In post 2118, DeasVail wrote:I'm going to post my incredibly simplistic thoughts on players, because despite all the "information" we do have, when it comes down to it, I don't actually have that much to say.
Punreader: Very unlikely to be group scum. Even if they are some kind of third party, at this stage it's most likely in their best interests to help the town so their death is not worth pursuing any time soon. I often don't really gel with the arguments they make, but that's probably not alignment-relevant in this case.
<< Agreed
MariaR: Overall I'm kind of underwhelmed by her play in the game. But I've been very underwhelming as well and so it's really a matter of working out whether this is town-apathy because of the mess that this game has been or if it's just scum coasting while town continues to be a mess. Is there any way to tell the difference between these two things??? I don't know! The inno on Vaxkiller is interesting and is a positive in my mind, but I can't rule it as unquestionably town.
<< Agreed
Espeonage: If Fire Assassin's role is taken as valid, then Espe is town. I also don't think that Fire and Espe are scum together because Fire almost got Espe lynched.
<< Agreed
Dunnstral: From play I strongly think that Dunn is town. There is also Fire's result (but Fire's alignment is a question mark to me right now)
<< I wouldn’t use strongly for Dunn (that’d be Chara) but their play does seem town.
Shepard: Very unsure what to think here. If I had to pick an alignment, it would be scum, but there are things that make me unsure. The FoSing of me without actually seeming to think that I'm scum seems to go against what scum would want to do. If they wanted to get me lynched, then just get me lynched. If they want to "townread" me, then I would expect some amount of buddying here. But maybe my problem here is that I'm making expected scumplay too simplistic. Maybe Shepard is just scum.
<< I am told that I have galaxy or moon logic. I also keep FoS’s in play when something really pings me the wrong way to go back and reevaluate it later. It pinged me pure and simple it doesn’t rise to Shoshin or Vax level pings but it is there.
The worst: TBG's post at the end of Day 2 did resonate with me as I had been thinking similar things. I find the worst's play to be generally town but with nothing that actually strongly points away from scum, and at this stage of the game, that requires a re-look at the worst's alignment. He also seems to really fit with what I'd expect from coasting scum, but Taly did strongly think he was town and they did have some kind of role interaction, which gives me pause.
<< I think this is odd you bring it up and don’t explore it. This paragraph reads all kinds of ewwwww.
Shoshin: Despite her being a common scumread, I actually like her play. I know I don't have any strong reason for thinking this, but I feel uncomfortable about the idea of lynching her. Maybe this is a bad thing! Maybe I'm just being bad! I don't know.
<< Ewwwww bad. No. Scum’s job is to make you uncomfortable lynching them. If you scumread someone you lynch them. Fuck feelings.
Fire Assassin: I don't even know. I really thought that the cop guilty fiasco was indicative of town but today's play from Fire has just not been what I would expect from town.
<< Agreed. But Punreader has a point.
Chara: Probably town despite my reservations.
<<Chara is like obvTow
ManWithNoName: My feelings on him are just super mediocre. If I needed to fill a scumteam theory, then I would probably put his name in because it wouldn't make me feel uncomfortable, but that would be lazy and maybe I just need to see more.
<< If I am wrong somewhere I could see ManwithNoName being scum
Vaxkiller: I struggle to see his play coming from scum so my inclination is then town regardless of Maria's alignment.
<< I struggle to see where his play is coming from as town and two vigs is really hard to swallow. The claim seems bullshit, and will continue to seem bullshit until either a moderator confirms I am right or Vax is true claiming.
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I am completely aware that most of the above is vague and unspecific and not at all helpful, but that's where my thoughts are at right now.
I probably would just lynch Shepard, but I am really worried considering how this game has gone so far.
