being annoying and deliberately difficult to work with. Not sure if he'd take this approach as scum though, and "bullshit scumread on me" is generally more town indicative than not
>If we're sheeping the dead though as he's complaining we won't if he dies, Luna Nova was scumreading RC which was

why he lynched them

>I see Aronis is being replaced but I don't feel particularly motivated to move my vote off that slot right now

>HWS's points on Cheeky are fairly solid and worth looking into. She's really cruising

>Nosferatu is the best part of this game and in the continuing theme of sheeping the dead, a strong townread of A50 iirc?

>Did northsidegal flake without saying anything?

>congrats on the exam Cheeky!

[RadiantCowbells]

the guilty claim yesterday was just a meme and reaction test. this is neither.

also keychain is scum.

[MathBlade]

he's RC, how the fuck is he gonna convince people he's telling the truth?

By using words and such.

I am clearly town as demonstrated throughout.

RC is just s boy who cries wolf while being a werewolf and points out me as a wolf when I am just a boy.

[Nosferatu]

the guilty's real: I couldn't get as much information on other slots if I was open about it so I approached it how I did.
that said you're still talking about someone with a record of successfully claiming guilties on scum, so 'oh the guilty is fake' when I'm taking it this seriously shouldn't even be in question.

[RadiantCowbells]

Key is probably scum as well btw

I think the retraction was planned from the outset

this referred not to the replace out but you coercing mathblade to take back the counterclaim.
i've considered replacing out but I'm probably at the point where I'd rather wait for other ongoings to end and take more decisive action.

[RadiantCowbells]

the good news is that this is probably the game that makes me never want to play mafia again.