Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

[Bernie Sanders]

also shoshin, you trying to call the scumteam D1 reads as scummy and is my least fav thing you've done this game

I think playing with you I'll just always get hot flashes of paranoia, won't I

Like what if you're buddying me and really good at it
Oh well. It's honestly fine for now if it's true
Consider me buddied, we're buddies now. Buddied up from now till lylo see you then <3

latter part of this reads fake to me

[Bernie Sanders]

scum gamma is starting to be possible given he still hasnt dropped the tells I expect

[Mathdino]

scum gamma is starting to be possible given he still hasnt dropped the tells I expect

Completely agree, fam, a wagon could help with gamma

[Irrelephant11]

@Skitter

Wait but I did ultimately provide those thoughts tho right? Like I talked about the *feels* and I actually explained them and related them to your early posts and how you continued to do it as you posted and I didn't like that but didn't think it was enough to be sure you're scum esp. given you had a good response

@Bernie

haha okay
that's sort of a continuation/joking about the last game we were in together, just me having fun

You seem to think some of my posting is "fake" but haven't said if you scumread it or not. Are you waiting for someone else to do that for you?

[Keyser Söze]

Irrelephant11
Shoshin
stungun0404
Keyser Soze

Mathdino
Bernie

Nauci
the worst
northsidegal*
Invisibility

Gamma Emerald
skitter

Why is Gamma down there?

What have I done to deserve being higher? You haven't seemed to have that high of an opinion of me so far so this is off-color imo.

You have disappointed me in the following areas:
- attitude
- pro-active sorting contribution thus far
- laid back nonchalance to a challenging game
- timing of choosing when to offer an opinion

None of these points I would label in my personal ‘bottom scum read’ category.


But I can empathisize with mom’s later explanation of why SHE has you down there.

I also know it is within your ability to redeem yourself however, as you are a quality player. Hence my frustration.

[Keyser Söze]

Wow did not see the Irrelephant11-scum-angle at all. Is it I who has been pocketed??? That is a fresh take I will need convincing on.

[Keyser Söze]

@keyser, since I’m having trouble with this myself, I’d like you to build opposing cases for a town—bernie sanders and a scum—bernie sanders and see which alignment adds up more to you. can you help me out with this? i’m gonna look into him when i have the chance myself.

I feel your frustration. I think the enigmatic Bernie sanders is the most challenging slot of this playerlist to sort. I will look at him next as part of my reads summary.

[Keyser Söze]

haha instead of going to internet i took a really nice nap and now i have 12 pages to read

bleh i dont want to read the game right now
[excuse]

This is genius

[Bernie Sanders]

VOTE: The worst

I want this wagon the most ATM
In addition to the tonal stuff (411 409 599) and gemini's replace timing I haven't seen a clear direction TW is taking with his progression this game
in other words despite his presence I'm not sure he's trying to work towards anything and I'd expect for example him to have followed up momrangal vote a bit by now if that was what he was interested in

I'm townreading skitter as well and she comes to similar judgment on TW with some experience, mathdino seemed more inconclusive (and math align itself I can see going either way)

[Bernie Sanders]

furthermore I get the feeling TW/gemini slot has gotten less attention/interest proportionately I'd expect here if that makes sense, given people's expressed concern/stances, though admittedly that may be confbiasy

[the worst]

if you want anything strikingly exciting from me you'll probably have to wait for later this week / weekend, understand the wagon given gamestate tho

[Keyser Söze]

Unlucky mate, tough replace in. You did your best.

[the worst]

Fam I haven't even gotten going yet.

[Keyser Söze]

Your strongest ‘town’ read wants to kill you bro

[the worst]

I said he was town not that he had good reads

[Bernie Sanders]

@Bernie

haha okay
that's sort of a continuation/joking about the last game we were in together, just me having fun

You seem to think some of my posting is "fake" but haven't said if you scumread it or not. Are you waiting for someone else to do that for you?

No, I liked you earlier but the vote thing was weird enough to comment. Your response there reads genuine enough though
Mmm I just kinda get a pocketing vibe there but on ISO I guess you have been thinking of shoshin enough to make that reaction plausible

You are right in that I'm wondering if I might've given someone a pass too early here

[Irrelephant11]

Okay... I didn’t actually say or suggest that but okay.


Math when you get srs on wednesday can you drop the rapping

It’s been fun but I’ll have more fun if you make a transition to being clearer at some point

[Bernie Sanders]

TW who do you think is scum?
if deadline was right now I want some names of who would you lynch and in what order

also interested in your momrangal read, I read it you saying she's NAI and voting my impression was as pressure but then she did content and I haven't seen you respond/update there

[Bernie Sanders]

Okay... I didn’t actually say or suggest that but okay.

No but that basis speaks to "You seem to think some of my posting is "fake" but haven't said if you scumread it or not."

[skitter30]

@Skitter

Wait but I did ultimately provide those thoughts tho right? Like I talked about the *feels* and I actually explained them and related them to your early posts and how you continued to do it as you posted and I didn't like that but didn't think it was enough to be sure you're scum esp. given you had a good response

a) I think that scumreading someone for a general writing style is really silly tbh; you can ctrl+f through like any of my town ISO's and you'll see that this is just how I write. Idk how I write as scum; I haven't played scum in close to a year and didn't pay attention to this at that time, but after multiple people brought up the 'feels' and 'likes' and 'I thinks' and tried to use that as a reason to scumread me, I became kinda aware of my writing style and like ... it's just how I write and I'll defend that the same way each time; I'm not changing my writing style just cuz people don't like it. (and honestly i predict that if i do people will tell me i feel fabricated probably)

b) like the *feels* is a really inane thing to pick on. like you're focusing on the style of my posts and not the *content*.

c) my point is that you voted me because you 'wanted more' when I had a fair amount of readable content. I pointed out that this was a silly reason to vote me given the context and you unvoted me. you never actually focused on my content till *after* you switched your vote off of me.

like it's weird to vote for someone because you want content when the content already exists and to then remove your vote upon being prompted by the person you voted for lack of content without commenting on said content till after you switch your vote.

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if anyone is good at tonereading can you tell me what you think of keyser? his posts feel kinda fake to me but i'm not super good at reading people this way in general

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I can't work out if skitter feels off because she's scum of because she's tunneling me. This is not a great point in our friendship for her to try and tone read me as a hard scumread.

i mean, you think I'm good at tonereading you? so this is like a weird thing for you to say? and *things i can't talk about right now*

and i'm not tunneling you.

duckling, when you have a chance can you talk about this a bit more? I'm actually really confused wrt to the tonereading thing.

[brassherald]

"As I have stated previously, I believe we need a national union, granted by an act of Parliament but bringing greater independence to our colonies. The French are an immediate threat and we are ill-prepared to face them. To put it bluntly, the colonies must join, or die."

Votecount 1.7

the worst(3)

~ Invisibility(28), skitter30(61), Bernie Sanders(81)

Nauci(3)

~ Mathdino(54), Shoshin(90), Irrelephant11(41)

skitter30(2)

~ Keyser Söze(85), Momrangal(27)

Momrangal(2)

~ northsidegal(5), the worst(68)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Nauci(18)


Not Voting (2): stungun0404(32), Gamma Emerald(34)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-02 17:10:00)

MOD REMINDERS

Searching for a replacement for northsidegal.

[the worst]

TW who do you think is scum?
if deadline was right now I want some names of who would you lynch and in what order

also interested in your momrangal read, I read it you saying she's NAI and voting my impression was as pressure but then she did content and I haven't seen you respond/update there

you're correct my Mom vote was mostly pressure. her response didn't rock my world so I'm gonna need to spend some time processing it.

kinda not an easy question to answer right now but maybe something like Mom > Gamma > Nauci right now, but my scumreads are currently the slots I also feel the most bland about...which has me realising I'll be deeply boring until I have more time.

Math nsg and skitter are viable scumspects but I have really low interest in pushing either of the 3 currently

[the worst]

need more posts brass?

[the worst]

duckling, when you have a chance can you talk about this a bit more? I'm actually really confused wrt to the tonereading thing.

literally no sorry

[the worst]

I BELIEVE IN YOU BRASS.......