Open 730: Donner Party [Terminado]

[Eragon]

honestly I'm loving all the wagons right now

Im still iffy on ejji and I'm leaning town on them,
and N_M is meta idk about

the other three all have good choices

[Sando]

i played with him a long time ago and he was not like this

Oka how long ago was this? You took a break and have come back correct? So you played with him pre-break but not since coming back?

[OkaPoka]

i played with him a long time ago and he was not like this

Oka how long ago was this? You took a break and have come back correct? So you played with him pre-break but not since coming back?

3-4 years ago?

yes

yes

[Korina]

Ceejay and Unreal hath been prodded.

[UnrealSeal]

UNVOTE:

I had originally voted OkaPoka due to a theory that came about from his 304 (that being he was SK trying to point out Vig to the last mafia). I don't like the insistence on N_M but I don't think anti-town would push it this long and his continued play doesn't fit the original theory.'

With that said, I am at a loss for actual scum-reads so I'll vote the person who gives me the most bad vibes

VOTE: AP

[ceejayvinoya]

Earlier you said that you got town vibes from AP?

I'm sticking here for now.

VOTE: Unreal

[UnrealSeal]

I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.

my actual post.

his activity has not died down but he's still mostly theorizing around the setup and there's very little scum/town-hunting still in his posts. Furthermore, N_M is right in the fact that he hasn't laid a vote down so far in D2 and it makes me feel like he's playing safely and inoffensively as possible.

[OkaPoka]

UNVOTE:

I had originally voted OkaPoka due to a theory that came about from his 304 (that being he was SK trying to point out Vig to the last mafia). I don't like the insistence on N_M but I don't think anti-town would push it this long and his continued play doesn't fit the original theory.'

With that said, I am at a loss for actual scum-reads so I'll vote the person who gives me the most bad vibes

VOTE: AP

does not_mafia not give you bad vibes

[OkaPoka]

N_M didn't post enough for me to read him. Why do you believe he's town for some unexplained votes?

It's N_M's meta. He plays in a way that makes him very easy to sort.

tell me how you sort n_m from scum/town based on what he has posted

[ceejayvinoya]

I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.

my actual post.

his activity has not died down but he's still mostly theorizing around the setup and there's very little scum/town-hunting still in his posts. Furthermore, N_M is right in the fact that he hasn't laid a vote down so far in D2 and it makes me feel like he's playing safely and inoffensively as possible.

I don't understand why you labelled his consistency in setup-theorizing as a scumtell. Do those theories of his help him if he's scum?

[AP]

VOTE: Unreal

I've had it with you. I already said I suspect you AND Oka, and I've been lenient with you for that precise reason: You voting Oka.

It now appears that you've lost your cool/patience and going after the person who seems to have the loudest voice is

strategizing

the PRs. Bad move, if for nothing else then for not having waited for the night to fall for you to kill me. I already volunteered to be killed tonight, Einstein. You would have confused the hell out of Town if you ate me, since they would have assumed the Vig did on my recommendation. But -of course- I understand you need to hunt for the PRs so you want to get rid of me via the lynch.

[AP]

@Unreal: You now need to lay down your case in the tiniest of details. "Bad vibes" won't do. GO!

[OkaPoka]

Do you guys really think unreal is scum?

[AP]

Do you guys really think unreal is scum?

I sure do

[OkaPoka]

Do you think scum unreal would leave my wagon which has the potential of gaining steam with lucky hopping in and create a new wagon on someone with no votes and seemingly townread by many?

[AP]

It's not that simple. Y'see, I am taking a stance here.. being vocal.. so he needs to shut me up. He could do so by killing me, but I have also claimed a VT, so that would be him missing on the chance to PR hunt. Scum him is cornered and has no other choice but to push for the lynch of a VT and kill whom he thinks might be a PR. After all, PRs are virtually unlynchable because once they claim they won't eat rope without a CC.

So, yes, he would leave your wagon and try to start one on me if he knows what he's doing.

[AP]

@Poka: Let's imagine a hypothetical world were you are a PR yourself, and Unreal got the feeling you are one. Pushing you any further will get you to claim. That would be bad for him because that's one more mislynch he can't achieve. If this was later into the game he may have considered a CC himself and take his chances. A CC now though is not an option because after you flip he will still be lynched.

So, lynch a VT, NK Poka, then claim he has Poka's role when you can't actually CC (because you're in his belly already).

[OkaPoka]

So your case against him relies on him thinking I am a PR?

[UnrealSeal]

I voted you because I thought that your posts were being overly safe and inoffensive. You hadn't laid a vote down till now and when N_M asked you about that, you threw shade at him.

I'm continuing to vote you now because your reaction to my vote is incredibly overblown and out of character, and your case against me is so much WIFOM.

[Eragon]

I’m just waiting for a vote count

[Korina]

Coming

[Korina]

Votecount 2.3

UnrealSeal(3)

~ ejjinami(11), ceejayvinoya(5), AP(30)

Sando(2)

~ ManateeDude(20), Not_Mafia(2)

OkaPoka(1)

~ LuckyOtter(10)

Not_Mafia(1)

~ OkaPoka(37)

ejjinami(1)

~ Sando(16)

AP(1)

~ UnrealSeal(5)


Not Voting (1): Eragon(44)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-07-17 00:13:00)

[Sando]

I voted you because I thought that your posts were being overly safe and inoffensive. You hadn't laid a vote down till now and when N_M asked you about that, you threw shade at him.

I don't understand how you can accuse AP of that right now, emphasis on the "you":

I have no real scum-reads at the moment

(I previously had one on Lucky, but his vote was on MM and I don't think he was bussing in this instance.) and while I do have some theories, most of them are stretches at the moment.

I'll park on VOTE: OkaPoka for now

(bolding mine)
then a single "yes" post before:

With that said, I am at a loss for actual scum-reads so I'll vote the person who gives me the most bad vibes

VOTE: AP

I believe your Oka vote was the first on him, but if not it was second. In what world is "I have no scumreads so here's a vote on someone no-one else is wagoning" NOT playing it safe?

[OkaPoka]

was the last question directed at me

[Sando]

Nope, Unreal, but it was rhetorical, so feel free to answer