Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Toranaga]

uglyduck should die tomorrow regardless imo

[wavemode]

gonna sheep math on uglyduck, presumably they have meta experience if he's calling UD 100% town so

Jumps on seal wagon, moves to uglyduck really quick, and then totally casts aside unrealseal as a wagon despite US being his #1 scumread earlier apparently. Like I can understand town jumping on the UD wagon if they want info from it or whatever, that's ok, but what I don't understand is how he's suddenly making this dichotomy between mutant or uglyduck when neither of them were in his top 3 scumreads earlier. to me this seems like they are partners and this is an abandoned bus,

On my phone rn but lavos's rhetoric around duck and flip-flopping of opinion is a scumclaim, frankly, if duck flips scum

[wavemode]

scumteam is Lavos/UglyDuck btw

you think awoo is town? :/

Yes I've been townreading awoo for a while. I don't see the scum motivation in how he's approached this game

[Toranaga]

oh well

hope you're wrong

[Awoo]

sry i know its bad play to selfhammer as town but oops

[wavemode]

A FUCKING WOO

you're at L-1

[Toranaga]

UNVOTE: awoo

but pretty sure he was hammered

[Toranaga]

tho idk

awoo is only not scum if he was hammered

if he is not hammered he might know this and this is therefore theatre

it's the lynch either way

[Toranaga]

no that was L-1 yeah

ok

you're still the lynch awoo

[Toranaga]

VOTE: awoo

nice try

pretty confident you're scum now

[Awoo]

what the fuck? I just fake selfhammered myself?

*blinks* well in case Im still getting mindfucked UNVOTE:
VOTE: uglyduck

[Awoo]

I already removed this game from my bookmarks and everything wtf is going on

[Awoo]

I bet thats a fake hammer too, you were probably already voting me.

[Awoo]

OK SO LETS KILL UGLYDUCK TODAY BECAUSE

1. he is my partner according to someone (if he flips red i'd gladly die next for that sweet 1-1 trade)
2. hes scummy and stuff

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OK REAL CONTENT IM PROMISING YOU GUYS:

A lot of people have gone from null / lurksack / ???? into kind of towny or at least getting townread and I also townread them too. Like for some examples:

wavemode faded out and made me nervous ie. sitting back as town cannabilizes itself by lynching its only anime girl, but his reactions to recent events are towny
mylo is as far as I can tell doing what he does as town
AA9 was ESL memeslot but I like tornaga.
I also like WCG's replacement when I iso'd him. I still dont know for certain if Im dead or not so Im not going to iso again in case mod locks.
Seal is weird and I read weirdness as towny. His play seemed kind of counterintuitive for mafia ie. pushing mathdino drawing attention to himself doesn't really make sense. But suddenly everyone saying I was his partner so I supported his lynch to test that theory.



That's a lot of null that started leaning town. And uglyduck is notably missing from that list. Mutant as well. So either that's the exact scumteam (lmao) or I/we are giving out townreads too easily. So its like my whole readslist is shifted slightly to the towny side making duck look that much worse, but also stressing me out since I think there is scum in this clump of null but light town block.

"Light town is the new null" is what im trying to say. So im going back and forth wagon to wagon hoping to get a stronger read then "light town" on someone. And I got that on tornaga so far.

[Awoo]

I think we have 3 votes on duck? Thats a good number, lets kill it. He's only got his partner to fight a fast wagon if he's mafia and thats 1 person.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: uglyduck

fuck mafiascum tbh

[Toranaga]

awoo feels pure and I'm hating myself for reading him that way

[Toranaga]

I have the feeling if we don't hit scum today, scum will take over the thread and run the narrative to get a bunch of town lynched and win, because there are too many low hanging fruit for town to recover

unless you guys start playing.

[UnrealSeal]

VOTE: Uglyduck

[Toranaga]

I bet thats a fake hammer too, you were probably already voting me.

I have unvoted you and then revoted you when noticed you were actually L-1ed anyway.

also I noticed an interesting contradiction with regards to your posting and who you're pushing...

Shit, I died. I guess being scum partners with 3 different people doesn't help my case any :S but I really don't know what you guys are going to get out of the upcoming town flip.
Like ok, scummy guy flipped town. Then what? I really want to lynch my "partners" right now instead of me.

I'll leave you with this. Special thanks to tornaga for adding some ambiguity to who dies tonight.


{tornaga, bujab}
{a50, scion, lavos}
{mylo}
--- power gap ----
{duck, wave} <-- the "seems town but idk how to feel about them but others say town" pile.
{scion}

(mutant, seal, myself )

here, duck "seems town" but you don't know how to feel about it. that quickly becomes:

*teleports behind you*
pssh... kill uglyduck tomorrow... kid
*flips green*
VOTE: awoo
"but for me... it was tuesday..."

now you suddenly want uglyduck killed the next gameday once you "flip green". .

I think we have 3 votes on duck? Thats a good number, lets kill it. He's only got his partner to fight a fast wagon if he's mafia and thats 1 person.

where is your mutant wolfread? where is your seal wolfread? how did uglyduck suddenly became the wagon of your choice? was it because people were willing to push there?

[Toranaga]

"seal is weird and I read weirdness as towny" right after you put yourself with him as scumreads, as well

there are so many open contradictions that are too weird to come from town

oh well

what do I do with you awoo.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: awoo

I shouldn't play here. how the fuck do I solve this game?

[Toranaga]

I either don't give a fuck or I look like a goddamn maniac every game here

fucking hell

[Awoo]

Sorry but if you want to get a good read on me you can't look at my posts.

LOOOOL

What I meant is that remember that one thing with math says duck is town because of PT behavior but still its kinda dubious because duck is really scummy? And hell yeah Im going to vote someone with votes on them right next to the deadline

Im a walking contradiction, my reads are in a quantum state. I personally think that's the opposite of my mafia play taken to an unreasonable extreme ('cause in my mafia play I get stuck thinking ok, mislynch these people in this order -> win game and it really shows)

[Toranaga]

the thing is

I'm tonereading you town

but everything you say is ???????, like every post contradicts some other posts

some reads seem to come from nowhere

I understand what you're saying, like your wolf game might be too formulaic for you to play like this

but IDK. it feels... you know, if you're scum I'm gonna feel like the biggest moron that ever walked the earth.

but ok. I'm believing your self meta cause I actually did meta dive you and you actually are pretty formulaic and correct posting as a wolf in the games I saw.

VOTE: uglyduck...