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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:04 pm

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Geo you're OK with going into possible mylo with ari and NM at this point?

Explain your thoughts on them.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:13 pm

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In post 1644, Tchill13 wrote:Is there any world where Bbt is scum?
If performer is town, definitely

if performer is scum, probably not

that seems counterintuitive, but no one buddies scum
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:21 pm

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Also I'd like to point out that geo is essentially saying (since if I'm town he's OK with being lynched tomorrow) that he'd bet the game on the fact I have a more likely chance of flipping scum than ari or NM. Frankly that's just not true.

It would seem like he's sorting a PR from that angle and if this were the case I'd urge him to outright claim his information now.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:22 pm

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Softing not sorting
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:26 pm

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seems pretty plausible to me
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:26 pm

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him thinking ari and nm are more town than you that is
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:27 pm

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That I'm more likely to be scum than ari or NM?

Why. Because of previous slot play? You're willing to bet their alignments on days 1 and 2 regardless of their replace in play?

Whats the case I'm scum anyways?
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:31 pm

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lefty was a near universal town read and its easy to read ari as null

gustavo's outbursts could be interpreted as town frustration

im not saying i agree, just that i can understand
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:37 pm

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I don't think it's healthy for town to allow replace ins to coast on slots that could be incorrectly read. That's all I'm saying.

What have I done to be scum?

Bbt, teacher and performer can't be considered lock town yet but are good leans.

Garmr is practically lock town unless teacher is scum. I think they COULD both be scum together but it's unlikely.

If teacher is town wave is more than likely scum for how aggressive they've been with their teacher read.

Geo is more than likely scum given how he went about his push of me.

One of NM or ari is more than likely scum because they're literally coasting and will continue to do so because WE WILL APPARENTLY ALLOW IT.

Nos has always been a scum lean. We agreed Tommy's town flip pointed towards scum nos. I was ran up pretty quickly instead.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:38 pm

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Why was lefty universally TR'D? Activity?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:40 pm

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I have a pool of 5 players. One scum is probably in my town list.

I'm comfortable saying 2 scum are in a pool of 5 players.

If the mason can claim and help me narrow that down to 4 then I'm confident I can have a 50/50 shot of voting scum.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 1558, teacher wrote:1. just finished the Eng-Colombia game on delay. Wow.

2. I have some setup thoughts that I think may lock at least one scum.

3. Provided that we confirm masonry. I don’t think there’s a reason for the partner not to do this, despite the tea leaves as is.

Does anyone disagree with 3?
Trying this again since it may have been swallowed by the Fourth. I saw Wave weighed in against claiming, but I agree with what seems like the majority, in part due to the setup thoughts.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:23 am

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Been thinking a mass claim proposal some one said before. It might not be a bad idea and we can work off the information it may even confirm some slots as town that weren't.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:23 am

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I would even go first if I have to.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:29 am

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I guess we just let teacher and Bbt get caught up and go from there so we can have some dialouge about the situation.

Garmr/teacher/bbt is who I'm comfortable working with.

I can throw performer and whoever in that list once the other person claims.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:49 am

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tchill - I appreciate it, and I am caught up and happy to discuss.

But, tbh, I really want to finalize the 2d mason issue before intensive discussions, because some of my thoughts I dont want to give away as yet.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:55 am

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We can wait until then. If you're town (of course I lean that way) scum will have to deal with that argument you've laid out sooner than later. They can't flip you because it'll vindicate you. Which means they'll bash your argument without pushing you. Seems like wave started to do that.

Could be some scum motivation in holding back your thoughts so you don't end up hard pushing the 2nd Mason but I'm willing to look the other way atm.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:13 am

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Was fairly busy on July 4. Did some re ISO of teacher and nos, and - could I have been wrong of my tr of those 2?? That it's actually nos, teach, and geo instead? Maybe that's why I've been the only one scumreading bbt?...
Teacher's continued push on me, along with bbt's vote on Nos this phase, made me re ISO those 2 .
I found the below, telling about teacher:

"Scumleans ordered Lefty/NMaf (my favorite for scum off the wagon), Gus/Aristo, Tommy Egan, Performer."
I have gus slot as tr, tom flipped town, I'm Town Mason.

and in his ISO further push on his sr list. In his , he was even putting garm and I together as a team - garm who has returned to a tr for me.

Was rereading Wave's post too.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:15 am

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Nah, I probably wouldnt hardpush anybody in the current gamestate regardless, because Performer is still 50/50 at best for me, and sorting their slot determines a lot of my other reads.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:16 am

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This makes me think teach and gus are opposite alignments. And on the same vein, if garm/nos and geo/tom should be opposite alignments......

@teach dude you are voting me, you've had me sliding down since d1. And you sure seem certain on Gus slot too.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 1667, Performer wrote:In his 1166, he was even putting garm and I together as a team - garm who has returned to a tr for me.
Ummmmmm.....no?
In post 1166, teacher wrote:the one scum was likely in place early. . . .
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I scummed Performer and towned Garmr.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:18 am

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The fact performer claimed then asked that we lynch this very odd and alarming. No need to claim. I'm the one that's gonna get lynched. He obviously thought he'd live through the night phase to validate his other Mason so....

There's more than enough reason to be suspect of performer. WE NEED that other Mason claim.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:20 am

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@aris yes vonflare helped me with the avatar

@chill I'm familiar with Robbnva , he tunneled me in a game and he was scum . I need to look at that game and compare to his gameplay in this one.

@mod wasn't I voting geo ? I don't think I was voting wave as the recent vc said.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:21 am

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Chill I DON'T want you lynched. That's partly why I claimed. It's also mylo, and clearly everyone including me, have been misreading folks wrong.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:22 am

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In post 1673, Performer wrote:It's also mylo
FOR THE LOVE!!!!! Its not Mylo. No. Stop.

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