SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Commander Shepard]

I am just going with facts.

1 or 2 people shot me.

I somehow lived.

I am trying to figure out how.

[Commander Shepard]

I am thinking Vax+Shoshin+MariaR and I was fear shot as I am a tunneler.

Invests would be on fire to see who killed/who fire checked and so fire would be too risky a kill for pun.

I mean if scum are entirely dominating this game killing me is kinda a smart move for them as no one ever suspects killing me.

[Commander Shepard]

Plus scum vig is an excellent counter to all this PR floating about. I mean I was joking about the nuke but the shoe fits.

[Vaxkiller]

Who docs you tho? This is just too unbelievable.

I hesitate because your claim is so well crafted, and I don't know you well enough to know if your capable of dreaming up such a role. Also I think espeonage is scum with this post:

[Vaxkiller]

I dunno. Doc or some shit. Idk why they'd protect you, but w/e.

I'm kinda musing though, and this can be backburner considering no flipped scums, but possibility of an SK?

[Vaxkiller]

Like, these night actions are so boring and mean nothing, does not even care to try and explain anything.

It reads to me like esp KNOWS more, but can't say.

[Espeonage]

You’re asking me to believe that town has two cops two vigs and two protectives?

What would scum have a nuke?

And I was fucking trying to die. *sigh*

Was trying to rectify this bc its a good point.

[ManWithNoName]

Maybe Shep is the SK he said pun was, aren't they immune to death the first night they are shot?

[Commander Shepard]

Maybe Shep is the SK he said pun was, aren't they immune to death the first night they are shot?

Yes and pun mysteriously claims vig on day one how?

(Sarcasm this is just so blatantly bad)

[Commander Shepard]

Mobile posting, so I can't provide full details now, but:

I am Cheetory6, and I have a Conditional Bulletproof.
The main condition is me being the most popular player.

This isn't quite as broken as it sounds because there IS a second condition, but for obvious reasons, that condition is best left unclaimed so that the pun don't know when I can/cannot be shot.

Keeping in mind punreader claims BP on post 7 then claims vig.

[Commander Shepard]

Punreader (10)
Chara (10)
Taly (10)
Dunnstral (9)
ActionDan/Nahdia (8)
Shoshin (7)
MariaR (6)
Espeonage (6)
the worst (5)
Fire Assassin (5)
DeasVail (4)
Vaxkiller (4)
NicoRobin (3)
ReubenWasFine/Lovebird (2)
Srceenplay (1)
TehBrawlGuy (0)
PenguinPower (0)
Pine/TwoInAMillion (0)

I shot Pine.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SHOOT PINE. Also why is your post formatted like that? HOW did you shoot pine? You claiming vig?

actually solid I didn't read your list before

why hard TR pine and scumread like Taly and Maria?

Because Pine was town? I don't know how you didn't see it, maybe you weren't interacting with him? Maybe that's why I didn't see anything from MariaR, I didnt interact with them. Taly scares me, im getting scum vibes again. MariaR was just leftover when I put the list together, I didnt want to bump anyone down

@Vaxkiller Assuming your claim is true which I doubt explain after Punreader claimed vig and proved it why you didn’t shoot Punreader?

@Vaxkiller ???

[ManWithNoName]

So, you have pun AND Vax as scum?

All vig claims are mafia or SK right now?

[Vaxkiller]

lol

[Commander Shepard]

So, you have pun AND Vax as scum?

All vig claims are mafia or SK right now?

I am thinking that. Or just punreader is town and lying about BP to not be shot. So they could kill things.

I have seen a game with one day vig and it was scum.

What reason do you have to believe a vig is alignment indicative and what reason do you have that Vax held their shot til now?

[Commander Shepard]

And what proof do we have that Vaxkiller actually shot me? Because I refuse to believe I was protected twice.

[Vaxkiller]

@Commander

Why? After calming down and reading the situation his actions made sense. Claiming a fake BP makes sense as town. So I thinks Puns town now.

Also his vig was very conditional. Mine less so. I'm a novice vig.

[Vaxkiller]

What reason do you have to believe a vig is alignment indicative and what reason do you have that Vax held their shot til now?

I believe he was asking why YOU think that, not that he thinks that.

[ManWithNoName]

I don't have any proof of anything, but this is mafia, we rely on deductive reasoning. I don't have to prove anything to think that Vax is town.

I'm just trying to clarify what you are thinking because I am still lost with your train of thought. So, either vax is mafia, and pun is SK, or Vax is mafia, pun is vig and pun lied about being conditional bulletproof because no one on the scum team would ever be ranked above him and he knew this on Day 1?

[Vaxkiller]

And what proof do we have that Vaxkiller actually shot me? Because I refuse to believe I was protected twice.

Hmm quick look at the wiki shows normal docs protect 1 kill action, but sometimes mods use protect from all night actions.

[Vaxkiller]

Is it even possible to have an SK? I need to look back.

[Commander Shepard]

@Commander

Why? After calming down and reading the situation his actions made sense. Claiming a fake BP makes sense as town. So I thinks Puns town now.

Also his vig was very conditional. Mine less so. I'm a novice vig.

So you are legitimately thinking town has two cops two vigs two protectives?

And even if you are thinking one, what protective heals me?

And why the hell wouldn’t you have shot punreader?

Answer: You’re a scum vig trying to shoot me for creds or lying to murky things up.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Commander Shepard

There's good reason for this vote

Whats the reason again?

[ManWithNoName]

Scum has a vig now? Is that even allowed?

This exchange is getting intense AND confusing.

[Commander Shepard]

I don't have any proof of anything, but this is mafia, we rely on deductive reasoning. I don't have to prove anything to think that Vax is town.

I'm just trying to clarify what you are thinking because I am still lost with your train of thought. So, either vax is mafia, and pun is SK, or Vax is mafia, pun is vig and pun lied about being conditional bulletproof because no one on the scum team would ever be ranked above him and he knew this on Day 1?

Pun is she or they I think.

Pun lied about conditional BP. That pun would just be regular able to be shot regardless of rankings. They didn’t lie because of who scum were because they wouldn’t know for starters but a vig’s usefulness is only as good as their longevity.

[Vaxkiller]

I am a fucking weird PGO esque (not official role name). If I get shot by scum they die but shot by town:SK I die. Was trying to die so Shoshin gets lynched because Shoshin is obvScum.

Does your role specifically state SK?