Tbh, your plan is a 100% good for town and doesn't profit to scum if you're one... You are 99% confirmed town in my eyes now. Flipflop Inc.In post 316, Almost50 wrote:What don't you understand? I'm offering myself as your vengekill target. If we both flip town the rest of players are forced to reevaluate their reads. If one of us flips scum they can carry on accordingly. I obviously know my own alignment, but it seems like I'm failing to show it, so it would be good for the town to remove me (and the same applies to you regardless of your alignment).In post 315, TrinityNZ wrote:TBH I don’t understand this ‘plan’ and I haven’t seen much support for it. What does everyone else think?In post 311, Almost50 wrote:Yes, Trinity needs to confirm sticking to the plan. I dunno how to deal with it after the flip though. It needs to be dealt with now because upon the flip she is supposed to take someone with her already.
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Ok thanks. I’d like to see what others think too, I find it hard to believe that deliberately getting rid of two town is a good idea but I’m less experienced at strategy so if everyone agrees I will do it.In post 316, Almost50 wrote:
What don't you understand? I'm offering myself as your vengekill target. If we both flip town the rest of players are forced to reevaluate their reads. If one of us flips scum they can carry on accordingly. I obviously know my own alignment, but it seems like I'm failing to show it, so it would be good for the town to remove me (and the same applies to you regardless of your alignment).In post 315, TrinityNZ wrote:
TBH I don’t understand this ‘plan’ and I haven’t seen much support for it. What does everyone else think?In post 311, Almost50 wrote:Yes, Trinity needs to confirm sticking to the plan. I dunno how to deal with it after the flip though. It needs to be dealt with now because upon the flip she is supposed to take someone with her already.-
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No, not all! I just want to make sure I understand and that others agree.In post 324, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Scummmmyyyyyyy VOTE: TrinityNZ sounds like a scum trying to see if he has a chance to escape from that plan.In post 315, TrinityNZ wrote:
TBH I don’t understand this ‘plan’ and I haven’t seen much support for it. What does everyone else think?In post 311, Almost50 wrote:Yes, Trinity needs to confirm sticking to the plan. I dunno how to deal with it after the flip though. It needs to be dealt with now because upon the flip she is supposed to take someone with her already.-
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Ok, could you refresh me on the 4 scummiest from your eye? Who needs to be lynched/vengekilled by end of D2.In post 163, RadiantCowbells wrote:because you want to kill the 4 scummiest people before day 3
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I suppose the question here is: let's say Trinity doesn't vengekill you, who would you FOS D2?In post 321, Almost50 wrote:I dunno! I'd be gone anyway. Just do a global readlist I guess and repeat the process maybe?-
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Assuming Trinity flips red? I mean, you started off with a red flip assumption and now you assume she won't be venging me, so it goes w/o saying that you're assuming a red flip from her, but I wanted to make sure that's the case we're hypo inspecting.In post 333, Enigma wrote:
I suppose the question here is: let's say Trinity doesn't vengekill you, who would you FOS D2?In post 321, Almost50 wrote:I dunno! I'd be gone anyway. Just do a global readlist I guess and repeat the process maybe?
Now let's see.. I'm TRing you, MM, RC and N_M to various extents, which leaves me with Ice, Rei & Oath as suspects. That would be a 2/3 chance of hitting a second scumster there by mere randomness (assuming I have perfect reads, which -of course- is very much debatable).
Now EVEN if we mislynch there then it becomes a 100% the venge is gonna hit scum (again, assuming that my reads are perfect).
However, all that doesn't really worry me. What worries me more is the chance Trinity flips GREEN and then venges someone who is not me. In that case I should be tomorrow's lynch myself, and then the whole game outcome might depend onmyvenge target (and I might add that I'm more prone to lose in LyLo as town). That is why part of why I wanted Trinity to take me out anyway, and especially so if she is Town.
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In post 330, RadiantCowbells wrote:She gutreads town to me
Did you read A50's plan? It literally has 0 downsides.In post 331, RadiantCowbells wrote:And I don't have a whole lot of people I'm actually townreading in this lobbyNorweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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Actually, I've also been feeling less in favour of a Trinity vote following her last few posts. I feel she responded well to the pressure, and demonstrated some town traits to keep around for a bit longer.
To be honest, feeling more of an Oath or Rei lynch today - where ideally they both kill each other. Get rid of lurkers and don't have to deal with them (and their perhaps reluctance to cooperate if town) in D2.
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I believe there's something to do with Rei. Not Oath. If we are going for that, Oath shall fall (and if town, vengekill Rei).In post 338, Enigma wrote:Actually, I've also been feeling less in favour of a Trinity vote following her last few posts. I feel she responded well to the pressure, and demonstrated some town traits to keep around for a bit longer.
To be honest, feeling more of an Oath or Rei lynch today - where ideally they both kill each other. Get rid of lurkers and don't have to deal with them (and their perhaps reluctance to cooperate if town) in D2.
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VOTE: Trinity stick to this plan then. Sorry but I don't like dyingIn post 341, Oath wrote:Nah my venge kill is most definitely on Marshmallow. Granted, I still haven't done my re-read. But my gut hates that guy.Norweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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so you think that someone is scum, but they threaten to vengekill you
now they're scum so they'd be making whatever the highest equity play is anyway
but you don't want to lynch them because they're going to venge you, IF they're town?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 344, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
VOTE: Trinity stick to this plan then. Sorry but I don't like dyingIn post 341, Oath wrote:Nah my venge kill is most definitely on Marshmallow. Granted, I still haven't done my re-read. But my gut hates that guy.
Hey guys. Been super busy at work. Posting when I can. I've been keeping up on reading and I find this to be..... a bad post.
I agree with A50s plan. I'm not sure that I see much downside to it. I'm not sure how things stack up now though and want to just make sure we're on the right path. I suspect Trinity but, I think I'm starting to suspect MM more. Worst thing we could do is lose two townies.
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