I'd be more inclined to agree with you had his flake not been site-wide. It's hard to pin the replace out on this game going south when it wasn't limited to here.In post 1399, MagnaofIllusion wrote:On why Tywin’s replace-out is a reasonable to be indicative of scum:
In a non-Open set-up a Town investigation role is pretty much the golden ticket to not being lynched, especially Day 1 unless you are playing in a game with really, really bad Town players. If you think this isn’t the case stop reading because your POV will never reconcile with mine. You can see evidence of the strength of an Investigation claim in OldMan’s continued survival today – even with his bad play and Day 1 IC fake-claim people generally are willing to let him live for at least a few days til his claim is busted or proves likely true.
So put yourself in Tywin’s shoes as hypothetical Town Even Night Cop on Day 1. He’s getting pressure and despite his attempts to explain his thoughts the pressure is not abating. Town Tywin knows regardless of how bad his play is he’s got his claim in his pocket. And as hypo-Town has to believe he will not get counterclaimed by scum because that is effectively a death sentence for one scum by Day 2 (setting aside the current potential conflict with OldMan’s claim which Day 1 was unknown).
Is it possible Tywin Town just decided the game wasn’t fun and flaked despite having a powerful Town role? Yes. Is it also possible that Tywin isn’t a Town Investigative role and felt flaking and getting a potential replacement halo for his slot was better served than trying to continue to fake hunting for scum in the face of pressure. There is enough reasonable scum motivation in the way Tywin’s flake developed that I am considering it as part of my overall read on that slot.
No replace out / flake is purely alignment indicative (and if it is that player should probably be banned for using Trust tells if it is Town indicative or quit playing Mafia if scum indicative). But the nature of Tywin’s flake given the subsequent claim by Lycan puts it as within the realm of reason.
I could be persuaded on Axel but I've been pretty back & forth on him all game. Last place I landed was regretting voting for him at end of yesterday with his last minute effort to avoid being lynched. I think there's a good case for him being scum, though, & he's doing that non-committal "not voting anyone for long periods of time" thing again.In post 1394, Momrangal wrote:Kison, if the difficulty of the two wagons worried you, why do you decide to go after pine, and not lycan who was the other person who had a hard time getting lynched?
For Lycan, by play alone I think that slot is the scummiest of anyone in the game right now. The impulsive side of me wants to lynch him now, but I can't see how it would be a good play in any way with the role he's claimed. We'll get more information by seeing what happens tonight.
In post 1412, Korts wrote:
