Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[Aristophanes]

i was also being rhetorical

Oh.

I'm just an idiot then?

Did tou claim I'd done something at night? I looked back and saw only softs.

[Nosferatu]

any vote outside of me and aristo is a scum claim btw

there's no room in this setup for any scum role that tampers with my results here

pedit: no, i did claim a guilty on you, i just knew what you would say

[Aristophanes]

Well this is fucking easy then! XD
VOTE: Nos

I have been weak in play this game because I have given it little time or effort. I am a VT and I wemt nowhere. I don't doubt the roleclaim from Nos is legit but the results are currently impossible.

EzPz

[wavemode]

I don't doubt the roleclaim from Nos is legit

I don't understand. You believe Nos is indeed a tracker? Based on what?

[Aristophanes]

I don't doubt the roleclaim from Nos is legit

I don't understand. You believe Nos is indeed a tracker? Based on what?

Because it's easiest to claim something legit. they probably did track someone at some point. I just know the track on myself is 100% poppycock!

[wavemode]

...okay...

[Aristophanes]

I'm just bad at fakeclaims so I always base them in fact. I assume others do but there's no real reason for that assumption.

[Aristophanes]

This is secondary tho. I can go through and make a town!me scum!Nos argument post if you guys like.

Not tn tho

[wavemode]

Nosferatu - X-Shot Tracker

Garmr - VT

Performer - Mason

Aristophanes - VT

wavemode - VT

Not_Mafia - Mason

BlueBloodedToffee - VT
teacher - VT

Invisibility - Ascetic

Tommy Egan - VT

Ircher - Jailkeeper

Tchill13 - VT

GEO - Odd-Night Cop

[Aristophanes]

@Wave

Also it's bad form to colour oneself as town in VCA, just fyi. Unless you're mod confirmed or something, which we are not.

Also if Garmr is VT claimed they should not be coloured either.

Masons maybe tho even then its meh. Scum can claim masons you know.

[wavemode]

lmao you're talking about my coloring as though it's mechanical

it's based on common sense

[wavemode]

you're the last person i'd expect to be arguing that the masons are scum. you're essentially arguing that the town only has Odd-night cop and JK

[Aristophanes]

lmao you're talking about my coloring as though it's mechanical

it's based on common sense

It's based on reads and unconfirmed info. My point stands that one is not to be coloured an alignment until they are confirmed to be that alignment!

you're the last person i'd expect to be arguing that the masons are scum. you're essentially arguing that the town only has Odd-night cop and JK

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd. It also gives bery little for the watcher to watch making that role a little weird.

[wavemode]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

[Aristophanes]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

If scum ~only~ have a tracker they are really underpowered, so it's not horribly unbalanced. Ascetic with no other role is underpowered. Odd night cop is mid-low power, and JK is the only protective and one which can lead to wine at that!

It's not horribly unbalanced, no.

However, I am not currently arguing the Masons are scum. I am mentioning the possibility that one is so long as neither has flipped. No flipped mason means no confirmed masons. Simple as that.

If the masons are legit scum have more hidden power we don't know about. I can guarantee that.

[wavemode]

Nos, who do you believe is the scumteam

[wavemode]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

If scum ~only~ have a tracker they are really underpowered, so it's not horribly unbalanced. Ascetic with no other role is underpowered. Odd night cop is mid-low power, and JK is the only protective and one which can lead to wine at that!

It's not horribly unbalanced, no.

However, I am not currently arguing the Masons are scum. I am mentioning the possibility that one is so long as neither has flipped. No flipped mason means no confirmed masons. Simple as that.

If the masons are legit scum have more hidden power we don't know about. I can guarantee that.

Scum Tracker is really strong btw

but I'm finished with this discussion in any case

[Aristophanes]

Not if there's virtually nothing to track!

But NP this isn't really productive I guess.

[Nosferatu]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

im so confused by what you just said here

Nos, who do you believe is the scumteam

it would pretty necessarily be some combination of {aristo, garmr, bbt/teacher}

[Garmr]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

im so confused by what you just said here

Nos, who do you believe is the scumteam

it would pretty necessarily be some combination of {aristo,

garmr,

bbt/teacher}

I'm town but

VOTE: nos

I was juggling between You and BBT and was hesitant to place a vote on either slot. But that help make up my mind.

If you're town and scum quick lynch, you have to next time read me properly and hopefully change your meta so it more informative for the next time because you really contributed nothing this game which was detrimental to town.

If you are scum then learn to you should of left things how they were and left me with the unease. Also You should of been lynched day 2 and it was my fault for tchill lynch over you day 3.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Nos

[Garmr]

4 votes on nos one more.

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 4.02

Nosferatu

(3): Aristophanes, Garmr, BlueBloodedToffee

Aristophanes

(1): Nosferatu

No Lynch

(1): teacher

Not Voting

(3): wavemode, Performer, Not_Mafia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-07-21 17:00:00)

Mod Notes:

• Performer V/LA on weekends
• teacher V/LA on weekends

[wavemode]

I'm willing to put my foot down on bbt being town. I'd say it's necessarily a nos/Ari/teacher team

VOTE: Nos

[Aristophanes]

Dammit PP I was hoping there would be a misguided quickhammer attempt so we could read into the motives. You ruin everything

I'm willing to put my foot down on bbt being town. I'd say it's necessarily a nos/Ari/teacher team

VOTE: Nos

I'm curious how I would be on a scumteam with Nos after this. Enlighten me?