Open 729 - Cul de Sac!

[Almost50]

In no world can UD come up with 1493 as scum.

Vite Scioness, and if this flips green you have me to blame.

[wavemode]

I wrote better walls than that in my first newbie game as scum lmao

And unlike UD I actually made good points

[Almost50]

I wrote better walls than that in my first newbie game as scum lmao

And unlike UD I actually made good points

You're not UD though.

I mean, if >I< just posted that it'd be NAI for me. If it was NSG though that'd be definitely town her. It's all about play style and meta. Some player are even better at being scum than playing town. Some are strong as town and mediocre as scum... you get the picture.

[wavemode]

UD is not bad at playing scum though

I'm literally flipping back through his past games as we speak, as I have been doing since early day 1, and he makes exactly these same kinds of walls and arguments that are meant to sound logical

You tell a player like this he's the next lynch and give him 48 hours to come up with something and, well here you have it. A drawn-out speech that essentially

A. ignores that the Math/Almost50 slot has literally been his main protection this whole game
B. brushes off the fact that there is now one fewer person to vote duck today, Bujaber. If scum!someone wanted town!uglyduck to die today they would clearly leave bujaber alive

And as for A and B, it's nonsense that we're having to listen to and debate these completely WIFOM arguments in the first place! He's making them mainly because he has literally no footing to claim he has been useful to the town this game. he's done almost nothing each and every day phase. (In fact, he's been in the game since the very beginning, yet even compared to people who replaced in he has fewer posts than everybody currently alive)

C. moves me down from where he previously townread me to now null, for no discernible reason
D. attacks toranaga mainly on the basis that he replaced into the Mathdino slot (even though he didn't) and that his reads just follow consensus (even though they don't)

[Toranaga]

game still dead I see

I'm gonna roll with wavemode's last post being the most accurate way to read uglyduck. I don't trust A50's ability to tone read players and wave was very accurate in townreading awoo.

so let's end the gameday? I'm voting UD. if he is town we're screwed anyway cause he is nearly always a lynch.

[Toranaga]

vote: uglyduck

this is L-1 since A50 voted someone else.

[UglyDuck]

UD is not bad at playing scum though

I'm literally flipping back through his past games as we speak, as I have been doing since early day 1, and he makes exactly these same kinds of walls and arguments that are meant to sound logical

You tell a player like this he's the next lynch and give him 48 hours to come up with something and, well here you have it. A drawn-out speech that essentially

A. ignores that the Math/Almost50 slot has literally been his main protection this whole game
B. brushes off the fact that there is now one fewer person to vote duck today, Bujaber. If scum!someone wanted town!uglyduck to die today they would clearly leave bujaber alive

And as for A and B, it's nonsense that we're having to listen to and debate these completely WIFOM arguments in the first place! He's making them mainly because he has literally no footing to claim he has been useful to the town this game. he's done almost nothing each and every day phase. (In fact, he's been in the game since the very beginning, yet even compared to people who replaced in he has fewer posts than everybody currently alive)

C. moves me down from where he previously townread me to now null, for no discernible reason
D. attacks toranaga mainly on the basis that he replaced into the Mathdino slot (even though he didn't) and that his reads just follow consensus (even though they don't)

A. First off, false. I acknowledged Math (several times). And as it was pointed out several times, I obv mixed up the subs.

B. Also false. I acknowledged completely that with BuJaber dead there is one less person to vote me. That was my entire point about the NK. It would be one thing if like "a person or two thought I was skummy". With the essential entirety of the lot thinking I am Skum... it would make no sense for me to kill BuJaber as skum. It just makes me look more suspicious. It is not like *his one vote* would make or break my lynch. If it is gonna happen it is gonna happen. The counter point to make is that as with BJ dead (while there is one less person to vote me), we are down two more players, so it also takes one less person to lynch me. That would be pretty much the only argument for Skum!UD killing BJ, and even still given the game state I don't see it as a top option at all. (there is also like the whole wall about why the other kills make more sense. you should really read that post lol).

---middle fact: It is only WIFOM because you see it that way. From my perspective it is POV. I do not know you lot or your metas, and the early games on this forum are just literally riddled with only that. So I stay quiet. When I post early games, I summarize where I am at so if I die it can be viewed later. I do that every game, you can check. ---

C. I moved you to null because I find your recent play less towny then it previously was.

D. Of course my reads didn't follow logic as I had the damn subs mixed up.

UNVOTE:

for a moment at least I need to read those 2 slots again under correct terms.

[Toranaga]

UNVOTE: uglyduck

you fucking people need to be near lynched to post anything towny

[Toranaga]

playing on mafiascum is so annoying. you have no idea how bad trying to solve this is.

[Scioness Sajj]

Tora???

[Myloninja13]

AHHH I don't to lynch anyone here!

[HeWhoSwims]

VC2

UglyDuck (3) (L-2):

wavemode, Lavos, Scioness Sajj

Scioness Sajj (2) (L-3):

mutantdevle, Almost50

Toranaga (1) (L-4):

UglyDuck

Not voting: Myloninja13, UnrealSeal, Toranaga

UglyDuck is at L-2

Day three will last for (expired on 2018-07-24 12:20:04)

[Myloninja13]

Is anyone up for a flash wagon on UnrealSeal tbh? They are the person I'm the most willing to lynch here.

[mutantdevle]

I think they're town.

[Toranaga]

Tora???

sajj!!!

[Scioness Sajj]

do you really think 1506 is good?

[Toranaga]

I mean not really

but he unvoted me so I townread that

I'm just specially silly when people start to complain that they're getting lynched

[Almost50]

This game is boring I want the people that can actually make the world spin w.o doing something crazy/illogical (I can do the world spinning part, but I'm eccentric)

[Lavos]

ok so are we doing uglyduck or are we not

[Lavos]

if we're not i think we should flashwagon mutant

the post that tor said was genuine honestly felt like something out of a play

[Almost50]

ok so are we doing

uglyduck

the second towniest player in the game

or are we not

if we're not i think we should flashwagon

mutant

the

towniest

player in the game

Yeah, that's more like it.

[Scioness Sajj]

how do you people think about UD dodging an explanation on wave

[UglyDuck]

how do you people think about UD dodging an explanation on wave

getting tired of people mis quoting me.

This did not happen. I gave an explanation, I just didn't wall post every instance that led me to said conclusion.

[Scioness Sajj]

C. I moved you to null because I find your recent play less towny then it previously was.

this is your explanation?

[Scioness Sajj]

you call this an explanation?