SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

Espeonage · Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:29 pm

Why the fuck is Maria all of a sudden a thing?

ISO · Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:32 pm

*shrugs*

Commander Shepard · Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:20 am

In post 2496, Dunnstral wrote:Not lynching Maria, if we were lynching cops we'd be lynching fire but I don't want a cop today

In post 2497, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2481, Commander Shepard wrote:Okay.

Now we know that punreader is a proven vig/SK/killer
You are never going to say you are scum
When I was starting to be townread Vax then claims vig on me.

Why did you not counterclaim Vax or pressure Vax? You and I both have very strong evidence that Vax is likely lying.
Me because I am alive
And you because of you claimed role
I'm not a vig role, really, though I do optionally contribute a broadcasted kill (it can be protected from, he knows the day before), and my role was already claimed in thread when vax claimed his stuff so there's no reason I had to be the one to say something

1) If MariaR is scum it’s with Dunn. Dunn!Scum I think would put off the cop shit as much as possible
2) If a kill exists and is known about from the day before even if you broadcasted it how would someone protect themselves from it? Doctors/Jailkeeps/other roles don’t generally protect themselves
3) Assuming this is true which it gets more and more sketchy, why did you choose the role you did?

Commander Shepard · Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:22 am

In post 2500, Espeonage wrote:Why the fuck is Maria all of a sudden a thing?

I think it is a pivot from people knowing Fire is town so they don’t want to lynch there.
Scum got exhausted from trying to mislynch me.

And there really isn’t a leader to actually go “no y’all are being silly” scum is blah blah blah.

I kinda wanna see Dunn’s response but I think I have an idea.

Shoshin · Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:24 am

I've been suspicious of Maria since D1, so it ain't nothing new. I just sort of forgot until I reread and saw all the same problems.

Shoshin · Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:09 am

As far I can tell, the only players who suspect Maria are me, DV, and Shepard. Is that correct?

Shoshin · Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:13 am

Dunn, were you told Espe's exact role in your PM?

Vaxkiller · Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:43 am

In post 2449, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 3.9

Commander Shepard
(4): Fire Assassin, Vaxkiller, MariaR, DeasVail

Shoshin
(3): Punreader, Commander Shepard, the worst

Fire Assassin
(2): Espeonage, guacamole

Not Voting
(3): Chara, Dunnstral, Shoshin

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-21 13:08:00)

Looking to replace Chara.

If shep were town then scum would be clamoring to this wagon. Unless your arguing most of us are scum.... then why wouldnt we jump to ANOTHER wagon, unless your arguing THEY are scum too. Is everyone scum cshep?

GET ON THIS WAGON EVERYONE!!!!

Commander Shepard · Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:11 am

1) No scum would not clamor to my wagon.
They did so at the start thinking I would be easy mislynch bait.

However when I flip town people know they would be held accountable so they don’t want in.

Furthermore like almost everyone is inactive so more reasons your point is invalid

And if you actually had shot me you’d have CC’s Dunn or Pun long before this point.

guacamole · Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:43 am

Can we lynch Fire Assassin? I read that iso and don't think it's coming from town.

guacamole · Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:52 am

Vaxkiller I'd think you were scum trying desperately to lynch a townie they can't safely kill, if it weren't so unlikely that you'd gamble as scum on being lynched if it's a town flip.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:40 am

In post 2509, guacamole wrote:Can we lynch Fire Assassin? I read that iso and don't think it's coming from town.

We assuredly can.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:41 am

I prefer me cop checking Maria than lynching her today.
Commander Shepherd is my pref lynch here.

Dunnstral · Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:08 pm

Maria, do you think cross checking with Fire is a bad idea?

MariaR · Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:15 pm

Isn't fire's cop result random?

MariaR · Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:18 pm

I would rather lynch Commander today as I tr half the playerlist I don't really know what else we're waiting for and I'm rather bored at this point Shoshin still has explained only once in a single paragraph on D1 why I'm scum and when I answered back she said "wow that's pretty scummy too." so as much as I felt she's being towny she needs to step it up and get something done.

Espeonage · Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:19 pm

In post 2507, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 2449, Errantparabola wrote:
Votecount 3.9

Commander Shepard
(4): Fire Assassin, Vaxkiller, MariaR, DeasVail

Shoshin
(3): Punreader, Commander Shepard, the worst

Fire Assassin
(2): Espeonage, guacamole

Not Voting
(3): Chara, Dunnstral, Shoshin

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-21 13:08:00)

Looking to replace Chara.
If shep were town then scum would be clamoring to this wagon. Unless your arguing most of us are scum.... then why wouldnt we jump to ANOTHER wagon, unless your arguing THEY are scum too. Is everyone scum cshep?

GET ON THIS WAGON EVERYONE!!!!

This is probably conf bias talking but if Fire is scum, scum wouldn't want to be caught all jumping on Shep. The counterpoint is Shep on Sho. But I think it shines worst on the worst.

:/ Scum are also locked by their stated reads I guess. The people not on a wagon need to get on a wagon because if like Sho and Chara are scum we're arguing while a slice of scum are just sitting around waiting.

Espeonage · Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:19 pm

I am against the cross invest bc scum can kill Maria for nothing but gain especially if I am right about Fire.

Espeonage · Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:20 pm

I will compromise on Sho, worst, or DV I think.

MariaR · Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm

The biggest selling point is Sho and Shepard don't seem like partners because if they were they'd fake the push and then both go after me and it doesn't seem like that's happening.
Pedit: Wouldn't it be better if I checked fire's cop result to see his sanity?

Espeonage · Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm

Dv is just a weird niggle so probs not super keen on that, but I think it will shed good light on some clutch arguments that have happened like the four bet slots.

MariaR · Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:22 pm

I honestly haven't read a single DeasVail post so I have no words on that slot I just saw they voted me and I'm like "k"

Espeonage · Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:23 pm

In post 2519, MariaR wrote:The biggest selling point is Sho and Shepard don't seem like partners because if they were they'd fake the push and then both go after me and it doesn't seem like that's happening.
Pedit: Wouldn't it be better if I checked fire's cop result to see his sanity?

Don't we know his supposed sanity.

The issue isn't the validity of results, it's the choice of targets and the fact that he only revealed more about his role when pressured because of being batshit crazy.

MariaR · Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:01 pm

Vaxkiller · Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:02 pm

So we no lynched huh. Great