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[Ankamius]

Math

Outing the teammates was only suboptimal today, it was planned to happen since yesterday.

[Ankamius]

Can this pissing contest end

[zMuffinMan]

here's a challenge for anyone interested:

boil drixx's iso down to

actual attempts at scum hunting

and tell me what's town about it

[MathBlade]

Can this pissing contest end

Oh I want it to.

Drixx doesn’t play traditionally d1. He is more concerned with blocking and communication than reads day one.

I am sure I could poke out little prods.

With Drixx I can’t jusge him as myself I judge him as himself.

Look at the recently cancelled Varsoon game.

Town!Drixx had 0 read statements.

[MathBlade]

Math

Outing the teammates was only suboptimal today, it was planned to happen since yesterday.

At least that is close to a summary. Can you expand on this please? You were gonna do more yesterday I believe:

[zMuffinMan]

Drixx doesn’t play traditionally d1. He is more concerned with blocking and communication than reads day one

this is verifiably false but also not really relevant since he wasn't here d1

[zMuffinMan]

to be clear, i don't care about drixx's d1 (except insofar as i had him in a poe pool of scum and i thought his first post was bad)

he's not scum for a lack of content or anything d1. he's scum for his content (and lack of good content)

[MathBlade]

viewtopic.php?p=10029421#p10029421

Example from hydra buddy Cerb.

Drixx and Cerb just don’t do first day reads. It pissed me off all game.

So who do you think is scum with Drixx? Because right now I provided proof of my statement and as Ank said we are not having a pissing contest and we are not lynching Drixx.

[Ankamius]

My townread on muffin is gone now ftr

[MathBlade]

to be clear, i don't care about drixx's d1 (except insofar as i had him in a poe pool of scum and i thought his first post was bad)

he's not scum for a lack of content or anything d1. he's scum for his content (and lack of good content)

And I mentioned his good content and broke down why it was good content. Interact with the points or move on. We are not doing this.

Continue to spam and I will vote you and give 0 fucks to anything you say. If the setup fucking allowed it I would fake claim mason with Drixx. That is how sure I am he is town.

[MathBlade]

If I am wrong in my assessment of Drixx town I need to learn why. Especially since mafia is an associative game.

So please demonstrate how I fucked up.

It’s a major problem with mafiascum as a whole. Instead of helping we are destructive.

[MathBlade]

Or we move on.

Ank got where I should catch up or at least major events?

[Ankamius]

When I'm off work, Math

I'd start with 123456789 ISO though

[Ankamius]

There's some pretty interesting things in there

[zMuffinMan]

honestly, i don't really care about showing anyone why drixx is scum if they're unable to read his ISO and see it. maybe if i was invested in this game or cared about the outcome i might try, but i'm not and i don't

if you link me directly to whatever you're talking about, i'll respond to that and tell you why you're wrong, but i'm just not interested in getting into an argument about it atm so if you disagree, i don't care

[Ankamius]

Who's town, muffin

And this is legitimately an important question if you've been paying attention to what's been discussed today

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: My case

Everytime I try to get engagement on my reads, I get ignored and tell me to plug my nose. What specifically should I do? Ignore charismatic scum possibility is not the answer.

Can you clarify this?

Hi Drixx.

Everytime I tried to engage on numbers in a substantive way, I got attacked.

What I say about Numbers gets ignored except for 1 comment by worst.

Numbers is basically just parroting suspicions and not calling anyone town.

Got any thoughts please? Like I miss you. NAI miss you.

Drixx is like obvTown from this post alone

When I was being stupid/unclear in the hydra that was like his phrase.

Titus reads like gasping scum there

“Give me things so I can say other things that cause people to lose focus”

like you're literally lying about every part of my town meta to make your point go across. There are people here who have been playing with me recently and there are players here who played with me a year ago.

Nah, you're just too proud to admit your vulnerability when I tell it straight to your face. Oh well.

Like I got flaws too and you could lay back into me to ensure I pick town. We can hash it out. Or you can pretend that my criticisms of you are worthless pointless and everything that happens is a coincidence. I'm ok with either but I prefer being honest with you.

I'm just asking you to show me my vulnerability. I really want to work on it if it's real yet you bring an example that has nothing to do with you claimed about me.

I'm trying to. Your vulnerability is you don't scrutinize people being nice to you enough. That's it in a nutshell.

Now, lay into me. What should I watch out for? What's my blind spot?

[Normally, I would do this with Drixx/Cerb but...]

This went on for way too much. As someone who is friend to both of you:

FA: You literally gave an example of exactly what Titus is trying to say about you. Math got you to back off by treating you a certain way. That's a pattern for you. I didn't see anything from Titus where it was meant to have a go at you. It is good to know the things about yourself that you might otherwise overlook.

Titus: Basically everyone active in the game is telling you to stop with the focus on just one tiny aspect of the game. At the moment it's NAI to me, because town!you would pick at this particular scab (especially with some who are intentionally antagonizing you and keeping you focused on it) and scum!you would gladly take the cover others are providing. You don't really

need

anyone else to point out where you're hurting yourself and the game state.

And if you really do ... I'm here.

stop spamming the fucking thread with shit nobody cares about thanks

stop fucking quoting massive walls and writing 1 line responses

jesus fucking christ

This post makes it look like you don't actually want to be playing forum mafia. Like ... if you think content coming from a certain slot is worthless to you, then just scroll right on by. No need for this crap. This ends up making me wonder if you're just making posts like this for LAMIST or something.

i'm policy lynching the shit out of titus if i'm alive tomorrow

and i won't be moving my vote either

that's a fucking promise

That would be a really good way to get me (and probably others) to decide you need to eat rope. You cannot wind someone up and keep pushing them and then invoke policy lynch on them because they took your bait. It's dirty play.

titus, if you're town please talk about anything BUT the leader choice.

your leader choice was scum motivated and will likely be the main reason why you'll get lynched next gameday.

that you're even suggesting you were mostly a town motivated leadership is already outing behaviour.

your spat with FA is only clearing her further if you're scum, and tilting and antagonizing her if you're town.

This post feels like so much hedging from someone who is informed. Gut doesn't like.

I don't think we should spend the whole gameday dunking on titus though. it's annoying.

titus should not talk about leader stuff and be ignored when she does for obvious reasons.

if she is town we're gonna have 2 awful gamedays because of it. I have a hard time imagining anyone else getting lynched on d3.

This coming so soon after the prior post: all I'm seeing here is a narrative slip. How do you go from trying to reason with a person to get useful content and interactions with them (while repeatedly expressing the benefit of the doubt and suggesting you are willing to posit a town!Titus) to talking about them being so obviously scum that you're concerned the day will be taken up by people "dunking" on them.

Like ...

eight minutes

went by.

I have no idea how to get into this game lol.

Pick a spot. Start reading. Ask questions and make comments.

If you work it out lmk Mylo

See above.

yes, me complaining about you doing

absolutely nothing but

talking about the setup and me suggesting that it's stupid for someone like titus to have been elected due to a complete lack of co-ordination are things that are comparable

you're truly a spectacular player

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yes, me complaining about you doing absolutely nothing but talking about the setup and me suggesting that it's stupid for someone like titus to have been elected due to a complete lack of co-ordination are things that are comparable

you're truly a spectacular player

God you're bad. I mean keep saying I did nothing but speculate on setup, but talking setup to show why someone (Titus) is scum is not the same as "talking setup".

You TR'd me all yesterday, you bitched about setup talk while ignoring actual alignment posts I was making about people, and then today want to bitch about lack of coordination.

I had something else I wanted to say, but the pissing contest is too much of a turn off. Stahp it.

First off this post here confirms town!FA scum!Titus and town!Drixx

Here is why.

Scum Titus said that she was just being honest with FA. But she is okay with a dishonest representation being stuck in FA’s head. Town Titus doesn’t and wouldn’t stand up for that shit.

However Titus drastically oversimplified (assuming she is talking about me and not another Math — man it’s weird to read posts about you before you’re in the game all kinds of confusing) what happened in FA’s game. Furthermore assuming Titus said the flaw was I buddied FA I buddied everyone. There was no choice in the matter. If I didn’t keep up with who she doctored we lost. Having one player vigged day one and another almost copped and instead copping our traitor, we were in dire straits. I NEEDED FA. As it was we barely pulled out a revive to win against an award cop a masonizer and a 100% true cop along with other players in what turned to two against the world. Saying that was FA’s weakness when I was sweating bullets and posting literally 24 hours straight to also buddy BaeReed is inaccurate. Yes I exploited FA but it’s more I exploited situations and her predecessors crumb.

It was nothing FA did. It was the situation.

Now in regards to FA she asked for her vulnerability. She wants to be better. I don’t understand why without reading backwards but anger and emotion in general. You are a logical player don’t get me wrong but you can let emotions/friendship get in the way of asking the key questions

Picking on Shadowrun: How did I know you were the doctor? Why would a doctor and a jail keep exist in a setup? I was really nervous sending you that letter because if it didn’t work you would have instantly voted me. Hell the scum PT confirms my adrenaline rush.

I don’t see FA opening that floodgate if scum. It would lead to her potentially having a loss of control which is hella different than the mafia universe game where she was scum. For as much as FA displays emotions authentically as either alignment as scum she controls the conversation.

So ergo FA town

Drixx is town because of similar situation happening in Shadowrun Universe where two people were fighting. Instead of solving it he took my side some and buddied me. He could easily have done that but instead steered towards more constructive matters while still commenting on the pair as a whole.

Pedit if anyone is scum in the 1v1 it is MuffinMan. The reason being is that they if scum realized the tide was turning on Titus. I think he is right for calling out muffinman for the wrong reasons. If Muffinman is town then we learn that muffinman was genuine and just doesn’t know Drixx as well as I do. If muffinman is scum then it is a bus gone horribly wrong while trying to shade a competent player in Drixx (well except if Mastina is in the game then he has scum or scum or oh shit she is scum)

Tldr FA is Town Drixx is Town Titus is scum.

Stevens Universe*

who did you vote for leader drixx?

The sad part is that you probably think you have some kind of "gotcha!" here. Whom I voted for is self-evident. You shouldn't have to ask because you should already know.

+1

Zmuffinman is horribly inconsistent here.
If Titus is scum then Drixx almost certainly voted Titus. Asking here serves no purpose. It’s to attack Cerb but it doesn’t have an underlying desire to actually hear the answer and it isn’t a rhetorical question meant to make us think? It’s either “I am gonna tunnel Drixx” as scum or “I scumread Drixx so hard I am blind to reason” both of which I have done and am working on but this post by Muffin is bad.

[MathBlade]

There's some pretty interesting things in there

I plan on it later tonight or early tomorrow. Mainly just 22 players interactions + replacements is a lot for scum because of heat mapping.

[MathBlade]

With an events summary like
— FA leader here
— FA decides powers here
— Vote discussion over leader of FA or leader of Titus starts here
That type of shit is a lot easier to work with

Or like not even post numbers just something searchable so I can build it

[zMuffinMan]

titus and drixx likely aren't scum together. that's the only part you got right

drixx mediating something between two people he knows is the most neutral thing he could have done and also the easiest thing for a scum player to do to put themselves in someone's good books without actually writing anything town. people like mediators

(also, i dont believe titus was voted in by scum - my current theory is cerb voted her and she won by tiebreak because no one else accumulated more than 2 votes)

[MathBlade]

titus and drixx likely aren't scum together. that's the only part you got right

drixx mediating something between two people he knows is the most neutral thing he could have done and also the easiest thing for a scum player to do to put themselves in someone's good books without actually writing anything town. people like mediators

(also, i dont believe titus was voted in by scum - my current theory is cerb voted her and she won by tiebreak because no one else accumulated more than 2 votes)

Mediating is easy as scum. I have done so before. However that is an alternate theory for the post.

It also doesn’t address the first post where obvTown!Drixx post where he calls out Titus.

Are you “townreading” Titus right now? *there is a bit of laughter/sarcasm in this statement*

[MathBlade]

That alternate theory just doesn’t follow Drixx meta.

[MathBlade]

You said and I paraphrase quote “The only thing you got right is that Drixx and Titus aren’t scum together”

Talk to me about how this is Town Titus. Because I really can’t see that.

[zMuffinMan]

he didn't call out anything...

[MathBlade]

Everytime I try to get engagement on my reads, I get ignored and tell me to plug my nose. What specifically should I do? Ignore charismatic scum possibility is not the answer.

Can you clarify this?

Hi Drixx.

Everytime I tried to engage on numbers in a substantive way, I got attacked.

What I say about Numbers gets ignored except for 1 comment by worst.

Numbers is basically just parroting suspicions and not calling anyone town.

Got any thoughts please? Like I miss you. NAI miss you.

Drixx is like obvTown from this post alone

When I was being stupid/unclear in the hydra that was like his phrase.

Titus reads like gasping scum there

“Give me things so I can say other things that cause people to lose focus”

1212 — Can you clarify this? That is Drixx speak for “what the fuck you’re full of shit please go back and talk about it so I can help you”