Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Theta Alpine

[RadiantCowbells]

You can vote math or I'm voting you.

Your decision theta.

[RadiantCowbells]

win or lose this game was so not worth it.

[Theta Alpine]

might as well vote me then radiant

although a question first [both math and radiant]
do either of you think all scum were on luna novas wagon

[zMuffinMan]

who do you actually think is scum apart from mathblade, RC?

[RadiantCowbells]

keychain
at least 1 of theta/vecna

[Theta Alpine]

that answers my question

mathblade do you think all scum were on luna novas wagon

[MathBlade]

Votecount 1-40 (040) Simple (Final D1)

Luna Nova - 10 (Almost50, HeWhoSwims, Vecna, Nosferatu, CheekyTeeky, RadiantCowbells, Theta Alpine, hebichan, MathBlade, Aronis)

HeWhoSwims - 4 (Luna Nova, Creature, Keychain, Yuurei)

TheGoldenParadox - 2 (northsidegal, ArcAngel9)
northsidegal - 1 (TheGoldenParadox)

Not Voting - 1 (Ankamius)

Mod Notes

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No I don’t.

It was protown to end the apathy.

Scum if they were all on it would have to frontload and I haven’t ever seen a frontloaded all scum wagon d1.

[MathBlade]

that answers my question

mathblade do you think all scum were on luna novas wagon

Sorry phone posting.

[mastina]

Flavor?

Flavor will be placed here if mastina has the capacity to give it. No promises!

Votecount 2-18 (58) Simple

MathBlade - 5 (zMuffinMan, Nosferatu, NicoRobin, RadiantCowbells, Creature)

RadiantCowbells - 2 (ArcAngel9, Gamma Emerald)

Theta Alpine - 2 (projectmatt, MathBlade)
NicoRobin - 1 (Theta Alpine)
Gamma Emerald - 1 (Keychain)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)
hebichan - 1 (Ankamius)

Not Voting - 2 (hebichan, Vecna)

Mod Notes

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• MathBlade is V/LA until Thursday, June 27th.
  
• Seeking a Keychain replacement.
  
• projectmatt is V/LA for a few days.
  
• mastina will generate a more advanced votecount if she has the capacity to give it. No promises!

[hebichan]

I don't think RC's result is real, the question is if I should trust he's able to read you so good to the point to fake a guilty and yet still be correct or not.

+1

[hebichan]

VOTE: Mathblade

I think this is scum, but hoooo boy am I on the edge on wanting to vote RC policy wise.

[Creature]

I keep forgetting who Gamma replaced

[Creature]

Oh right, it was Aronis

[mastina]

<<< I realize that I am already facing some difficulty getting a replacement already, and also that to some extent the damage has already been done; taking this action now doesn't magically make things be healed. However, I am going to be taking moderator intervention, due to a violation of these rule:

Rules

Rules

:

• Site rules apply.
  
• Have fun, but
  don't be a jerkass
  . Toxicity will earn force-replacement.

MISCELLANEOUS:

1. Got a complaint? Raise it! I'll do what I can.
   
2. Follow spirit of rules
   ; loophole abuse will be dealt with severely.

[Ankamius]

just confirming that I'm retracting my replace out

I'll be back tomorrow

good night

[ArcAngel9]

VOTE: arcangel9 [for reasons explained in the p-edit]

alright there are three primary redirection roles

a scum bus driver would not drive two scum members
best use case in that situation would have been swapping a known pr with the person doing the night kill [for the sake of brevity referred to as the killer after this]
or swapping someone with the night kill and adjusting the shot accordingly [which brings up the interesting question of how a trackers action would be resolved if they tracked the killer in that case][although in this case if math was the target of the redirection then the only way radiant can get that result was if almost50 also targeted math and thus himself and math would still more likely be town or possibly a traitor in this case]

a deflector would have deflected any actions targeting the killer to another person
if mathblade was the killer then whoever it got redirected to would also have targeted almost50 in order for radiant to get his result[or in a situation where they deflected any actions on the killer to almost50 then almost50 targeting math and thus himself would also cause radiants result]

a redirector probably would have tried redirecting mathblade [only living claimed pr at that point] onto someone else
i do not see a plausible way that a redirectors interference could cause your result though since even if they did target radiant they probably would not have redirected him onto the person doing the night kill [unless we have a town redirector in which case claim your effective guilty already]

p-edit
that is actually a good point
i am voting radiant but i know he might have been biased by having what he thought was a guilty throughout the day [not entirely sure if radiant is town but also not sure if radiant is scum]
and in addition why are we even lynching within the luna wagon
i highly doubt all the scum were on luna and there are fewer people alive that were off the wagon then were on the wagon

at any rate it might be best if we consider radiant v math as possible tvt for now and look elsewhere

final

note and why i voted at the beginning of this post
why is arcangel town
i have seen a few people say that but i do not really understand those reads looking through angels iso

p-edit again
radiant if you are a tracker could you please consider the fact that math is likely town because of your result
if you are not a tracker then just tell us and we can stop telling you why your result is mechanically nigh impossible if math was actually the person who did the night kill

Let me prove you wring. I believe one of RC and Math has to be scum due to counter claim. I dont believe RC claim because of his trend of fake claims and troll.
so i went with RC. If Math flips town .. he has to be the scum and vice versa.
if the majority choosing math today, i am with everyone.

VOTE: Math

[MathBlade]

Finally.

Now we can play mafia.

Tomorrow I look forward to being able to fucking play.

[zMuffinMan]

Unvote

[zMuffinMan]

i'd prefer waiting for replacements before ending the day today tbh

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MathBlade - 7 (zMuffinMan, Nosferatu, NicoRobin, RadiantCowbells, Creature, hebichan, ArcAngel9)
Theta Alpine - 2 (projectmatt, MathBlade)
RadiantCowbells - 1 (Gamma Emerald)
NicoRobin - 1 (Theta Alpine)
Gamma Emerald - 1 (Keychain)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)
hebichan - 1 (Ankamius)

Not Voting - 1 (Vecna)
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current before i unvoted

where's the scum here and why did the mathblade/RC conflict stall for so long prior to just recently?

(i'm currently thinking vecna town, hebi town, hewhoswims town via hebi, RC town, maybe ankamius town)

(maybe nosferatu, if mathblade is scum)

[zMuffinMan]

i don't actually want to have to read the whole game

@anyone: cliffsnotes on why any of {nico, creature, AA9, projectmatt, gamma, theta, keychain} are more likely to be town or scum (preferably with links or references to something specific i can look at)

[Gamma Emerald]

i really hope gamma is scum.

lolpls
after someone gives a comprehensive description of redirector effects you change your results to match and it's still complete horseshit? That reads of scum trying to take any route to their desired lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

by the way

literally everyone in this game not voting mathblade right now owes me an apology when mathblade flips scum or don't talk to me ever again.

If he somehow does sure I'll apologize
but if not you have to apologize to the game for making it toxic
deal?

[Gamma Emerald]

Sure

VOTE: Math

Hi
actually read what RC has done to try and lynch Mathblade and then tell me you think this vote is remotely acceptable

[Gamma Emerald]

let me put it this way
the actions that occur the following night will help clarify what is going on with math and radiant

so we should focus off of that for today until we have more information

Let's wait for radiant to be nightkilled then say that he must have been redirected so math is conftown!

I promise: if you get nightkilled by scum I'll be considering what you're saying no matter what you flip.