OPEN 732 : PICK YOUR POWER X/Y (GAME OVER)

[brassherald]

pretty sure ausuka is in this game more than invis is, brass.

Invisibility is in this game?

VOTE: Invisibility

I'd rather have the pressure vote on someone I forgot was in the game than Ausuka who I at least remembered.

[Invisibility]

hi

[OkaPoka]

@invisbility im going to need for you to expand on your scumread on me, like put it into concrete words without using the words: tone, gut, feels off

[Invisibility]

your

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: invisbility

ok will u xplain now

[Invisibility]

i did

[OkaPoka]

ok so your reason for voting was:

a)your tone feels off
b) your gut feels off
c) other

[Invisibility]

a

[skitter30]

and what, this whole thing is awkward distancing for the towncred once ruru flips scum?

Yup

Or he's bad at scum.

Like.. the whole arguing for both sides of the PL seems like a cop-out. You're either for or against. You can change your mind about it, but to be both for AND against at the same time?.. scummy.
Like if enigma is scum and ruru is town why even mention that ruru might be vengeful? Get credit for being cautious? That doesn't work. He just looks bad here so I'm thinking maybe he's trying to get credit for the PL but not actually wanting the PL to happen and that's where the ruru association came from.

If you want the opinion of someone who hasn't played with any of the so called 'clique' .. except maybe skitter I think we've played once before not sure... I understand and agree with the skitter townread. I can see why someone would lean town for ruru but the rest I don't see anything obvtown about them so it makes me uncomfortable when there is a group that trusts each other this quickly. Scum absolutely will try to infiltrate the town bloc and any townie should have healthy skepticism wrt those that agree with them / TR them.

i think he's come to the conclusion that he wants a pl; i don't think he's arguing for both sides of a pl - where do you see that happening? above he said something along the lines of: 'tldr i don't think a pl on ruru is such a bad idea'.

i think he's trying to gauge interest for and promote interest in a pl based on the lolclaim

like he's pushing 'anti-town or scum or noob' and is pushing a pl on her for being anti-town and not really listening to the people who can read her better

ruru's obvtown based on meta; or, more accurately, what she's done here like never comes from scum!her so she's very very very likely town. i don't know how to explain why better than i have already

based on that context i think ofrhz's vote makes sense; like it's possible he's just jumping on the bandwagon but from what i know about the two of them and their previous games together (i was an se in their first newbie game on site and then played brass's pyp with them immediatley thereafter and i talk to both of them on discord and have a fairly decent sense for how they play i think). like given that context his trajectory makes sense too

(we played the second-to-last iteration of jungle republic and iirc you were maf and repped out and AP took your slot and then i death-tunneled him lolz)

@skitter30 you like how people hopped on the wagon with naked votes?

i think i answered this question as best i can above

in a general sense i don't like naked votes, no, but i think given the context of enigma pushing ruru and ofrhz having a pretty good history of reading her the votes make sense

i like the votes in order something like: ruru > ofrhz > sky >>>> ausuka

(i don't remember ausuka's offhand and have like no thoughts on it either way)

p-edit: vizzy vote seems decent too tbh

[OkaPoka]

@skitter30 wait why are you voting engima? do you just like the people on the wagon?

I am getting a lot of blatant sheeping this game which is weird, would like to see more people creating unique cases or at least reiterating what other people say about someone as their reason for voting someone, not i think x is town so im going to sheep.

[skitter30]

i don't like that he's pushing a pl on ruru

i don't know if i'm sheeping so much as noting that i like the wagon comp

[Ausuka]

not scumreading invis, definitely not for the oka vote; feel like the unapologetic nature of the vote instead of making up some justification is town-indicative.

i like the wagon situation w/ enigma and oka.

[Ausuka]

Tbh, this is how I see your earlier actions on pgo claim:

1. Town and true claim
IMO not town-optimal play but w/e not beating a dead horse. There is a high chance scum tried to go for that role, and probably failed. So scum likely know you are telling the truth, and wouldn't be so surprised - you would know this and afford extra scrutiny to those who are less surprised when you are scum hunting (which is not what is happening rn).
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TLDR: PL ruru doesn't seem like a bad idea.

this seems like a really contrived reason to sr ruru? why do you believe so strongly that scum would go for vig/pgo and why do you think town!ruru shares your opinion about it?

[Skygazer]

Ehhh Ausuka needs to post more but I'm not seeing her vote in that bad of a light tbh, it comes directly after 39 which was super scummy

pedit oh there you are

[Ausuka]

Is Ausuka always this quiet? I literally cannot remember.

i had 7 posts in 2 days at this point. this is far above prod range, it is also completely normal activity. yes, this is normal activity for me and has been for a while, and i would have thought that you would know that.

[Ausuka]

Hey guys, I'm here. I'm like 3 pages behind but I'm catching up. So sorry to have not contributed. I'm gonna do a list of ISO reads to make up for it though.

So far, I gotta say that Ceej is the towniest I've ever seen him. I lean town on him, but my inner paranoiac wonders if scum!ceej is just not super towny. (I've never played with Ceej as scum.) I know that I tend to come off as more towny when I roll scum... perhaps because, in those cases, I actually take time to do things with the intent to come off as towny.

I'm no longer feeling my BuJaber vote, so

UNVOTE:

Also ofrhz seems pretty town too.

I'll probably have a scum pick or two after I do my ISOs, so stay tuned.

this seems town.

[Ausuka]

VOTE: Ausuka

Join the game.

this is utterly ridiculous. i've been playing the game and i've given reads. if my activity is really unacceptable to most players in this game i can replace out, but what you've been doing isn't helpful in any way.

[Ausuka]

@brass: what is the point of going around putting "pressure votes" on people that have never been prodded and have given content in the game and why is it better than scumhunting?

[OkaPoka]

not scumreading invis, definitely not for the oka vote; feel like the unapologetic nature of the vote instead of making up some justification is town-indicative.

i like the wagon situation w/ enigma and oka.

wut

you are really townreading a tone vote this late into day 1?

[ruru]

Thought experiment:

Assume lynching me or wking me is 100% NAI

Who's scum and why?

@everyone

[Ausuka]

not scumreading invis, definitely not for the oka vote; feel like the unapologetic nature of the vote instead of making up some justification is town-indicative.

i like the wagon situation w/ enigma and oka.

wut

you are really townreading a tone vote this late into day 1?

yeah, i feel like invis is town? it's 2 days into d1.

[OkaPoka]

not scumreading invis, definitely not for the oka vote; feel like the unapologetic nature of the vote instead of making up some justification is town-indicative.

i like the wagon situation w/ enigma and oka.

wut

you are really townreading a tone vote this late into day 1?

yeah, i feel like invis is town? it's 2 days into d1.

imo feels like a lame reason to tr but whatever

what made you compelled to voice your position on invis?

[Ausuka]

not scumreading invis, definitely not for the oka vote; feel like the unapologetic nature of the vote instead of making up some justification is town-indicative.

i like the wagon situation w/ enigma and oka.

wut

you are really townreading a tone vote this late into day 1?

yeah, i feel like invis is town? it's 2 days into d1.

imo feels like a lame reason to tr but whatever

what made you compelled to voice your position on invis?

people were scumreading invis, for reasons I felt were playstyle related and not scummy, so I spoke about my read on that player. although I don't really need a justification- if a player is being talked about it is perfectly normal to also give your opinion on that player.

[AP]

Looks like I missed something a long ago:

@ap: is this a fair assessment of scum!cj given jungle republic? (from skitter)

Yes, more or less. He plays well in-thread but doesn't talk much in the scum PT. However, I was caught on N1, so didn't even have enough time to talk to him much myself.

[the worst]

quack