Open 726 - Revenge of the Vengeful (Endgame)


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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:52 am

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In post 195, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: Oath

If we are not using any strategy to votes/veng kills then I think we need to put pressure on Oath. Only three posts and zero content.

@Oath what are your reads? What do you think of the current game state?
I agree. VOTE: Oath Btw you have gained town points for your stream of posts. I'll post another list of reads tomorrow... with simple colors :D
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why oath over NM?
Why N_M over Oath? Why this post?? Potential association here (not meaning I don't townread you)
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:56 am

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It means those are the reads I've gathered in 9 pages of not much.

Carry on.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:23 pm

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In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why oath over NM?
It's going to seem shallow...... but post count.

They are pretty much equal as far as how I'm reading them.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:43 pm

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In post 203, IcemanCh wrote:
In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why oath over NM?
It's going to seem shallow...... but post count.

They are pretty much equal as far as how I'm reading them.
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This actually reads as strong town because no scum would risk such a weird read that won't get anyone lynched on D1 lol.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:45 pm

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Vote Count 1.7



[3]
Not_Mafia
- TrinityNZ, Enigma, RadiantCowbells
(L-2)

[3]
Oath
- Not_Mafia, IcemanCh, Marshmallow Marshall
(L-2)

[2]
Marshmallow Marshall
- Almost50, Rei
[1]
Rei
- Oath
Almost50 -
Enigma -
IcemanCh -
RadiantCowbells -
TrinityNZ -


Not Voting (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2018-07-24 11:30:00) from now, or July 24th, 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6).


Prodding: N/A
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:07 pm

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Oath, is there any reason I shouldn’t switch my vote to you and make you L-1?
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:37 pm

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VOTE: Trinity
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:56 pm

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In post 207, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Trinity
What’s made you switch from N_M to me?
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:11 pm

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pretty sure you're both scum and hopping on the oath wagon to get a non-NM lynch through
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:11 pm

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obviously I'll go back to NM if it happens but you're scum as well so.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:35 pm

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In post 209, RadiantCowbells wrote:pretty sure you're both scum and hopping on the oath wagon to get a non-NM lynch through
I’m really just trying to prod oath and get some sort of reaction.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:08 am

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ehh

for the record I just got annoyed that you were voting for oath and knee jerk called you scum, after review I tentatively think that you're town. you need to do more though.

can you give me like a readslist with reasons?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:09 am

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so I'll just assume trinity's town even if that's not fully supported, I think I'll figure it out
RC's town
enigma's town

Don't have a super strong reason to townread Oath but suspect they're town by wagon composition

iffy on iceman but their entrance was okay I guess
A50 I think is sliightly above rand to be town? bu

that leaves

MM
NM
Rei
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:27 am

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okay so NM/MM is two scum
In post 28, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 13, Enigma wrote:
In post 11, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pretty sure keerigan is town

Why did you vote him enigma
Because his first post is to set up a defence for when he gets accused later in game :roll:
tbh woulda done it regardless of his RV :giggle:

"but guayyys im behaving scummy not because im scum but but but because its how i always play"

How are you so sure he is town already from just one post?
In post 15, Enigma wrote:he's only played a few games, have a look at his flips?
VOTE: Not_Mafia
0 mention of NM, then votes him. RVS, sure, but high equity to be a SvS interaction. He never addresses it again.

[quote\]However, the fact that he searched for me is quite townish... but again, we must not read for activity[/quote]

This is pretty fucking strange: why would I have bothered to search for him. This isn't a question of reading for activity, it's a question of the fact that it's something I have literally no motivation to do as scum besides to fake my towngame.
writing it off as activity is scum handwaving a reason to townread me.
In post 46, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 45, Rei wrote:Her vote on NM seems a bit empty
I don't see her posting anything else either
trying to get her to engage more I guess
N_M neither though ^^
next mention of N_M and it implies that NM is empty and not engaging but makes no effort to follow it up
Wait, no. It doesn't because you did not even refer to what you meant. Unless you intentionally made a double edged question... :eek:
this is still ick
Why I townread RC but wonder if he didn't try to buddy me? Because he's right, but he saw only a half of the post (As did Enigma, but I do not believe it has a strong scum use). He said it looked like genuine anger, and he's right, because it took a long long time on my homesite for people to accept my style, even as town. However, I worded that in a so scummy way that I thought he would at least MENTION it was scummy. Idk, I'm not saying he should've scumread me for it, but maybe... express an healthy amount of suspicion towards a genuine-scummy post? I still townread him though.
this is again awful
if he thinks that he was genuinely scummy and that I called him scum regardless then he should have a problem with that. lack of healthy amount of suspicion towards a genuinely scummy post is something you should be worried about it
this is again another part where the way he talks about his read on me should be a scumread but he ends up saying that he townreads me in spite of it

NM comes in, continues to do absolutely nothing
Someone please give an award to RC who got N_M to post serious stuff. That seriously deserves a medal. @N_M, reads yet? What do you think about me?

I am asking this question to everyone btw. Please answer.
this is a really bad post, way he singles out nm feels kind of bad but the extending it to everyone gives definite gut vibes that he's trying to not make NM look different in his ISO from other people

also really the whole 'I was intentionally scummy' makes a lot more sense as scum who just thinks that they were scummy and is repeatedly trying to make an excuse for it than as town who was intentionally acting scummy for reasons that make no sense

Not_Mafia. He's not different from the games I've played with him, and he was town in every of them. Slight slight slight townish lean.
townread on NM is cmoplete garbage.
In post 141, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:In post 139, Not_Mafia wrote:
Snore
Care to defend yourself?
weird post

+

why is he asking someone that he supposedly townreads to defend themselves?
Tbh, I agree with you... Since scum have a perma chat, they can plan during day. It's not like normal setups where D1 is the 14 first days where scum don't have any coordination.
I think the odds of him actually making this post as town are super super low, I don't think newbies generally think a lot about hwether scum have daychat or not
In post 167, Not_Mafia wrote:You can't leash someone when there's no consequences to them not following through with the plan
In post 168, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:I agree with N_M
again the setting up venge chains order is super, super, super protown and increases town equity a ridiculous amount
who are the two people in this game who try to discourage us from setting up venge chains so that we can prevent scum from getting nightkills? these two.
In post 182, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Tomorrow I'll explain y'all the reasons of my strategy. If you're town, you should probably convince us you are. And if you're scum, you should try to lie!
I can't put anything to this that anyone would understand but I think this post is extremely scum indicative
In post 184, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
You read N_M in the same way that you read Almost50?? :?: :shifty: :?:
what's with the focus on the NM read? Why does NM come up so disproporitonately often for someone who is barely in the game
In post 193, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Right now, I have doubts on N_M. He actually contributed, which is against his town meta... I've never seen him play scum, but does someone know if he acts more contributive as town or scum, or if it's NAI?
and again another terribly svs interaction: his rationale is basically that NM is scummy because they actually posted but instead of following up on that he immediately goes to other people to try to get them to dissuade him
Well, half of N_M's posts were about ISP term, but he actually expressed a legitimate concern about leashing vengekills, which is 100% right. He doesn't feel like the previous games I played with him. Unless it's because I'm town now o.0
yeah ok
In post 200, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 195, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: Oath

If we are not using any strategy to votes/veng kills then I think we need to put pressure on Oath. Only three posts and zero content.

@Oath what are your reads? What do you think of the current game state?
I agree. VOTE: Oath Btw you have gained town points for your stream of posts. I'll post another list of reads tomorrow... with simple colors :D
In post 201, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why oath over NM?
Why N_M over Oath? Why this post?? Potential association here (not meaning I don't townread you)
votes the counterwagon to NM despite having just claimed NM as a scumread then tries to call me out for me asking him why he voted oath instead of answering
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:28 am

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i go to bed now tho
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:30 am

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but uh yeah

I'm also going to strongly advocate that we lynch -neither- of them and instead lynch a partner read and have them venge one if we're town so that we don't give scum nightkills
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:49 am

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:roll: :roll: :roll:
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:23 am

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In post 206, TrinityNZ wrote:Oath, is there any reason I shouldn’t switch my vote to you and make you L-1?
Aside from me being town, no.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 209, RadiantCowbells wrote:pretty sure you're both scum and hopping on the oath wagon to get a non-NM lynch through
This makes sense, but I have the feeling it's too easy... They are however all my scummish reads, and it would fit.... :?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:34 am

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In post 213, RadiantCowbells wrote:so I'll just assume trinity's town even if that's not fully supported, I think I'll figure it out
RC's town
enigma's town

Don't have a super strong reason to townread Oath but suspect they're town by wagon composition

iffy on iceman but their entrance was okay I guess
A50 I think is sliightly above rand to be town? bu

that leaves

MM
NM
Rei
VOTE: N_M. L-1
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:34 am

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In post 213, RadiantCowbells wrote:so I'll just assume trinity's town even if that's not fully supported, I think I'll figure it out
RC's town
enigma's town

Don't have a super strong reason to townread Oath but suspect they're town by wagon composition

iffy on iceman but their entrance was okay I guess
A50 I think is sliightly above rand to be town? bu

that leaves

MM
NM
Rei
Why is Rei scummy to you?
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:42 am

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Spoiler: fat quote
In post 214, RadiantCowbells wrote:okay so NM/MM is two scum
In post 28, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 13, Enigma wrote:
In post 11, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pretty sure keerigan is town

Why did you vote him enigma
Because his first post is to set up a defence for when he gets accused later in game :roll:
tbh woulda done it regardless of his RV :giggle:

"but guayyys im behaving scummy not because im scum but but but because its how i always play"

How are you so sure he is town already from just one post?
In post 15, Enigma wrote:he's only played a few games, have a look at his flips?
VOTE: Not_Mafia
0 mention of NM, then votes him. RVS, sure, but high equity to be a SvS interaction. He never addresses it again.

[quote\]However, the fact that he searched for me is quite townish... but again, we must not read for activity
This is pretty fucking strange: why would I have bothered to search for him. This isn't a question of reading for activity, it's a question of the fact that it's something I have literally no motivation to do as scum besides to fake my towngame.
writing it off as activity is scum handwaving a reason to townread me.
In post 46, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 45, Rei wrote:Her vote on NM seems a bit empty
I don't see her posting anything else either
trying to get her to engage more I guess
N_M neither though ^^
next mention of N_M and it implies that NM is empty and not engaging but makes no effort to follow it up
Wait, no. It doesn't because you did not even refer to what you meant. Unless you intentionally made a double edged question... :eek:
this is still ick
Why I townread RC but wonder if he didn't try to buddy me? Because he's right, but he saw only a half of the post (As did Enigma, but I do not believe it has a strong scum use). He said it looked like genuine anger, and he's right, because it took a long long time on my homesite for people to accept my style, even as town. However, I worded that in a so scummy way that I thought he would at least MENTION it was scummy. Idk, I'm not saying he should've scumread me for it, but maybe... express an healthy amount of suspicion towards a genuine-scummy post? I still townread him though.
this is again awful
if he thinks that he was genuinely scummy and that I called him scum regardless then he should have a problem with that. lack of healthy amount of suspicion towards a genuinely scummy post is something you should be worried about it
this is again another part where the way he talks about his read on me should be a scumread but he ends up saying that he townreads me in spite of it

NM comes in, continues to do absolutely nothing
Someone please give an award to RC who got N_M to post serious stuff. That seriously deserves a medal. @N_M, reads yet? What do you think about me?

I am asking this question to everyone btw. Please answer.
this is a really bad post, way he singles out nm feels kind of bad but the extending it to everyone gives definite gut vibes that he's trying to not make NM look different in his ISO from other people

also really the whole 'I was intentionally scummy' makes a lot more sense as scum who just thinks that they were scummy and is repeatedly trying to make an excuse for it than as town who was intentionally acting scummy for reasons that make no sense

Not_Mafia. He's not different from the games I've played with him, and he was town in every of them. Slight slight slight townish lean.
townread on NM is cmoplete garbage.
In post 141, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:In post 139, Not_Mafia wrote:
Snore
Care to defend yourself?
weird post

+

why is he asking someone that he supposedly townreads to defend themselves?
Tbh, I agree with you... Since scum have a perma chat, they can plan during day. It's not like normal setups where D1 is the 14 first days where scum don't have any coordination.
I think the odds of him actually making this post as town are super super low, I don't think newbies generally think a lot about hwether scum have daychat or not
In post 167, Not_Mafia wrote:You can't leash someone when there's no consequences to them not following through with the plan
In post 168, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:I agree with N_M
again the setting up venge chains order is super, super, super protown and increases town equity a ridiculous amount
who are the two people in this game who try to discourage us from setting up venge chains so that we can prevent scum from getting nightkills? these two.
In post 182, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Tomorrow I'll explain y'all the reasons of my strategy. If you're town, you should probably convince us you are. And if you're scum, you should try to lie!
I can't put anything to this that anyone would understand but I think this post is extremely scum indicative
In post 184, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
You read N_M in the same way that you read Almost50?? :?: :shifty: :?:
what's with the focus on the NM read? Why does NM come up so disproporitonately often for someone who is barely in the game
In post 193, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Right now, I have doubts on N_M. He actually contributed, which is against his town meta... I've never seen him play scum, but does someone know if he acts more contributive as town or scum, or if it's NAI?
and again another terribly svs interaction: his rationale is basically that NM is scummy because they actually posted but instead of following up on that he immediately goes to other people to try to get them to dissuade him
Well, half of N_M's posts were about ISP term, but he actually expressed a legitimate concern about leashing vengekills, which is 100% right. He doesn't feel like the previous games I played with him. Unless it's because I'm town now o.0
yeah ok
In post 200, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 195, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: Oath

If we are not using any strategy to votes/veng kills then I think we need to put pressure on Oath. Only three posts and zero content.

@Oath what are your reads? What do you think of the current game state?
I agree. VOTE: Oath Btw you have gained town points for your stream of posts. I'll post another list of reads tomorrow... with simple colors :D
In post 201, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why oath over NM?
Why N_M over Oath? Why this post?? Potential association here (not meaning I don't townread you)
votes the counterwagon to NM despite having just claimed NM as a scumread then tries to call me out for me asking him why he voted oath instead of answering[/quote]

:shifty: :roll: :shifty: :roll: :shifty: :roll: :shifty: :dead:

Tunneling D1 is bad... I'm in for a N_M lynch, and honestly townread you. But this is utter BULLSHIT lol. My point still stands. We should not lynch the #########scummiest player. Just lynch the guy you scumread the most and say who you think that player could be teamed with. The lynched player will then vengekill the supposed teammate. That does not affect the lynch process effectivness while giving us a small buff.

I believe Trinity could be scum with N_M. Maybe Iceman, Oath. A50 too.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 am

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In post 207, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Trinity
Oh wait, N_M is at L-2, not L-1. :igmeou:
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:20 am

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I demand
a trial by combat
N_M to be put at L-1.
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