Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Awoo]

yes, sadly I am...

[Awoo]

You know how sometimes you're mafia and you're like "man i wish I wasn't here right now my team is getting destroyed" i din't know town could feel that way

[Toranaga]

Sajj considering only 1 lurker joined nsg's wagon and dino who is pretty confident on his townread hasn't this seems like an overreaction.

Math is Math, even if he had doubt he wouldn't openly share them if he isn't sure enough. NSG is better at the game so obviously it is worth to lynch me instead of her.

This is a dead game, posting any content believable enough gives you twoncred. My wagon as of right now is two lurkers, NSG and Math and Awoo.
She ignored every in game factor that should possibly give her a pause, nobody was, at least openly, scumreading me before she's made the case. Only effort she put in was making her case look good. Things from the thread were cases of me not playing to her perception of my town play. Quote from other game was misrepped and taken out of context to suit the case.
If she is town then i think it had nothing to do with game solving but a lot with some gut feeling she had about me that needed justification. I don't think she should be trusted with her reads if she keeps playing like that.

All that said you will have to make a decision tomorrow. I don't think there is anything else to be said this day phase. Hammer me whenever you are ready.
VOTE: Scioness

I have never seen this genuine type of self voting coming from scum. scioness isn't fighting her lynch by appealing to emotion or anything. she is just done trying to defend herself, and is posting in a way that almost feels like twilight posting from her POV. the feelings here are what I expect from a villager being death tunneled the way she was.

I get the demotivation and helplessness if she is town. I also wouldn't condemn all self-votes. But doing it here at this time amd putting herself at L-1 is close to game throwing. Believe me I did it in a 3p lylo in my newbie game because I felt frustrated and tried a hail mary gambit. I have since learned my lesson. You don't self-vote when it more or less guarantees your lynch.

This is pretty much the same as hammering yourself as a townie. Because if town she can't possibly know that scum wouldn't login before she returns and hammer her. And sure a hammer would look shady but townies get trigger happy too when deadline is near.

I mean you literally threw your game, then. this isn't comparable. I think the barrage of accusations scioness had to endure could break anyone. having someone literally metadive you d1 and post all the stuff you did differently in the other game, and have tl;dr after tl;dr case being thrown in your direction, when half the thread is lurking and you're one of the ones trying, is pretty disheartening. I'm fine with the way scioness behaved here. she did not appeal to emotion or threw the game, she just happened to be in a certain emotional state.

[Toranaga]

I get the demotivation and helplessness if she is town. I also wouldn't condemn all self-votes. But doing it here at this time amd putting herself at L-1 is close to game throwing. Believe me I did it in a 3p lylo in my newbie game because I felt frustrated and tried a hail mary gambit. I have since learned my lesson. You don't self-vote when it more or less guarantees your lynch.

dude, how can you be so unaware of your surroundings
how is putting myself at l-1 on D1 two days before deadline game throwing? I have provided more than enough content for you all to talk about when I flip town.
what do you expect me to do? push me for some last minute lynch that i don't bellieve to save myself? i like to think i'm more game aware than that.

This is pretty much the same as hammering yourself as a townie. Because if town she can't possibly know that scum wouldn't login before she returns and hammer her. And sure a hammer would look shady but townies get trigger happy too when deadline is near.

What planet are you on? Do you think you can solve me v NSG without a lynch? Good luck with that because IF both of us are town then we are not dying any time soon. How do you imagine next day phase will look like? Half of the players awol and nsg still on me (i doubt she will back off of this since she didn't do it already).
Yesterday is a content, maybe not the best content but still. People have and will be forced into making stances. D2, after my flip they will also have to make a decision how to handle NSG. That's plenty of material to work on going forward.
Not confirming me today is a waste of a day phase.

I'm ready to lose the game to scioness if she is scum.

[Toranaga]

So, I've managed to catch up with the game after being away for a bit.

NSG's case on Sajj seems to be entirely focused around meta, but the latest posts after her self-vote are almost entirely Appeal to Emotion. Furthermore, she was previously posting 1-2 line posts that were disengaged and often didn't say much. Now she's burying people with walls of meta, which indicates cornered scum to me.

For all these facts, I declare intent to hammer.

that's a horrible post.

[Toranaga]

we need to lynch awoo.

[wavemode]

yes, sadly I am...

yeah you play like Transcend when he's town...

[Awoo]

only when I have lost all motivation to play

[Toranaga]

Can you explain this one please sorry I missed it.

Fact: Mathdino is town reading Uglyduck.
Fact: Mathdino has accurate town reads.

Regardless of what Uglyduck flip, I don't think this would tell us anything about Math.
However, a Math town flip probably means Uglyduck is town.

So I'd be more comfortable lynching Math first before Uglyduck. That said, it's too early to lynch Math.

I don't believe this bs theory that Math is scum with Uglyduck due to how obvious the white knighting is. I don't think scum!Math would do that.

horrible post too

oh well. I've read +1k posts and I think my POE now looks like

mutantdevle, duck, mylo, awoo and, honestly, unreal seal again.

I'm fine with lavos as town for his posts after subbing in.

ok that's enough for me.

[Toranaga]

only when I have lost all motivation to play

do me a favour and flip red awoo

I'm trusting you can do taht

[UglyDuck]

VOTE: Awoo

[UglyDuck]

eh regretted that immediately.

I want to vote awoo - and will - but quickhammer is too potential.

UNVOTE: unvote

I need to read up. 4th of July week has had me behind.

[BuJaber]

VOTE: uglyduck

[Toranaga]

eh regretted that immediately.

I want to vote awoo - and will - but quickhammer is too potential.

UNVOTE: unvote

I need to read up. 4th of July week has had me behind.

you're a wolf.

also it's 2 days from end of day. we need to hammer.

[Lavos]

Somebody vote Awoo and I will hammer for great justice

I'll vote Awoo later if he doesn't get L-1'd before then but I like hammering

[Lavos]

I'm not really paying attention to anyone's posting.

Because I "the equivalent of" scum read people. I would not be able to explain any of those reads though.

I was so lazy with that vote tag that I quoted and edited Almost50's post to do it.

^ these were the three times

I think you have a very loose definition of mentioning I'm not paying attention. Saying, I am not able to explain reads comes under that only at a push and stating I was lazy with a vote tag is hardly a notion of not paying attention. If anything, it states how I am not putting effort in. (though, ironically, I put more effort into typing that second sentence than I would have done if I typed the vote myself).

It's less about the exact definitions and more about what you're saying in general. All three basically try to convey the message that you're very unengaged with the game in an awkward way.

[Lavos]

VOTE: Mutant

Why the fuck are you voting for me? I would not expect this from you Mylo.

Also this reads as fake. Why don't you expect Mylo to vote for you? Unless I missed a game where Mylo had like an accurate metaread on you or something this is

[Lavos]

sigh

VOTE: almost50

why do you scumread a50?

[Lavos]

actually I don't think I want to sit here waiting for L-1.

VOTE: Awoo

[Awoo]

*teleports behind you*
pssh... kill uglyduck tomorrow... kid
*flips green*
VOTE: awoo
"but for me... it was tuesday..."

[wavemode]

awoo

[Toranaga]

I fucking hope you're scum awoo

I'll be fucking mad if you're not scum

[wavemode]

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[wavemode]

scumteam is Lavos/UglyDuck btw

[Toranaga]

scumteam is Lavos/UglyDuck btw

you think awoo is town? :/