Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[Garmr]

Try to behave yourself. Do you believe the mason claim?

There's exactly one player I can imagine as mason to Perf. If they claim, I believe it, otherwise not.

basically same

I can't picture anyone.

[Tchill13]

Are you caught up garmr?

[Gosrir Elmer Odels]

@Perf: If you're really mason, then you might as well just name your partner, & provide breadcrumbs from them. (Because that one player that could be mason would have definitely breadcrumbed their mason, & told you about it.)

[Tchill13]

Or we can literally just let the other Mason claim.

[Aristophanes]

@Perf: If you're really mason, then you might as well just name your partner, & provide breadcrumbs from them. (Because that one player that could be mason would have definitely breadcrumbed their mason, & told you about it.)

I have read nothing since daystart but no. That's not how masons work.

Also Perf I keep thinking you're Vonflare when I click here! XD

[Garmr]

Are you caught up garmr?

BlueBloodedToffee

-Scum read by performer

Garmr

Confirmed not with Performer

Aristophanes

-Replaced from Gustavo who hard pushed Performer

Gosrir Elmer Odels

-Voted by Performer

Nosferatu

-Was voted by performer

Performer

-is performer

teacher

-scum read performer

wavemode

Voted performer

Not_Mafia

-was Voting performer

Tchill13

- Was voting performer.

Yeah but there's not one person who I can actually see being his mason buddy everyone has a reason we can rule them off.

[teacher]

@tchill - I’m caught up but going to be slow on responses today.

@geo- no worries. And thankfully history teacher.

@garmr - there’s one or two claims I’d believe.

@board - does anyone disagree that Performers claim should be confirmed?

[wavemode]

Are you caught up garmr?

BlueBloodedToffee

-Scum read by performer

Garmr

Confirmed not with Performer

Aristophanes

-Replaced from Gustavo who hard pushed Performer

Gosrir Elmer Odels

-Voted by Performer

Nosferatu

-Was voted by performer

Performer

-is performer

teacher

-scum read performer

wavemode

Voted performer

Not_Mafia

-was Voting performer

Tchill13

- Was voting performer.

Yeah but there's not one person who I can actually see being his mason buddy everyone has a reason we can rule them off.

you're naive, but im glad you posted this since we shouldn't be trying to out the mason in any case

[Tchill13]

It definitely should be confirmed

[Tchill13]

The people I'm already suspicious of are the ones saying we shouldn't claim.

[wavemode]

claiming today is valid if the masons haven't crumbed each other at all, i suppose

but that's horrible mason play

[wavemode]

in fact it's still not valid since they can still crumb it today. it's not even mylo or lylo yet

[Garmr]

in fact it's still not valid since they can still crumb it today. it's not even mylo or lylo yet

Tomorrow is Lylo.

[Garmr]

Well unless we lynch scum today.

[wavemode]

Right. so they can still crumb today and use the crumb tomorrow, assuming their partner dies, to prove their claim

[Tchill13]

I don't understand.

If there's no Mason claim in lylo and performer is killed I'm the night phase scum can cc with absolutely nobody to argue other than the actual Mason.

You say it's obvious who the mason is. I disagree.

If it's obvious they might as well claim. It is a scum agenda to allow a cc in lylo for scum.

[Garmr]

Performer is either town or scum making a lie. I just have trouble seeing any partner.

[Garmr]

By that I mean his town mason or scum lying.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have very quickly skim read this game and there are a number of things I want to get to tonight.

Firstly though, other Mason needs to claim. At the very least, if we end up lynching one of the mason claims and they flip scum, we have the other confirmed.

They should be locked into the claim. If we have an investigative in this game then Mason claims need to be considered - can essentially net two scum or two conf town for following phase.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I really want NM to post more, I want to work with him, Garmr and TChill to solve this game. I'm pretty confident in these reads, maybe put Performer in there as well.

FWIW, Ircher JK Garmr does nothing for my read - if Garmr is scum he would have been a good person to send for the kill as a universal townread. If he is town, he would also be a high protection target. JK means nothing.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Will be on tonight to post better posts but wanted to throw my thoughts in thread whilst I have 5 mins

[wavemode]

I don't understand.

If there's no Mason claim in lylo and performer is killed I'm the night phase scum can cc with absolutely nobody to argue other than the actual Mason.

No, you don't understand. Performer can leave a secret message in his posts TODAY saying who his partner is, and tell his partner about the message in their private thread, so that if he dies that person can use it as proof TOMORROW that they are a mason. In fact THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FROM DAY ONE as that is proper mason play. Am I misspeaking somewhere or are you being intentionally oblivious?

[Tchill13]

I'm saying that leaving the door open for scum to make a play doesn't make sense here from a town perspective.

Why not go ahead with a mass claim and make scum lock in claims?

I understand the thought process of what you're wanting.

I DO NOT understand how town benefits from that more than scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm also against a mass claim. No need for that, at least a day early on the premature claims.

Let's nip this Mason thing in the bud and move on from here by lynching Nos.

[Tchill13]

Do we agree to at least mass claim if there's a mylo?