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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 474, TrinityNZ wrote:
In post 472, GuerillaWoo wrote:Sheeping isn't inherently bad, the accusation just means "I don't think you arrived at this read independently and you're parroting what someone else said". A lotta times it can just be a prod, a "why did you agree with this". If you're scum and do it effectively, it isn't bad. It's really just copying someone else's homework for the grade.

I am curious, who are your scum reads currently? Now that you've gotten more of a hang on the game and what it entails, who do you think is bullshitting us? Does your disagreement with my segregating the thread into those reads extend past your inclusion in the scummy group? Just looking for your thoughts.
Thanks for that. I was just typing up my reads, so you can see who I think is bullshitting! (Sorry I don’t understand your third question - could you rephrase it thanks?
Just re-reading this - hope that second sentence didn’t come across as grumpy - it was meant to be a smiley face :)
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:06 am

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@nonny: Why would I coach E in the main thread rather than just do it in the mafia PT?

If you are not aware, current Newbie setup includes mafia daychat. I learned that when I was told it had changed from the old newbie setup.

Apparently it keeps people here as mafia, even though a traditional 2d3 setup would not have daychat.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:16 am

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I'm around kind of. I have read up. There are several questions for me. I will try to answer them later today. It's a busy day for me as I'm getting ready to drive across the country. I'll still be active as the wife and I will be swapping who's driving. I should be able to wall post for all the questions around lunch time.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:40 am

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In post 473, TrinityNZ wrote: I want to vote Bins, I think this makes it L-1.

VOTE: Bins
Putting someone at L-1 barely 24hrs into day 2 is bad play. Town does not benefit from a quick lynch. Also, personally uneasy with voting to that point when no official vote count has been posted recently, hence I asked for one from mod a few posts ago.
brassherald wrote:@nonny: Why would I coach E in the main thread rather than just do it in the mafia PT?

If you are not aware, current Newbie setup includes mafia daychat. I learned that when I was told it had changed from the old newbie setup.

Apparently it keeps people here as mafia, even though a traditional 2d3 setup would not have daychat.
I am aware, still have to remind myself, but aware. As I said, though upon reading my own post with fresh eyes some of it may look like rambling, the only reason I brought up the mild coaching is because it could be used for this argument. Which is WIFOM but I'm sure not unheard of.

To be clear I'm leaning town on brass, woo, sky.
Scum lean on Ice and trinity.

Okay, I really don't want to do this, but I also do not want to keep wasting time on Bins. Multiple people agreed if someone got to L-1 and you have confirmation they are town to claim. Bins is at L-1 (Woo, Ice, Trinity) are the votes. I don't know if I should straight out full claim, but don't want to hide anything either. I am Jailkeeper and I targeted Bins last night. If I didn't have this information, I would also still be on a Bins wagon, her posts are still scummy as can be. Again, we are already at L-1 and we are also wasting time on this wagon.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:55 am

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Nice. Since there was no doc cc we probably aren't in 2A which means nonny couldn't have been roleblocked which means nonny and Bins are conftown.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:56 am

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Will respond to questions when I'm not on mobile.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:22 am

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UNVOTE:

Nonny being jail keep changes a lot of things.

Just checking in. I will make a bigger post as soon as I can.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:43 am

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In post 453, nonny wrote:Skygazer what's your take on the post discussed in post 215 in hindsight?
Hmm, I could see coming from scum trying to hint at being a PR or from scum frustrated by the lack of presence of their partner in their private chat.
In post 453, nonny wrote:
In post 335, Skygazer wrote:I don't think lynching Bins today is the best idea for the record, for reasons I don't want to talk about yet.
I think it's time to talk about it....
Well as of 439 it was still disadvantageous to town to discuss, but now that Bins is conftown there's a strong chance she'll be nightkilled at this point anyways. In 335 I had realized that Bins could potentially be a power role and it would explain a lot of her behavior. The refusal to lynch a claimed doc reads as a PR trying to keep their protection around. The lurky posting/unwillingness to share townreads could be explained by a desire to not stick out as a good nightkill choice. The shift on her read on brass led me to believe that if I was right then she may have received an investigative result.

Bins, for obvious reasons, don't confirm if I'm right or wrong in that analysis.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:20 am

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Sky, that makes a lot of sense actually. I’m not encouraging a claim, but if we have a 3rd confirm town that’s awesome. Hypothetically, we did confirm #3 if Bins is investigative then I could target Bin again in night and protect her leading to a 4th confirm town or confirmed scum. Most likely I’d be Nk but that’s already likely to happen. But then we’d have day 3 with either confirmed scum or 3(4-1 NK) confirm townie, then finding scum between the two left should be much easier. It’s exciting to think about, but I still
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:22 am

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Jailkeeping a player would mean they wouldn't receive investigative results.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:24 am

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UNVOTE:

Alright, just woke up and haven't fully caught up, but yeah this is fair.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:34 am

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In post 484, Skygazer wrote:Jailkeeping a player would mean they wouldn't receive investigative results.
Then how does your theory work? Leaving the Brass wagon must be related to something else for her. We didn’t have jailkeepr when I played last, all new to me. Got way to excited by that possibility, but basically the whole theory doesn’t hold water.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:35 am

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Also let's use the entire two weeks up if we have to. I'd love to get two scum in two day cycles.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:38 am

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1) She could've received a "no result" PM and have been lead to believe that that meant that brass hadn't visited anyone (the remaining power role has to be a tracker)
2) I was using that to support my theory as to why she could potentially be a power role before you claimed and included it to support my original thoughts
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:44 am

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Realized point 2 after I posted sky, sorry.

I agree Woo.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:45 am

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Jailkeeping means that the person is protected and cannot perform any night actions, not just that they cannot attack.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:50 am

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In post 489, nonny wrote:Realized point 2 after I posted sky, sorry.
No worries! Just clarifying.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:05 am

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So it's Ice and Trinity. I think that means we won, right? We won't be in LyLo until D4 and that gives us one more misslynch. So it doesn't matter so long as we Lynch within one of those two. It's a 50/50 chance either way and if we end up in D4 Lylo then we'll have to start over again cuz we'll have to read everyone all over again.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:48 am

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If we make it to LYLO, at this point, it's likely to be Guerilla, myself, and Sky. I doubt we make it there, but, I would suggest you read the thread BEFORE LYLO with an eye towards that idea. It'll probably be a pain to wait until LYLO comes.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:02 am

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VOTE COUNT 2.1


TrinityNZ (1) - nonny
GuerillaWoo (0) -
Skygazer (0) -
IcemanCh (2) - brassherald, Bins
nonny (0) -
brassherald (0) -
Bins (1) - TrinityNZ

Not Voting: Skygazer, IcemanCh, GuerillaWoo

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is Thursday, July 12th at 10:45 am PDT which is in
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:58 am

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In post 493, brassherald wrote:If we make it to LYLO, at this point, it's likely to be Guerilla, myself, and Sky. I doubt we make it there, but, I would suggest you read the thread BEFORE LYLO with an eye towards that idea. It'll probably be a pain to wait until LYLO comes.
Hahaha I was about to post exactly this but decided against it so as not to alert you or Sky to change your behavior
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:00 am

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I have to say, I've read both your ISOs and no part of me wants to lynch either of you. I really think we're gonna endgame the scumteam before LyLo.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:05 am

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So do I. I feel like it has to be Ice or trinity, unless one of you is just ridiculously good at scum.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:25 am

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So do you lynch me first or sky? I can tell you I"m town but, that doesn't really work. So I really hope that scum isn't in Brass, Woo, and Sky. If I have to self lynch to make things happen I'm willing to just tell me what you all want to do.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:30 am

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Right now I'm leaning Trinity.

VOTE: Trinity tell us why it shouldn't be you. Do you agree with this lynch within two strategy?

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