Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[Nosferatu]

You CAN'T conftown garmr because he was jailed n1. It's just as likely that he was supposed to be the guy who killed for scum. Some MIGHT actually thinks that's even MORE likely here.

Well as I said in the post above, its ~40% more likely that he was the night kill target

Nos who's scum and why? Tommy pursued you on a regular basis and was town. Why am I scum for pursuing you?

scum is in {wave, tchill, aristo}

You're not scum for pursuing me, you're scum for your behaviour around the wagons. You're flighty, inconsistent, on both town lynches.

That list is not intended to be a team, but based on VCA, it makes sense as one.

[Tchill13]

I completely forgot about aristo. That's reasonable enough hough .

My main issue with you is that I haven't seen much scum motivation in your play but you're purposefully being hard to read. There's not much town motivation in your play either. No sorting or scum hunting from what I can tell.

With the fate of the game on the line I'm forced to lean town on nos. He DOES give slightly reasonable explanations for things. Even his read on me is understandable in that light.

[Nosferatu]

{bbt, NM, teacher, garmr} are a solid town block as far as i can see

{performer, geo} could go either way.

pedit: I two of my games ended so I should be good to switch to a bit of a more readable playstyle

[Tchill13]

I'll have to look at aristo again. I'll re-iso nos just to be sure.

Wave is increasingly becoming a good scum candidate along with geo.

[Tchill13]

@Garmr: Yeah, I get it's not the only element of your case, but it's the part that resonated the most with me.

I came to terms with Perf's silly, but I wish he could contain the silly to single posts, & refrain from multi-posting, especially with his current gif avatar.

@TC: Aren't you townreading WM? I'd like to hear more about your read on WM, briefly or in detail, I don't care which. It's important.

Why was my wave mode read the nail in the coffin? Would you have voted me if I had said wave is strong town?

[Tchill13]

Fine, I'm fine with this.
VOTE: TChill
L-2

& I guess I'm officially a non-competent player for my previous reads...

PEDIT: I'm pretty sure NM is not scum. Lefty was way too town.

I mean you're just saying NM's play is completely NAI because of the slot he replaced in.

I said something similar to ircher but not while I was pushing for a quick lynch that led to lylo.

[Tchill13]

Oh I forgot about aristo because I town cleared him because of who he replaced into.

I gave a similar reason for town clearing NM but seeing how it's almost guaranteed that one if these guys are scum...

That's not good enough.

[Tchill13]

Hey guys,

Which wagon composition is scummier?

Nos'

This is odd. Arthas pushed nos since replacing in. Then when asked a question that is obviously refuting the nos wagon ari says nos is scummier. Scummier USUALLY equals bad so I'd like an explanation here.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Tchill

Why? Because this was picking up steam?

[Tchill13]

This is the kinda game where NM's style really hurts. We're a day away from lylo. Absolutely no way to read you other than your predecessors play. We can't ask GUS any questions and we probably won't get any answers out of you. I suggest you actually participate or you're gonna be left to be sorted by the play of your slot rather than your play. It's the only option I have.

[Tchill13]

A slot that didn't make it past day 1 lol... NM's slot is practically unsortable. Idk. I just won't bother with that until km done with the rest of my reads.

[Tchill13]

Bbt is town because I had similar thoughts and reads to him early. I understand his play style. He's questioning all the counter wagons to nos.

[Tchill13]

So we have:

Garmr/teacher

Bbt

Nos/wave: still have to sort

Performer

Geo

[Tchill13]

If scum get a mislynch here they win right? 8 players. A night kill and lynch equals 6 players. 3 scum 3 town.

GEO IS FUCKING SCUM. LMAO DUDE.

[Tchill13]

Performer has been thrown around as scum by a ton of ppl.

Nos/wave/geo seems reasonable.

[Nosferatu]

other than the gamma push, performer has been town

[Tchill13]

can someone explain to me how nos is a better lynch than teacher or tommy at present

even if we lynch on wagon, in what universe is nos scummier than tommy egan this game

garmr's town, nos is town, vote teacher for fun and profit

because half the town are somehow convinced that nosfer or garmr are ever good lynches here

also, VOTE: tommy

nos is town

garmr's case against nos establishes why scum might want to do certain things nos has done, but not how they

necessarily

come from scum and not town. i think nos's responses to him consistently point out this flaw and also are how i'd expect town to react in his situation

Seriously, WTF?!. In what world do two scum vote the same slot sequentially together, and then stay together for 500+ posts, much less all three scum vote together? Were you drunk when you typed this?

this happens all the time dude...

HARD defending of nos. Continually disputes garmr but I "know" garmr is town. Agrees with my interpretation that garmr/performer could be scum buddies.

So if wave is scum I highly doubt performer is scum but I bet nos is.

Geo is a given scum at this point.

[Tchill13]

If scum get a mislynch here they win right? 8 players. A night kill and lynch equals 6 players. 3 scum 3 town.

GEO IS FUCKING SCUM. LMAO DUDE.

"you can PL me after WE'VE WON THE DAMN GAME."-geo

Sheesh lol.

[Tchill13]

I do believe we should claim and no lynch. That said I definitely want to talk to teacher and garmr before anything happens.

Alternatively I'd bet the game on GEO being scum but that's not important unless we refuse to no lynch.

[Performer]

Sigh .... I seriously don't want another wrong lynch. and since it's mylo and people somehow have bbt as town, I claim

Town Mason.

Can we consolidate on geo please.
Pedit: can we just go with one claim aka me, I don't want mass claim.

[Nosferatu]

Tommy consistently pushed nos. Hopped on invisibility because it was inevitable. Pushed nos more. Scum has no reason to lynch or nk Tommy unless nos is scum.

This implies that you think tommy was a scum-driven wagon

Tommy Egan (7): BlueBloodedToffee, wavemode, Nosferatu, teacher, Performer, Tchill13, Ircher

Your scumreads would have me believe you think me and wave were the driving force of tommy's lynch

[Tchill13]

Where did your push of geo and wave go nos?

[Tchill13]

Performer I would have liked to have the whole group give a statement on claiming before.

You're fucking joking that you're gonna be the only claim after claiming Mason right? Like what a bad idea. Another person can confirm your masonry.

[Nosferatu]

Where did your push of geo and wave go nos?

wave didn't react at all, which in itself is kinda scummy but not that much. He's still not town so it doesn't really matter.
geo never really got that big of a wagon.

we don't need the other mason to claim. the other mason is kind of obvious.

[Performer]

We could mass claim but I feel it's too risky to out more folks, despite what's going on. If others think it's a good idea, feel free to though. I just hate that we can't work together as a team, and you're already at L-2.