Listen, we can 100% decide, as a town, to vote Jays tomorrow. BUT, we should actually put effort into it and maybe even discover the scum team tomorrow.
tomorrow is going to a fucking mess
there is 100% no reason for jay's scum buddy not to push jay
and there is no reason for town not to push jay
we shouldnt read too much into tomorrow unless someone scumslips
however the scenario we should be watching for is
if jay flips roleblocker
then una is guaranteed dead
thus entering a game in which blackvoid/me and mylo and draynth decide final day i think?
alternatively if oiam flips scum
we have an entire day tmr to talk
best case scenario is of OIAM flips roleblocker which completely confirms una as doctor, una would be the target of tmr nk and then we have two chances at winning
Pretty sure this is going to happen. I'm not really optimistic about Jay flipping roleblocker based on how carelessly he played and that was a scum hammer so it has to be on town barring extreme trolling.
Can you go over your Myloninja townread? I've seen a few things that point to him being town but nothing that I feel good about. He's been floating by for most of the game.
In post 597, Myloninja13 wrote:Lylo is generally the one thing I'm always good at, so please please please let me do this. EVEN IF SOMEONE ELSE VOTES, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TOMORROW STRAIGHT AWAY. We have plenty of time, and we shouldn't let mayhem occur.
if we are to win we have to make a couple assumptions in worst case scenario
assume blackvoid+me+mylo are guaranteed town
assume jay is scum
the only decision left is draynth or una
I'm feeling its una, he has done a lot of talking and not a lot of action. he has thrown out advice and meta talk and defending himself, but the hallmark of a town player is scumhunting which una has done like none of.
however draynth has also done little scumhunting and has been lurky in general, but at least draynth sort of makes an attempt at scumhunting?
pedit:
i think mylo is town because when jay did the hammer, mylo reacted in a way that screamed town. at the very least, mylo has made an attempt at scumhunting and posted some very basic reads. in a game like this one, there are definitely better lynches than mylo. he has floated along but his few posts seem to come from a town perspective, being actively scumhunting and posting thoughts and such on the state of the game.
im not really picturing a scenario in which we gain anything from stalling tomorrow's lynch though, scum buddy will def vote up jay and town will vote up jay. any discussion about how tomorrow plays out will be filled with wifom and we should focus our reads on the developments of today and yesterday.
it takes a lot more effort to discredit bullshit than to post bullshit, and tomorrow's wifom potential is going to be a sea of bullshit for day 4. thus we need to take what happens tomorrow with a grain of salt.
In post 182, Myloninja13 wrote:Not really liking Ircher's early attack on lefty, I understand it was still RVS but I'm not thinking it was justified. And Ircher swapped to a town read on him with few posts that didn't read as particularly townish from me too.
I'm liking Draynth but It's probably less to do with me finding him town and more that he's being calm and working through things.
Okay, Ircher explained he was mostly trolling in regards to him attacking Lefty, which makes more sense.
I've played with both Una's town and scum games, and I personally think this is closer to his scum game, but I'll wait to see how it progresses.
Lefty is playing quite strong here.
Not liking FC so far, especially the duo of posts 110111
Kernel is a town lean so far.
I want to town lean OnlyIAmMe for a few posts like 133 and 134 but I'm having a very rare gut read on them being suspicious here. I can't really explain it, but I can't town read them without feeling like I'm wrong.
Ircher is playing more townish now.
I'm going to have to check up on scum and town Una, because I'm seeing a few things that remind of both.
Okay, I think that's it so far. Right now I'm feeling overall most comfortable with a FChariot vote, mostly from a lack of town reads from that slot.
VOTE: FChariot
imo i dont ever see scum making a post like this. and in a game like this its an assumption we have to make to win.
Between Draynth and UnaH, I still suspect UnaH more. Lefty was okay lynching your slot because he said that it'll re-iterate to him that UnaH is scum. Obviously upon your slot's townflip, that gives him an excuse to back off of UnaH.
There's also the fact that the initial UnaH wagon came from people accusing him of not wanting to wagon your slot (FC) and if I recall correctly, Lefty was one of those people. There was a LOT of tying each other to other people from both Lefty/UnaH in ways that didn't really make sense.
yeah we can talk about it, we should take some time to plan out day 4 because most likely neither me or black are going to be alive by then and then it will be lylo with three people with question marks over their heads
I'm personally more suspicious of Draynth than Una, but it is certainly not a done deal for me. I'm going to go look for what a Lefty/Draynth team would look like.
There's actually a LOT pointing towards Lefty/UnaH and almost nothing that rules them out. Draynth doesn't really have any interactions with Lefty that look unnatural or unlike a townie that genuinely townread him.
I'm going to come back and make a detailed post in a couple of hours. Huntress is in BST as per the VCs and it's 4:35AM so she's probably not going to lock it until then.
Jay, why did you once again hammer without giving intent?
"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
for scumreads here is a list of who is least to most suss in my pov:
OIAM
Mylo
Black
Una
Oka
Draynth
This seems pretty made up
Why would I be more of a townread than oka / black?
Why is Una a stronger townread than blackvoid?
"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
I saw blackvoid mention that he saw a lot of stuff indicating a lefty+jay / Una scumteam, @Oka do you have any idea what exactly he was talking about?
Lefty seemed to deathtunnel Una pretty hard in Day1, do you think scum would do this to their partner when there was a pretty decent chance that Una could've been lynched?
That being said when I think about it it seems more possible that scum could pull it off given they have day talk but I'm sure
"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
