Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Lavos]

sure let's do this

VOTE: AA9

[Mathdino]

VOTE: AA9

I can't wait for the THAT WAGON ROSE TOO FAST

Despite the fact that UglyDuck had no counterwagons and I'm the only one who gives a shit about defending him

[Scioness Sajj]

hmmm

[Scioness Sajj]

you have made a new wagon! what's now?

btw UD was a counter wagon to US. Does counter wagon need a counter wagon?

[HeWhoSwims]

VC2

UnrealSeal (1) (L-5):

UglyDuck

Mathdino (1) (L-5):

UnrealSeal

UglyDuck (5) (L-1):

BuJaber, wavemode, Awoo, Scioness Sajj, ArcAngel9

ArcAngel9 (3) (L-3):

mutantdevle, Lavos, Mathdino

Not voting: Myloninja13

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2018-07-09 09:20:59)

UglyDuck is at L-1

[BuJaber]

And aa9 was already a counterwagon to duck on day 1.

Boring news: apparently dino was the only one who lied about his neighbors. No catching scum that way sadly coz for Dino it's NAI.

Why did aa9 wagon rise so fast on day 1 when I (one of the ones pushing for it) wasn't even voting on it. Did you think about that?

[UglyDuck]

OK....

1) As I believe I have mentioned, I have been 100% off of my phone for the past 6 days. I have arrived back at home now.

2) @ WaveMode:
- Opening post: I already posted previously that it sounded like narration because it was. I was taking notes, catching up on the game, and then posted it so my stances on players would be known. I do not know why you find that skummy. I also don't know why you find the amount of TRs I had skummy. I tend to find most players townish early in games... cuz most of them are.
- End of D1 - I was not unwilling to get on "any wagon at the end of the day". I stated (multiple times... like from the beginning of the game...) that I did not like the AA9 or Sci wagons. At no point in time was I ever on board with them. Trying to spin it as otherwise is annoyingly lame. I also did push a wagon (Mutant), but no one liked it. And then, you have no way of knowing I was not going to hammer Invis.... I asked for a VC, it was given by the guy I think is skum, and then I started re reads.... during the reads I added up the count and realized it was hammered already (as I pointed out).
-META: this is the fun one. You want to go and meta dive me? Go and look at all my games - everyone like always thinks I am skum early in the game. Also, you are referencing one exact town game I have played in your post about my play style - and even in that game I lurked and was suspected early. I only started contributing like post Day 3 or something.


3) Awoo:
- I meant pasties
- I am home now, and will sit down and do iso's. If I am still alive in an hour or so I will even share my thoughts on them.

[BuJaber]

Paraphrase Duck's pt interactions.

[Lavos]

Why did aa9 wagon rise so fast on day 1 when I (one of the ones pushing for it) wasn't even voting on it. Did you think about that?

According to the votecounts AA9 wagon developed slowly

[Lavos]

And it developed about the same time as UD wagon and was bigger than it at most points so idk how you can argue that AA9 was just a counterwagon to UD

[UglyDuck]

finishing in the morning (6-7 hours from now). need to sleep. will post when I wake up and finish.

[Lavos]

UD you should vote aa9

[BuJaber]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

GET FUCKED, UGLYDUCK WAGON, THAT GUY IS TOWN

I HEREBY DECLARE THIS THE COUNTERWAGON TO EVIL MOTHERDUCKERS TRYNA LYNCH MY TOWNREADS

WE LYNCH PEOPLE WHO AREN'T BEING TOWNREAD LET'S GO

1

I suppose you have a point

VOTE: ArcAngel9

2

Conclusions:
Townpool in {scioness, math, invis (?), seal, duck}
not likely mafia {bujab}
content not found { mylo}
kinda ignored them while i was reading {winggirl, wave}
Killpool in {mutant, nsg, angel}
VOTE: arcangel9

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Within like a page.
Dino literally calling it a counterwagon to UD.

[BuJaber]

Dino might be scum so I don't care that he calls it a counterwagon but you think he's town and you're on the same wagon so thought maybe that'd have an impact on you

[BuJaber]

VC11

ArcAngel9 (1) (L-6)

: UnrealSeal

mutantdevle (1) (L-6):

UglyDuck

Scioness Sajj (1) (L-6):

Invisibility

UnrealSeal (1) (L-6):

wavemode

Invisibility (7) (L-0)

: BuJaber, Mathdino, Awoo, mutantdevle, Myloninja13, Scioness Sajj, northsidegal

Awoo (1) (L-6):

ArcAngel9



Not voting: wingedcatgirl

So what do we think the split is? 1 on wagon 1 off wagon or 2 off wagon?

I don't think it could be 2 on wagon given that at the end it seemed obvious invis will be lynched so scum wouldn't need to push it.

Off wagon:
Invis flipped town
Wavemode is town
Seal is null
Duck/aa9 I don't think are a team.
Wingetcatgirl/lavos - possible scum
So if we think both are off wagon aa9 has to be with seal or catgirl which I'm not seeing at the moment.

Same with duck. So I think it's quite safe to assume 1 off 1 on wagon.

On wagon since Dino is a policy lynch either tomorrow or next day that leaves Awoo, mutant, mylon, sajj.

Mylon everybody seems to think is town so I'll take their word for it for now. Sajj seemed townie to me day 1 hence the arguments with nsg.

So vote duck/lavos or Awoo/mutant.

Aa9 isn't a terrible lynch and definitely could be scum but still undeniable that it was a counterwagon and one that grew quickly

[BuJaber]

UD you should vote aa9

That would be cool considering they're neighbors. Though also the last time someone voted for their neighbor it was mutant on invis who flipped town.

[Myloninja13]

I'm back from my V/LA, and I can get to this within 4~ hours!

[Lavos]

Yeah that definitely counts as a counterwagon and I missed that, sorry

It doesn't make aa9 town and UD scum though

[Lavos]

Just because scum don't have much motivation to push one wagon doesn't mean they're not on it, it just means they're not >random likely to be on it IMO. Like scum could have voted Invis if they felt it's what they would do as town

[Lavos]

Actually nvm that last comment I don't think both scum were on invis anyway

[Lavos]

I'm kinda wondering why it was so hard to get a Seal wagon going when nobody other than mutant seems to townread him

[mutantdevle]

Maybe because y'all aren't confident in how you scum read him?

[Lavos]

ANNOUNCEMENT: IN CASE THIS WAS NOT CLEAR I OFFICIALLY AND DEFINITELY SCUMREAD UNREALSEAL. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

[wavemode]

i hardclaim doublevoter

intent to hammer

[Awoo]

do it big guy i dare you