Micro 813 - Game Over

[Antihero]

um... ok

well in this game, i would describe manatee's posting style as "barely posting at all and never posting content." i think his ONLY content over this 30 page game is "gut scumreading" me and saying that you're "pocketing" him

in the donner party game where he was town, i would describe manatee's posting style as "rarely posts, but actually posts content when he does". he posted about twice as frequently as he did here, he evaluated specific posts and made specific points, made reads lists, and even took a crack at making a case

i don't see much similar about the posting style between these two games

[GuiltyLion]

mafmen has
a) quicklynched korina
b) gone off the rails with his manateedude defense
c) has managed to take irrational positions that make no sense to anyone, not even to himself
d) is not putting effort in explaining is reads at all

also like, with this case

all those things suck and are anti-town, but none of them are scummy? like I don't see good reasons for town or scum to do them. but you are presenting them very firmly as if you are certain he's scum. there's paranoia missing

tbf

b is a good point and now that manatee's play here is clearly more resembling his supposed scum-meta and diverging from his play in the town game otter linked, it's looking less sucky and anti-town and more agenda-driven

i also think c is a good point and it indicates bad/unfortunate scum play on mafmen's part. like... it'd be sucky and anti-town if mafmen didn't KNOW his play in voting me was egregiously suboptimal from a town!him POV but that clearly wasn't the case

i would add "e) denying that scumhunting CAN happen in an arbitrary window of time" to oka's case

yeh, these are good points

and to be clear I def think it's good odds Maf is scum

but it's concerning that Oka doesn't seem worried

at all

an Oka/Maf/Manatee team almost feels like the best fit to me, but then I don't really see what Oka's path to winning there is or an explanation for his play

[OkaPoka]

do u want me to pretend to be worried when I'm not?

[GuiltyLion]

no, I just want you to be worried

[OkaPoka]

oh no guys have u considered that team might be guilty, oath, and otter? what if they have been playing us this entire time!!! wow guyz we might lose lets waste a couple more days discussion insane scenarios ! @! !#!

[GuiltyLion]

sorry for caring about winning the game dude

your snark is only making me not want to vote MafMen

[GuiltyLion]

-MafMen refuses to scumread Manatee beyond all logical explanation
-Manatee refuses to play and towntell beyond all logical explanation
-Oka drops an immediate unannounced L-1 after Antihero's L-2 vote in what looks like a nonchalant quickhammer attempt
-yet Maf/Man/Oka makes very little sense as a team

this game is dumb and if we lose I'm absolutely gonna be tilted at whoever is town in you three

[Antihero]

an Oka/Maf/Manatee team almost feels like the best fit to me, but then I don't really see what Oka's path to winning there is or an explanation for his play

as sad as it would be, i think it might be maf/manatee/oath and oath just got stuck w a shitty team

and as annoying as oka can be, he might be town

[GuiltyLion]

idk if I have to choose between town in Oath/Oka I'm choosing Oath as town

[Antihero]

-MafMen refuses to scumread Manatee beyond all logical explanation

that + the otter situation + the rigmarole of even GETTING scumreads to begin with is a level of derp that i think town!mafmen doesn't really possess

[OkaPoka]

what if we live in a world where both me and oath are town

[OkaPoka]

also i dont need to announce that im going to l1 someone i heavily scumread

[GuiltyLion]

if you and Oath are town then it's Otter/Manatee/Maf? How do you explain Otter's play today then?

you absolutely should say an L-1 is coming when there's potential game-ending quickhammers on the table

[OkaPoka]

mafmen is scum

if he gets quickhammer, good?

i dont think otter is the third, but who cares we only need two

if im wrong destroy me post game but mafmen has done nothing to convince me otherwise

[GuiltyLion]

like how does Otter go from this:

A.scum!Maf + scum!Invis = Maf conveniently shifts away from his partner
B.scum!Maf + town!Invis = Maf decides not to go after an easy lynch for some reason? Maybe for towncred, but staying off a townie lynch doesn't buy that much towncred anyway, especially when the townie in question is being scummy (and Maf even says so)
C.town!Maf + town!Invis = Maf is legit questioning his Invis read
D.town!Maf + scum!Invis = Maf is legit questioning his Invis read (but shouldn't be)

If Invis flips town scenario C makes more sense to me. If he flips scum I feel a bit better about A than D but it's not a lockdown.

to "lynching anyone other than Maf today is insane"

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Vote Count

MafMen - 2 - ManateeDude, OkaPoka
LuckyOtter - 1 - MafMen

Not Voting - GuiltyLion, Oath, LuckyOtter, Antihero

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-07-27 14:44:59)

[OkaPoka]

idk

ill reread lucky and reevaluate i guess

i just dont really care about lucky i guess because i think i have two scum on lockdown

[Antihero]

ok.... so the only plausible team i can come up w that doesn't involve mafmen is: oka, manatee, otter

[Antihero]

not implausible........

BUT that also means mafmen is just soooooooooo IMPOSSIBLY BAD

[LuckyOtter]

like how does Otter go from this:

A.scum!Maf + scum!Invis = Maf conveniently shifts away from his partner
B.scum!Maf + town!Invis = Maf decides not to go after an easy lynch for some reason? Maybe for towncred, but staying off a townie lynch doesn't buy that much towncred anyway, especially when the townie in question is being scummy (and Maf even says so)
C.town!Maf + town!Invis = Maf is legit questioning his Invis read
D.town!Maf + scum!Invis = Maf is legit questioning his Invis read (but shouldn't be)

If Invis flips town scenario C makes more sense to me. If he flips scum I feel a bit better about A than D but it's not a lockdown.

to "lynching anyone other than Maf today is insane"

Nice job taking those things out of context. How do I go from this quote to the second? I don't know, was there any major game-changing event that happened between those two things? Come on, man.

[GuiltyLion]

Invis flipped town and Manatee voted Maf?!? Which of those "game-changing events" fundamentally changed the logic of 412 ?

[GuiltyLion]

Like did you even read your own post that I quoted??

[GuiltyLion]

Egghhh

It's either Manatee Maf Oath or Manatee Otter Ima.

Nothing else really makes sense to me.

Should we lynch Manatee today

[MafMen]

um... ok

well in this game, i would describe manatee's posting style as "barely posting at all and never posting content." i think his ONLY content over this 30 page game is "gut scumreading" me and saying that you're "pocketing" him

in the donner party game where he was town, i would describe manatee's posting style as "rarely posts, but actually posts content when he does". he posted about twice as frequently as he did here, he evaluated specific posts and made specific points, made reads lists, and even took a crack at making a case

i don't see much similar about the posting style between these two games

lucky said the posting style is similar

no matter how bad scum is they dont make 4 posts in a game

thats just fucking retarded on so many levels
in the games ive played with him hes posted a lot more

its clear to see its a wim thing

[ManateeDude]

If its not clear its a wim thing you guys are impossibly unobservant.