Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[HeWhoSwims]

Anyway - don't we have a 5 person townblock here? At least people who are almost 100% town by roles? Me Vecna Hebi ank and Ank's partner? (assuming Hebi is town). that should help...

[MathBlade]

Anyway - don't we have a 5 person townblock here? At least people who are almost 100% town by roles? Me Vecna Hebi ank and Ank's partner? (assuming Hebi is town). that should help...

This is a Mastina game and an Alisae game.

Since when do they have 5 confirmed town?

[MathBlade]

And better yet how? Best case assuming no traitor is Hebi Vecna and HWS

[MathBlade]

And you’re assuming Ank is a mason.

I still maintain that she isn’t a mason.

[HeWhoSwims]

I mean if Definition copied stuff from the mason page on the wiki then... that seems fine to me?

[MathBlade]

I mean if Definition copied stuff from the mason page on the wiki then... that seems fine to me?

...Let’s assume Ank is a mason.

Claiming here accurately results in 5 “confirmed” town.

There are thirteen alive. It becomes simple math.

This means all the scum would be on 8 people.
This is when scum have done zilch wrong and have lynched a PR on day one and killed another on night one
And mislynched on day two.

Name a game where scum lose by fulfilling their wincon.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean if Definition copied stuff from the mason page on the wiki then... that seems fine to me?

...Let’s assume Ank is a mason.

Claiming here accurately results in 5 “confirmed” town.

There are thirteen alive. It becomes simple math.

This means all the scum would be on 8 people.
This is when scum have done zilch wrong and have lynched a PR on day one and killed another on night one
And mislynched on day two.

Name a game where scum lose by fulfilling their wincon.

Why are you saying this when the game could have gone differently? If scum get PoEd by innos, that's their fault.

[MathBlade]

Furthermore why isn’t hebichan dead if she is town?

I find it highly odd Mastina a person who hates “confirmed” town almost as much as Varsoon does that?

And if this was the case I would expect scum to be freaking out.

They just aren’t. This means the confirmed cage is likely fake.

[MathBlade]

I mean if Definition copied stuff from the mason page on the wiki then... that seems fine to me?

...Let’s assume Ank is a mason.

Claiming here accurately results in 5 “confirmed” town.

There are thirteen alive. It becomes simple math.

This means all the scum would be on 8 people.
This is when scum have done zilch wrong and have lynched a PR on day one and killed another on night one
And mislynched on day two.

Name a game where scum lose by fulfilling their wincon.

Why are you saying this when the game could have gone differently? If scum get PoEd by innos, that's their fault.

It could gone differently yes.
However Mastina and Alisae consider those scenarios.

If they get PoE’d by innos that is impossible in a mastina setup

[Nosferatu]

i literally dont believe masons until one flips

[MathBlade]

PoE’d by innos implied scum were doing something stupid. If don’t see any evidence of that or scum freaking out.

Therefore Ank isn’t a mason or the innos aren’t innos

[MathBlade]

i literally dont believe masons until one flips

+1 agreed

At which point if a mason flips, hebi becomes policy to validate the reads she had to confirm the innos.

[MathBlade]

That is assuming they are real “innos” but I just don’t think 5 innos is a thing right now.

[Nosferatu]

there are only 2 conf town, vecna and hws

[MathBlade]

there are only 2 conf town, vecna and hws

Assuming scum have a PT yes. If scum don’t have a PT there would be no confirmed town.

[MathBlade]

And before you ask, yes that is a thing. I have been scum in a game where scum have no PT. It would make sense with all the generate a PT bits at the start.

In general in that game then a given scum (dictated at start or rotation) makes the night kill and the other scum PMs the mod any input they have to be delivered to the other scum.

It’d also explain the lack of vote counts etc. Mastina would be overwhelmed on top of going through stuff.

[MathBlade]

@mastina/Jingle do scum have a PT?

<<< Answered in 4096. >>>

[Nosferatu]

you don't need to dumbtell math we get it you're town whatever

[MathBlade]

I am not dumbtelling or trying to do anything of the sort.

I genuinely think that it’s probable scum don’t have a PT. The hallmarks are all there. The same wifom from the game where I was scum is present with that exact scenario link incoming.

[MathBlade]

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=73980

Link where scum have no PT and look at who the mod was Jingle.
Who is the backup mod here Jingle.
Easiest way to balance “innos” make them fake.

I was a PT godfather.

[Nosferatu]

jingle didn't design this game though

[mastina]

@mastina/Jingle do scum have a PT?

<<< Any player with access to a private topic will know they have access to that private topic unambiguously; any player who is not informed about a private topic or is told about a topic yet lacks access to it (a fact they would be made aware of) does not have access to a private topic.

At least one malevolent non-town faction with more than one member exists in this game (as the game is not bastard). If a method of communication exists between them, they will be aware of this fact.

No public further information is available than that. >>>

[mastina]

Oh also.

[mastina]

You guys need another VC.

[mastina]

I've been editing in a few, but let's make a fresh one.