Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

I guess if i sheep muffin's opinion i'd put cerb there, i still have my reservations tho. Cerb's gistou play led me to believe he's not to be underestimated.

I don't think you were in gistou, at least not under this nick. If there's an alt that's outed going on here, I would appreciate being made aware of it...or at least have you confirm that you 100% were in Gistou and are thus familiar enough with two day phases of my scumplay in a game where I was apparently town enough as scum that the other scum team shot me cuz I was obvtown.

Luna Fox

holy wtf I had no idea
that's cool
do you make a distinction between your two accounts meta-wise? Because I do have experience with your other account and want to know if that's not valid.

Main difference is that as Luna i did more townhunting than scumhunting, i tried to implement that into my main when i stopped using that account, so maybe? it's been a while since i last used that account.

[Nosferatu]

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin,ank}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}

@FA: added you in

pedit: i dont think you have similar play. you just came first so it doesnt make sense to call anything of yours derivative to his lol

[Frozen Angel]

titus saying they voted numbers cause they voted for me as little looks good for titus

damn it reading her this game is a little harder than usual

[Sakura Hana]

Plus i guess since this is an experiment i've been doing this game it's probably irrelevant, last game i was driven to tears because i hard pushed someone and i... dont really want a repeat of that ever, i mean i almost just flat out quit, but figured this option was better.

[Nosferatu]

titus saying they voted numbers cause they voted for me as little looks good for titus

damn it reading her this game is a little harder than usual

ive noticed that i dont really sort titus, i generally just pick an alignment for her and im usually right

[Frozen Angel]

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin,ank}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}

@FA: added you in

pedit: i dont think you have similar play. you just came first so it doesnt make sense to call anything of yours derivative to his lol

I still hate your readlist. I have a hard townread on tora mainly because meta but his play is also towny ignoring the meta. I don't know why you got the cerb drixx sando tire reads and how molla is up there?

is the tier I'm in null?

[Frozen Angel]

titus saying they voted numbers cause they voted for me as little looks good for titus

damn it reading her this game is a little harder than usual

ive noticed that i dont really sort titus, i generally just pick an alignment for her and im usually right

yeah I can say that I never misread her in any games we played together and there are a lot of them. this game is a little complicated cause they are doing mechanical base reads about votes on me which makes her intentions complciated. can't understand if it's scum agenda or she trying to make information that she can use for further reads.

[Human Sequencer]

why is nobody talking to meeeeeee
btw now how is toranaga scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess if i sheep muffin's opinion i'd put cerb there, i still have my reservations tho. Cerb's gistou play led me to believe he's not to be underestimated.

I don't think you were in gistou, at least not under this nick. If there's an alt that's outed going on here, I would appreciate being made aware of it...or at least have you confirm that you 100% were in Gistou and are thus familiar enough with two day phases of my scumplay in a game where I was apparently town enough as scum that the other scum team shot me cuz I was obvtown.

Luna Fox

holy wtf I had no idea
that's cool
do you make a distinction between your two accounts meta-wise? Because I do have experience with your other account and want to know if that's not valid.

Main difference is that as Luna i did more townhunting than scumhunting, i tried to implement that into my main when i stopped using that account, so maybe? it's been a while since i last used that account.

Mhm okay

[Nosferatu]

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin,ank}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}

@FA: added you in

pedit: i dont think you have similar play. you just came first so it doesnt make sense to call anything of yours derivative to his lol

I still hate your readlist. I have a hard townread on tora mainly because meta but his play is also towny ignoring the meta. I don't know why you got the cerb drixx sando tire reads and how molla is up there?

is the tier I'm in null?

its totally possible that im scumreading tora based on playstyle but eh
drixx i just always scumread cause he consistently does nothing at all in games with him
cerb just says some weird shit sometimes i dont like
sando cant make a post with purpose if his life depended on it
molla just for that one vote but he hasnt done anything since so thats a bit yikes yknow

[Gamma Emerald]

Plus i guess since this is an experiment i've been doing this game it's probably irrelevant, last game i was driven to tears because i hard pushed someone and i... dont really want a repeat of that ever, i mean i almost just flat out quit, but figured this option was better.

Uh how were you driven to tears by pushing someone else? If it's to hard for you I won't push you, but in that case I'd like someone familiar with the incident to bring me up to speed.

[Human Sequencer]

It's not worth knowing, gamma

[Human Sequencer]

why is nobody talking to meeeeeee
btw now how is toranaga scum

nos*

[Gamma Emerald]

why is nobody talking to meeeeeee
btw now how is toranaga scum

I kinda think ur scum is why
PEdit: I want to know what happened so I can maybe give play advice to Sakura.

[Sakura Hana]

Uh how were you driven to tears by pushing someone else? If it's to hard for you I won't push you, but in that case I'd like someone familiar with the incident to bring me up to speed.

Basically i pushed someone, and then i got pushed instead. Had literally everyone including my friends pushing me, and everytime i or someone tried to defend myself someone would bring up "but she does that as scum too!", and i basically only got out when i claimed a PR.
Also I had a talk that game with Katsuki where he explained to me that he just does nothing D1 so he can avoid all the BS and stuff going back and forth, and i thought it was a good idea, so that's what i was... going to do this game, but ended up not doing it anyway.

[Nosferatu]

{}
{gamma, ank, sakura}
{human, molla, nancy, muffin}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{drix, cerb}
{sando}
{tora}

if i added a category for leans it would look like this if that helps you get the tiers more FA

[Gamma Emerald]

Uh how were you driven to tears by pushing someone else? If it's to hard for you I won't push you, but in that case I'd like someone familiar with the incident to bring me up to speed.

Basically i pushed someone, and then i got pushed instead. Had literally everyone including my friends pushing me, and everytime i or someone tried to defend myself someone would bring up "but she does that as scum too!", and i basically only got out when i claimed a PR.
Also I had a talk that game with Katsuki where he explained to me that he just does nothing D1 so he can avoid all the BS and stuff going back and forth, and i thought it was a good idea, so that's what i was... going to do this game, but ended up not doing it anyway.

Ah thanks, that actually helps me with both understanding you AND katsuki.
Now I feel even less good about how HS is acting, as she just obstructed the clarification of something that has been bugging me most of the game.

[Human Sequencer]

lol sure gamma

[Frozen Angel]

I am pretty sure leader votes were popularity thing since the start of the game.

I'm fairly confident scum coordinated, but everyone seems to assume that means they coordinated to elect FA. I just think they coordinated to only vote one person each and minimise the risk, however small, that we nail em with it.

It's Titus' seeming confidence that they coordinated to elect FA

and

then not taking that to its logical conclusion that has me worried.

This post is so towny

and yes

titus being sure scum wanted me as the leader but not gunning me first with questions or mechanical push when she knows she can do that even without voting me is concerning AF.

She had been actievely avoiding to engage with me over anything

pedit yeah nos that helps

[Frozen Angel]

@shiro let me ask you this

if you elected anyone but FA, do you think people would read into it as maybe agenda driven? because you're so likely to vote for her anyway that it'd be suspicious if you voted for someone else?

I would suspect him as much as I would suspect you if you were not voting me.

[Frozen Angel]

@Sando

Titus moonlogics a lot though so I don't know how i feel about that.

its not moonlogic titus is assuming things by moonlogic and then not making the first conclusion that she can make like she has tmi

[Human Sequencer]

when gamma graduated from shinobi academy he chose the ultimate art of never being scumread by anybody with half a braincell but it came with the great cost of being unable to scumhunt effectively
nancy is his next disciple

[Gamma Emerald]

when gamma graduated from shinobi academy he chose the ultimate art of never being scumread by anybody with half a braincell but it came with the great cost of being unable to scumhunt effectively
nancy is his next disciple

That's me, Ultimate Village Idi-wait a second that's mean!

Spoiler:

[Frozen Angel]

@Ank, I did. That's because scum likely had a hand in picking FA as leader. That very premise disagreement is why I am being wagoned by Tog.

If I suddenly said FA is town therefore scum did not pick her, the wagon on me would disintegrate.

I was trying and still am trying to counter the obvious. The three biggest early pushers on me, Numbers Cerb and Toog all voted for FA.

yeah thats not how this game works.

why do you think I was picked by scum? how is saying I'm town is backtricking from that stance? these are two seprate things as you mentioned even if scum picked me I can be a town person getting picked or a scum one.

why are you throwing dirt and acting like you're ok with me at the same time?

[Frozen Angel]

I should stick to MU. There my intelligence is respected even if disagreed. I don't get voted for mechanics disagreements and trying to sort from my theory.

You're literally suggesting a plan that:

1. Is likely to have at least one scum being picked for a superpower regardless just via statistics
2. Makes it so FA is not accountable for her picks
3. Makes it so FA can "happen" to have the picks land on scum if she's scum and claim they were random
4. Basically removes any readability from the mechanic, which is the biggest protown way to use it right now

This is a heavily proscum move and I see you in a better light than to assume you would suggest this as town, so you're scum.

1. This is true if FA picks as well. FA was picked by scum so they know how to manipulate her assuming she's town. Also if random they can get useful things.
2. She's not announcing (proscum) so she cannot be accountable anyway.
3. Yeah but she'll give scum PRs anyway if she picks if scum.
4. There isno readability if she won't claim.

I already said I will claim my peeks day 2. WHO IS MANIPULATING ME?

about 3 - then I will be accountable for my reads. as a fan of vca why do you want to deny my picks information?