NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Taly]

1725 to 1727 - My ISO group on

Xyzzy, Sky, Elbirn

, followed by my case/vote on

Elbirn

1805 to 1806 - ISO on

HeWhoSwims

and why I don't think he's a good lynch option

My posts on

TW, Chick, Hit, and Inferno

right now are in my ISO and a few pages back

Elbirn

is at L-2 with vote order being:

Rask, Taly, Sky, TW, Inferno, xyzzy

[the worst]

righteous wagon.

[profii]

Are people even reading my posts?

Didn't get to

profii

today but he's next on my ISO list

give me pagetop please

I get that you think you caught scum here but you don’t need to spam to get the page top to draw attention to yourself.


I find it notable that I asked you to do 1 thing a few pages back - please summarise what made you lynch Elbirn over Skygazer - and you managed to respond to all the unimportant parts of my last few posts except the bit I’m really interested in

That is [one of] the scum tell you caught me on in that other game, I’m sure you remember... I really want to vote & flip Elbirn to prove a point but that also seems stupid

[brassherald]

After some discussion with Pine and a talk with my, well, I don't really know the status right now fully, I've decided to just be on extended VLA until I'm really back into the mindset to be fully in the game.

I'll definitely be out the rest of the day.

Thanks for all the kind words, and I will just hop with most of my townblock on this.

VOTE: Elbirn

I'll be around to respond to any direct questions for sure, and this is likely going to remain my only game while I work through my personal things. Please still consider me for whatever, this is not meant to be an AtE, it's just been a really emotional and tiring weekend.

[profii]

L-1 I believe

[Pine]

Indeed. Working on a VC.

[Taly]

Confirming it is L-1, please state intent to hammer and do not hammer until we have

SEVERAL

people caught up

I find it notable that I asked you to do 1 thing a few pages back - please summarise what made you lynch Elbirn over Skygazer - and you managed to respond to all the unimportant parts of my last few posts except the bit I’m really interested in

That is [one of] the scum tell you caught me on in that other game, I’m sure you remember... I really want to vote & flip Elbirn to prove a point but that also seems stupid

What post was this question in?

Why Elbirn Is My Push For A Lynch Today

1)

If you read my assessment in depth, you'd see there were simply more reasons for me to think

Elbirn

was scum over

Sky

based off play, and not solely dictated off associative.

2) Elbirn

has not been nearly as engaged or active as

Sky

.

3) Elbirn

has actively posted with a motive I can only see as someone who's trying to either cast uncertainty on players, or push for a lynch agenda that doesn't align with solving the game. Take the

xyzzy

push for example.

4)

Has had really ill interactions with

Flub

prior to his lynch and has been very dismissive of his posts who flipped town, alongside

Inferno's

, who I feel is very likely town.

5)

He's more keen on deflecting scumreads than

Sky

in a sense, he questions people a lot on the townreads on him, but he doesn't make assertions on how that's AI to another person. It feels strongly like he doesn't believe he's town or is trying to defend for its existence when his alignment is brought up.

6) Elbirn

hasn't provided much of any content, and it can be argued

Sky

has generally done more.

7)

Probably my weakest reason, but to a degree,

Elbirn

is a better lynch because other people feel he's very likely scum as opposed to potentially

Sky

.

I just feel

Elbirn's

a better lynch for the gamestate, acquiring flip info., and probability of actually being scum. I can go in depth and link posts of his and mine that support why I want this lynch now if you need me to.

But if I could, then

Elbirn-Sky

would both eat rope today.

[the worst]

UNVOTE:

look at me, I'm so town~~

[Skygazer]

wow tw thats so lamist

[the worst]

*points at my halo*

basically IC up in here yo

[profii]

Confirming it is L-1, please state intent to hammer and do not hammer until we have

SEVERAL

people caught up

I find it notable that I asked you to do 1 thing a few pages back - please summarise what made you lynch Elbirn over Skygazer - and you managed to respond to all the unimportant parts of my last few posts except the bit I’m really interested in

That is [one of] the scum tell you caught me on in that other game, I’m sure you remember... I really want to vote & flip Elbirn to prove a point but that also seems stupid

What post was this question in?

Why Elbirn Is My Push For A Lynch Today

1)

If you read my assessment in depth, you'd see there were simply more reasons for me to think

Elbirn

was scum over

Sky

based off play, and not solely dictated off associative.

2) Elbirn

has not been nearly as engaged or active as

Sky

.

3) Elbirn

has actively posted with a motive I can only see as someone who's trying to either cast uncertainty on players, or push for a lynch agenda that doesn't align with solving the game. Take the

xyzzy

push for example.

4)

Has had really ill interactions with

Flub

prior to his lynch and has been very dismissive of his posts who flipped town, alongside

Inferno's

, who I feel is very likely town.

5)

He's more keen on deflecting scumreads than

Sky

in a sense, he questions people a lot on the townreads on him, but he doesn't make assertions on how that's AI to another person. It feels strongly like he doesn't believe he's town or is trying to defend for its existence when his alignment is brought up.

6) Elbirn

hasn't provided much of any content, and it can be argued

Sky

has generally done more.

7)

Probably my weakest reason, but to a degree,

Elbirn

is a better lynch because other people feel he's very likely scum as opposed to potentially

Sky

.

I just feel

Elbirn's

a better lynch for the gamestate, acquiring flip info., and probability of actually being scum. I can go in depth and link posts of his and mine that support why I want this lynch now if you need me to.

But if I could, then

Elbirn-Sky

would both eat rope today.

1860 - in a sentence... etc etc


I’ll look over this at work assuming a hammer doesn’t come along

To be fair looks legit enough, I just want to look carefully at if some of that is actually AI - eg activity - are we playing lynch all lurkers here? Etc

My gut is telling me that this wagon is too easy, however we’ve just had the first bottler in TW there and I don’t think we need to be patronised with the big font and L-1 warning- if you are so assured in your case then why are you so bothered about a lol hammer


In fact I’m going to put that to the test -

VOTE: Elbirn

That’s L-1 again, let’s have an intent if someone wants it but don’t lol hammer, there is obviously a plethora of PR in this game so it may be foolish

[Raskolnikov]

UNVOTE:
no rush day enderino

[the worst]

look at Rask, he's so town

[profii]

interesting

[the worst]

dude there's several people who actively want to catch up and contribute, even allowing Elbirn to self hammer is not good rn >:

nothing interesting about it

[Taly]

My gut is telling me that this wagon is too easy, however we’ve just had the first bottler in TW there and I don’t think we need to be patronised with the big font and L-1 warning- if you are so assured in your case then why are you so bothered about a lol hammer

Because multiple people still need to post, and the fact that this wagon has had no resistance is what makes me want people to post more.

Just because I strongly scumread and am hardpushing for that lynch on

Elbirn

doesn't mean everything else is thrown out of the window to me

[Skygazer]

okay i'd like to lynch profii tomorrow regardless of the elbirn flip

[profii]

okay i'd like to lynch profii tomorrow regardless of the elbirn flip

I feel the same way but more so if Eibirn flips town, soz

[profii]

My gut is telling me that this wagon is too easy, however we’ve just had the first bottler in TW there and I don’t think we need to be patronised with the big font and L-1 warning- if you are so assured in your case then why are you so bothered about a lol hammer

Because multiple people still need to post, and the fact that this wagon has had no resistance is what makes me want people to post more.

Just because I strongly scumread and am hardpushing for that lynch on

Elbirn

doesn't mean everything else is thrown out of the window to me

Why do you care about people being caught up if you caught scum?

On a scale of 1-10 how confident are you in eibirn flipping red?

If you are near the top of that scale removing scum is much more important than people being caught up

I think it’s good that we have seen people remove themselves from the wagon at this critical point- especially with the question mark over the fruit vendors so handy to have Rask in there anyway

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: profii
That kind of shading manipulative AF btw

Also you're applying an expectation from Taly onto other people. You can't blanket apply strong conviction to everyone based on taly (and then tell people how to act based on it) that's shallow at best

[Raskolnikov]

Referring to 1910

[the worst]

/innnn
VOTE: profii

[Raskolnikov]

But also in general there's 11 days left
In no hurry to rush things along here
Give every man a proper trial and all that

[the worst]

mos def

I'm surprised how in sync we are this game Rask

[Inferno390]

VOTE: profii

FYI, I’m still for Elbirn. This is just to prevent stupidity and to push some pressure in Profii’s direction.